Proposal: Toronto/Tampa Bay

[belkemi1]

To Toronto:
Ryan Callahan

To Tampa Bay:
Frederik Gauthier

Toronto gets some valuable experience and leadership to a young team. Callahan gets a chance to rebound if healthy and could still contribute in a new environment.

Tampa gets some more cap space and Callahan may not have a spot in this lineup. They get at prospect who could develop to a solid, cheap third/fourth-line center.

(I don't watch NHL games regularly so cut me some slack if this deal is horrendous).

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[loyaltotheend]

To Toronto:
Ryan Callahan

To Tampa Bay:
Frederik Gauthier

Toronto gets some valuable experience and leadership to a young team. Callahan gets a chance to rebound if healthy and could still contribute in a new environment.

Tampa gets some more cap space and Callahan may not have a spot in this lineup. They get at prospect who could develop to a solid, cheap third/fourth-line center.

(I don't watch NHL games regularly so cut me some slack if this deal is horrendous).

As a leaf fan I wouldn't do it, no chance. I think you're going to get the same reply from everyone else, too.
Would rather hang on to Freddy and see if he can become the 4th line faceoff/defence specialist we're hoping for.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Callahan has somewhere between negative value, no value and tiny value. Gauthier has small value. Either way, Leafs can't take over $5 million in salary without sending salary back. Most teams can't.

Also, if Callahan's contract has a clause forcing the team that owns him to protect him in the upcoming expansion draft, the Leafs will prefer to protect Holland or Leipsic or Rychel instead. Or even moreso guys like Bozak, Martin and Leivo if we choose to protect four defenseman.

 

[Halla]

yeah this is pretty bad. Gauthier will be the #3-#4C as early as next year and really impressed in the preseason.

Callahan has an anchor of a contract (5.8x4 more years) with a NMC,
and his production last year was more in line with a player making half that.
leafs would need a top prospect and high pick to consider taking callahan, even then they probably still pass. too much pay, too much term

 

[LeafGrief]

Callahan is signed for $5.8million until 2021. There is no conceivable world in which you are getting a player on an ELC in a 1 for 1 exchange. That's $29million in real money to be paid out.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

No way. Leafs have no space for this, and the value's off anyway.

 

[TOGuy14]

To Toronto:
Ryan Callahan

To Tampa Bay:
Frederik Gauthier

Toronto gets some valuable experience and leadership to a young team. Callahan gets a chance to rebound if healthy and could still contribute in a new environment.

Tampa gets some more cap space and Callahan may not have a spot in this lineup. They get at prospect who could develop to a solid, cheap third/fourth-line center.

(I don't watch NHL games regularly so cut me some slack if this deal is horrendous).

Toronto isn't in the business of helping divisional rivals by taking their cap dumps

No chance we do this trade

 

[Kamiccolo]

Gauthier can be a solid #4 C in the NHL, but lacks offense to do anything more. Losing him is not a big deal with the Leafs depth.

The issue is adding a cap dump for no reason when our youth will need new deals in a few years, and it's a position we are already stacked at.

Makes no sense from the Leafs, they pass.

 

[PensandCaps]

To Toronto:
Ryan Callahan

To Tampa Bay:
Frederik Gauthier

Toronto gets some valuable experience and leadership to a young team. Callahan gets a chance to rebound if healthy and could still contribute in a new environment.

Tampa gets some more cap space and Callahan may not have a spot in this lineup. They get at prospect who could develop to a solid, cheap third/fourth-line center.

(I don't watch NHL games regularly so cut me some slack if this deal is horrendous).

leadership mumbo jumbo means nothing. awful for toronto

 

[gamer1035]

First let me state that Gauthier has next to no value.


After getting the call for this trade proposal, Lou laughs and hangs up.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Take on that anchor of a contract? Lupul,Greening and Laich are enough for me, thanks. The Leafs are gonna need cap space in a few years to sign the kids. We can't continue taking on bad contracts with term.

 

[tjs*]

When I saw the title I was expecting the proposal to be awful, but I was surprised to find that it was awful for the Leafs. Yeah, no way they do that even if Callahan would waive his NMC to go to Toronto, which he wouldn't.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

I'd love to!

