Proposal: Toughness to the Leafs

[Tripod]

How about combine the 2 and get a dman that also provides grit and toughness. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

I know he has been mentioned in many threads, but Gudas fits exactly this.

 

[Dirk316]

The Leafs don't need new players for toughness. Take a look at what Detroit has done this year so far. Their players are playing tougher, sticking up for one another and overall playing with grit. Albeit it seemed like it took quite a few years for this group of guys to start playing like this, but it can be done. I'm not talking about players like Abdelkader or Witkowski either. Players like Larkin and Mantha are showing grit now as well.

Hahaha

 

[AngelDuck]

The Leafs don't need new players for toughness. Take a look at what Detroit has done this year so far. Their players are playing tougher, sticking up for one another and overall playing with grit. Albeit it seemed like it took quite a few years for this group of guys to start playing like this, but it can be done. I'm not talking about players like Abdelkader or Witkowski either. Players like Larkin and Mantha are showing grit now as well.

Lol wait til you get to the playoffs and Marner, Nylander, Kapanen get run over again with no response

 

[indigobuffalo]

We’ll settle for mental toughness for our fan base if anyone can spare it.

 

[LarKing]

Can I interest you in a slightly used Jonathon Ericsson? Great at clearing nets and can move the puck fairly well. Just needs a speedy partner with him.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Leafs should be targeting AP. The obvious comparable is the McDonagh trade.

McDonagh + Miller

For

Namestnikov Hajek Howden 1st + 2nd

So cancel out Miller for Namestnikov + Hajek(small add)

Howden + 1st + 2nd for McDonagh.

 

[Clayonator]

Sounds like you want Mark Borowiecki.

 

[Canuck Luck]

How about combine the 2 and get a dman that also provides grit and toughness. Kill 2 birds with one stone.

I know he has been mentioned in many threads, but Gudas fits exactly this.

No no they don’t want him they want gudbranson. They don’t need some European import when a good ol’ Canadian boy could be had for the Mecca of Canada

 

[BBKers]

You probably need some spare parts for a long run. Adam McQuaid at the TDL for a 3rd round pick sounds about right

 

[MagicalRazor]

The Leafs way of trying to fight back when getting pushed around is to just go the cheap and dirty route against other team's best players.

are you talking about Marchand?

 

[Tripod]

No no they don’t want him they want gudbranson. They don’t need some European import when a good ol’ Canadian boy could be had for the Mecca of Canada

Funny enough, on Tim & Sid, Kyper was asked about Guds but he said the Canucks want to keep him around to help protect their own kids.

 

[Hunter368]

Funny enough, on Tim & Sid, Kyper was asked about Guds but he said the Canucks want to keep him around to help protect their own kids.

Gudas is a very underrated D, people even mentioning Polak in the same breath need to give their heads a shake. Polak was a bottom pairing D, Gudas is a solid top 4 D. Simmonds does what he always does.....score goals and physical when needed. Simmonds is a UFA and Gudas has 1.5 years term.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

You probably need some spare parts for a long run. Adam McQuaid at the TDL for a 3rd round pick sounds about right

Is McQuaid good enough to play 14 minutes a night? Yes we can talk about tough players, but they have to NHL good enough or better than Ozhigakov.

 

[clunk]

Gudbranson for a late pick.

 

[bernmeister]

There are not many Simmonds types per OP request, guy who is not a pure enforcer but effective as one if needed.
Most don't have enuf talent to keep up w/today's NHL.
Some like Kreider are not enforcers per say but are enuf of a bull that it is not easy to play against, and in Kreider's case, that assumes he has not blown by with his speed.

Kreider is unavailable.
Fs Beleskey and McLeod, and Ds McQuaid and Smith are options from NY.
would like to see some future(s)/expiring contracts to improve cap
modest return ok for these
we would prefer promote from within

feel free to suggest price

 

[Nizdizzle]

Gudas is a very underrated D, people even mentioning Polak in the same breath need to give their heads a shake. Polak was a bottom pairing D, Gudas is a solid top 4 D. Simmonds does what he always does.....score goals and physical when needed. Simmonds is a UFA and Gudas has 1.5 years term.

They were talking about the other Guds (Gudbranson).

 

[zeke]

yeah what the leafs need is more Martins and Polaks.

leafs fans are insane.

 

[zeke]

Gudas is a very underrated D, people even mentioning Polak in the same breath need to give their heads a shake. Polak was a bottom pairing D, Gudas is a solid top 4 D. Simmonds does what he always does.....score goals and physical when needed. Simmonds is a UFA and Gudas has 1.5 years term.

Gudas is a borderline top-4 at best.

 

[Paris in Flames]

A package of Simmonds + Gudas to Toronto actually makes too much sense from my perspective. Fills the Leafs biggest needs without huge contracts coming back and Simmonds not even on the books next season. Ideally you look to keep him but that's likely not feasible but he can definitely provide a lot of help down the stretch. Just not sure what the return ask would be.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Leafs need a 3rd/4th line energy player who can skate and hit. And potentially drop the gloves if need be. (Ennis Replacement)

Nick Ritchie
Miles Wood
Kyle Clifford
Marcus Foligno
Lawson Crouse
Etc...

Are some names that come to mind.

Leafs also need a bruiser on the back end (Oziganov Replacement)

Robert Bortuzzo
Radko Gudas
Adam McQuaid
Eric Gubrandson
etc...

Are some players that come to mind.

Any of those players available?

You can absolutely have Crouse, but he won't fight, does hit, but not overly.

Not sure about that scoring thing yet either.

We need scoring, so the only people I'd really be interested in are probably considered untouchable. Kapanen and Johnson mostly, but I'd take Brown. I'd take Kadri but that seems like the antithesis of what this trade is for.

Johnson and Marleau for Crouse + something small if the situation is that Marleau retires next year?

 

[ER89]

Lol wait til you get to the playoffs and Marner, Nylander, Kapanen get run over again with no response

They never got run over in the prior two years. "Lol". Why bother posting if you don't know the topic....at all.

 

[TakeTheBody]

Can I interest you in a slightly used Jonathon Ericsson? Great at clearing nets and can move the puck fairly well. Just needs a speedy partner with him.

That's what Holland thought when he signed him to that terrible contract. You've watched Ericsson long enough to know that was a major mis-step by Holland. The Leafs have a long summer ahead of them cap wise last thing we need is Ericsson. Sorry.

 

[justafan22]

A package of Simmonds + Gudas to Toronto actually makes too much sense from my perspective. Fills the Leafs biggest needs without huge contracts coming back and Simmonds not even on the books next season. Ideally you look to keep him but that's likely not feasible but he can definitely provide a lot of help down the stretch. Just not sure what the return ask would be.

It does. It's the poor man's McDonagh/Miller from last year.

 

[Liferleafer]

Gudbranson for a late pick.

4 million for him is a bit much in my opinion.

 

[Ciao]

Nm

You can absolutely have Crouse, but he won't fight, does hit, but not overly.

Not sure about that scoring thing yet either.

We need scoring, so the only people I'd really be interested in are probably considered untouchable. Kapanen and Johnson mostly, but I'd take Brown. I'd take Kadri but that seems like the antithesis of what this trade is for.

Johnson and Marleau for Crouse + something small if the situation is that Marleau retires next year?

NMC