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Tortorella: "This falls on me. I’m not really interested in learning how to coach in this type of season"

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Honesty is only noteworthy if it's insightful. I give him no credit for this answer.
RoyIsALegend said:
66 year old coach not interested in coaching a team going through a rebuild with inevitable growing pains.
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Gizmo Tkachuk said:
He's not interested in trying to coach a bottom-feeder playing spoiler in the last 15 games of the season. Sorry John, but that's the team you have right now.
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HockeyVirus said:
You are being paid millions of dollars to be the coach of the team. If you don't have interest in doing what is required which is trying to get the most out of the roster regardless of the standings and develop young players, you need to resign.

Imagine being put on a project at work and in the 11th hour saying "I have no interest in this topic" [after doing a terrible job].
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^This about sums it up.
 
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If he was any sort of man he would just quit on his team and walk out like PoMo!

And win a Cup the following year, but that's what a real man would do; no pressure.
 
FlyguyOX said:
The kids are much better than when he started. He just has players with low ceilings to work with. The team needs more high end prospects.

These players are all better:
Zamula
Poehling
Drysdale
Tippett
Brink
Foerster
Cates
Sanheim
TK
Michkov
York

The problem is almost all should be middle six players or #3/#4 D-man.

The torts narratives are so wild on this site. The haters say all these players improved DESPITE torts, which is just nonsense. Sanheim used to be soft as charmin, constantly outmuscled, constantly falling on his ass.
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What the f***?

Zamula sucks.

Poehling is a 26-year-old 4th liner playing 3rd line minutes and scoring at a bad 3rd line rate.

Drysdale has looked good for the last couple months.

Tippett has fallen off a cliff.

Brink has only played 10 NHL games for any other coach, how is he "better"?

Foerster: ditto Brink.

Cates: ditto Foerster and Brink on NHL background and ditto Poehling on production.

Sanheim has always been a pretty good #3, but he gets 1D minutes on the Flyers. And even still, his offense has completely evaporated!

TK has had some of the best offensive stretches of his career under Torts, but absolutely died in the last 30 games of both of the last two seasons.

Michkov: ditto Foerster, Brink, and Cates.

York: ditto Foerster, Brink, Cates, and Michkov. Best defenseman on the Flyers, by the way, yet Coach "I can't stand losing" keeps benching him.

Meanwhile they traded off Farabee and Frost, who were demonstrably worse players in year 3 of Torts than in years 1 or 2--just like Tippett.

The only real player success stories there are Drysdale in a very small sample and Konecny (but only from October through December each season). You're otherwise listing guys who either had no prior NHL resume to compare to; are benefitting slightly from playing above their role (which you yourself acknowledged); or have stagnated or outright regressed.

In fact, Foerster came into the NHL looking like an absolute sniping demon who tore off 3 sick goals and 4 assists in his first 8 games. Torts gets lauded for turning him into an elite stickchecker and puckchaser, but that's all he does now. He's a 35-point player who would likely be a 50-point player in an organization that focused on developing his offense and creating looks for its shooters, rather than trying to turn them all into ubergrinders.

I would never say players improved "despite" Torts because very, very few players have improved at all. Their stats and the Flyers' place in the standings support that.
 
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FlyguyOX said:
The kids are much better than when he started. He just has players with low ceilings to work with. The team needs more high end prospects.

These players are all better:
Zamula
Poehling
Drysdale
Tippett
Brink
Foerster
Cates
Sanheim
TK
Michkov
York

The problem is almost all should be middle six players or #3/#4 D-man.

The torts narratives are so wild on this site. The haters say all these players improved DESPITE torts, which is just nonsense. Sanheim used to be soft as charmin, constantly outmuscled, constantly falling on his ass.
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You are completely out of touch.
 
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One of a very few coaches who has two Jack Adams and has won a Cup.

Doesn't matter when those happened, but they did. 3 achievements most coaches will never get to see in their career.

Someone with that resume has earned the right to be a head coach in this league, and anyone suggesting the group he has now is high caliber or he shouldn't be honest, maybe needs to take a step back.

Torts is someone people love to hate no matter what. Nothing he will ever do is good enough. It's a shame.
 
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PhysicalGraffiti said:
One of a very few coaches who has two Jack Adams and has won a Cup.

Doesn't matter when those happened, but they did. 3 achievements most coaches will never get to see in their career.

Someone with that resume has earned the right to be a head coach in this league, and anyone suggesting the group he has now is high caliber or he shouldn't be honest, maybe needs to take a step back.

Torts is someone people love to hate no matter what. Nothing he will ever do is good enough. It's a shame.
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In certain scenarios at a certain time, he was an effective coach. He is not in that scenario and the time has passed, and his failure to adjust has rendered his once-forgivable gruffness and old school tactics much more corrosive.
 
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PhysicalGraffiti said:
One of a very few coaches who has two Jack Adams
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Well the Jack Adams has lost a lot of value the last 15 years in my opinion. Since more often than not people just vote for "improved team" compared to last season even over coaches who coach the top teams in the league.

This year looks to be fairly normal though, as Spencer Carbery is looking to probably win it.
 
He’s not the right coach for a rebuilding team, and he knows it; that’s how I read this. I’ve always thought, if you give Torts talent, he will maximize said talent.
 
BelovedIsles said:
He’s not the right coach for a rebuilding team, and he knows it; that’s how I read this. I’ve always thought, if you give Torts talent, he will maximize said talent.
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Teams with talented rosters seem to have no interest in hiring him. Last time was Vancouver over a decade ago and he lasted a single playoff-less season. If anything, his teams with expectations of winning have underachieved since 2004.

Since then only teams in disarray, Columbus and Philly, have given him a chance. Next stop is Buffalo, IMO.

I think he could play a role as a coach who comes into bad situations to start moving things the right way. His name does hold weight especially to younger players. I don’t think his ego/self importance will allow him to accept that is what he is, so his shelf life is very short.
 
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SomeDude said:
Teams with talented rosters seem to have no interest in hiring him. Last time was Vancouver over a decade ago and he lasted a single playoff-less season. If anything, his teams with expectations of winning have underachieved since 2004.

Since then only teams in disarray, Columbus and Philly, have given him a chance. Next stop is Buffalo, IMO.

I think he could play a role as a coach who comes into bad situations to start moving things the right way. His name does hold weight especially to younger players. I don’t think his ego/self importance will allow him to accept that is what he is, so his shelf life is very short.
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I think he’s a good coach; give him a good roster and they’ll make some noise. JMO.
 
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