Though I get the impression Callahan isn't going anywhere until this season plays out.

 

[Brock Radunske]

To Toronto:
Ryan Callahan

To Tampa Bay:
Frederik Gauthier

Toronto gets some valuable experience and leadership to a young team. Callahan gets a chance to rebound if healthy and could still contribute in a new environment.

Tampa gets some more cap space and Callahan may not have a spot in this lineup. They get at prospect who could develop to a solid, cheap third/fourth-line center.

(I don't watch NHL games regularly so cut me some slack if this deal is horrendous).

If Tampa wants to shed Callahan's contract, be prepared to retain and/or add your top prospect.

 

[TML1967]

As per usual, any trade is possible with the right additions and subtractions.

5.8 million is a non-starter. He is good defensively (or was before last year) and can play a 3C roll if he gets back to form. If that cap hit cant close to if not at 3 million, its a non starter. The Leafs dont have any long-term contracts that we need to move.

If this trade is to happen, I think the Leafs look to make it bigger by adding someone with real value who can help Tampa in the short term.

Tyler Bozak and Josh Leivo for Callahan @5 million ++

Id do it looking at the addition of Slater Koekkoek + Johnathan MacLeod +Dennis Yan.

Bozak is better than Callahan right now, is cheaper, and has a shorter contract.
Leivo is farther ahead of Yan, but isnt waiver elligible. Yan looks to be a mid 6 F.
Koekkoek and MacLeod are two interesting prospects, but neither are world beaters. One LHD and one RHD, with Koekkoek being farther ahead in development, and MaLeod looking like a possible #4 if he pans out.

 

[Menzinger]

While I think Gauthier will be a total bust, don't have much interest in taking on Callahans cap hit without a sweetener.

 

[Randy Randerson]

If Tampa wants to shed Callahan's contract, be prepared to retain and/or add your top prospect.

would have been ideal if this deal had been tabled last year during the Drouin holdout

 

[mashedpotato]

If I were TB, I'd want to get rid of Callahan's contract as well but doubtful Toronto bite; this is just helping TB out of a jam with no benefit to Toronto.

Outside of Callahan's experience, I can't imagine him fitting in the youth, speed, skill movement that Toronto is mired in.

 

[TheCLAM]

If I were TB, I'd want to get rid of Callahan's contract as well but doubtful Toronto bite; this is just helping TB out of a jam with no benefit to Toronto.

Outside of Callahan's experience, I can't imagine him fitting in the youth, speed, skill movement that Toronto is mired in.

Throw in Drouin to off-set Callahan.

Not happening - dumb proposal.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Toronto doesn't say no, it says hell no.

 

[tjs*]

As per usual, any trade is possible with the right additions and subtractions.

5.8 million is a non-starter. He is good defensively (or was before last year) and can play a 3C roll if he gets back to form. If that cap hit cant close to if not at 3 million, its a non starter. The Leafs dont have any long-term contracts that we need to move.

If this trade is to happen, I think the Leafs look to make it bigger by adding someone with real value who can help Tampa in the short term.

Tyler Bozak and Josh Leivo for Callahan @5 million ++

Id do it looking at the addition of Slater Koekkoek + Johnathan MacLeod +Dennis Yan.

Bozak is better than Callahan right now, is cheaper, and has a shorter contract.
Leivo is farther ahead of Yan, but isnt waiver elligible. Yan looks to be a mid 6 F.
Koekkoek and MacLeod are two interesting prospects, but neither are world beaters. One LHD and one RHD, with Koekkoek being farther ahead in development, and MaLeod looking like a possible #4 if he pans out.

Nah, we'd be better off buying Callahan out and keeping our prospects (especially Koekkoek.) Bozak's buyout is worse than Callahan's for 2017 so that swap actually makes our cap situation worse. The OP was ridiculous but there's no point in throwing out an offer that is ridiculous in the opposite direction.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

I mean, I've seen weird moves like this happen but I can't see the Leafs doing it, we would do it for sure though

 

[Leafs87]

Nice try

 

[Canada4Gold]

Yes.





Just kidding, no!

 

[Sky04]

lets add in Nesterov for the leafs too to make it even worse for them