Proposal: Toronto-Seattle

[Hockey 4 Life]

To
Leafs
Soucy
Driedger

To
Seattle
2022 1st
2022 2nd
2024 2nd
Dermott
Mrazek

Seattle gets a first and two seconds a cost controlled 5 d who is still young and plays both sides and Mrazek who admittedly hasn't been good this season.

Toronto shores up there d and gets a younger goalie who has been good every other year except for this year. Cap is close to equal.
Who says no ?

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[RainyCityHockey]

Sure, as a Seattle fan I'd say why not.

Though, in before Leafs fans tell you how much they dislike it.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Sure, as a Seattle fan I'd say why not.

Though, in before Leafs fans tell you how much they dislike it.

Well I'm also a leaf fan so ill take it in stride. Gotta give to get.

 

[Mersss]

To
Leafs
Soucy
Driedger

To
Seattle
2022 1st
2022 2nd
2024 2nd
Dermott
Mrazek

Seattle gets a first and two seconds a cost controlled 5 d who is still young and plays both sides and Mrazek who admittedly hasn't been good this season.

Toronto shores up there d and gets a younger goalie who has been good every other year except for this year. Cap is close to equal.
Who says no ?

Dermott isn't a #5 tho

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Dermott isn't a #5 tho

He really is though. Hes been good in his role this year.

 

[Mitch nylander]

That's an atrocious trade.

Why are we giving so much for a guy with worse save % than the goalies on our team who really hasn't proven he can be a number 1 guy. Soucy is good but he is nowhere near worth that value.

I'd rather trade for Fleury + a depth piece.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

That's an atrocious trade.

Why are we giving so much for a guy with worse save % than the goalies on our team who really hasn't proven he can be a number 1 guy. Soucy is good but he is nowhere near worth that value.

Driedgers numbers before this season have been fantastic. Behind our defense he would be great. Soucy adds size grit and shutdown ability to our blue line and can play both sides in case Muzzin doesn't return. Its a 1st and two seconds two fill our biggest holes for this year and next at the very least. I believe its more then fair.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Yea I know Leaf fans are fed up with their goaltending but I don't really see Driedger as the answer there. He's not any better than anything you already have imo

Soucy is a very nice player though

 

[Mrfenn92]

Seems solid. Maybe one second round pick to many.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

Yea I know Leaf fans are fed up with their goaltending but I don't really see Driedger as the answer there

Soucy is a very nice player though

I think Driedger behind a better team could be a starter and at 27 with this year and two more I think its worth the risk considering his previous season numbers.

 

[HuGo Sham]

as a habs fan i approve, which means it's not a good deal for the leafs

 

[Space Coyote]

The target should be MAF: A goalie with playoff experience but the question is will he come to Toronto.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

I think Driedger behind a better team could be a starter and at 27 with this year and two more I think its worth the risk considering his previous season numbers.

I get where you're coming from, but to me, Driedger is neither the most athletic guy nor the most technical, and a small sample size in a bit role (on a good team, no less) doesn't sell me on him at all.

 

[seanlinden]

I get the appeal of Carson Soucy, if you figure that Muzzin is out after this year; he & Sandin can be used interchangeably as 2nd pair defencemen. He'd also likely be an ideal partner for a Timothy Liljegren in the context of a 3rd pair guy.

I also get the appeal of Drieger; as I think he might be better than Mrazek, who obviously hasn't worked out here, and at worst, marginally cheaper.

But... to clear out our entire 2022 draft class (excl a 7th), to make these marginal / fit upgrades on the 3rd pair and backup goalie position, is nonsensical.

Don't get me wrong, if Seattle was willing to do Dermott & a 2nd for Soucy, I think that might be something worth considering if you figure that next year, the $2.75m to pay Soucy comes from not paying Holl/Muzzin, and go spend ~$4-5m on a right shot guy for the top 4.... although certainly a "rich" deal.

If Mrazek + a 2nd for Drieger is the other part of the deal, again, certainly worth considering.

I just don't see how or why the most valuable piece in the deal (the 1st) gets involved.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Leafs should definitely be able to get a better piece with that many picks changing hands.

Holl + 1st for Soucy + 4th. I don't think that's a goalie upgrade or enough of a cap dump to be worth moving assets for

 

[Space Coyote]

Is Driedger really much of a upgrade on Campbell? He'll be 28 soon and has had 30 odd decent games prior to this season.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I get that the Leafs need goaltending help but that's not the guy.

Although I'm not against adding Carson Soucy

 

[McJedi]

Seattle says yes.

 

[McJedi]

Leafs should definitely be able to get a better piece with that many picks changing hands.

Holl + 1st for Soucy + 4th. I don't think that's a goalie upgrade or enough of a cap dump to be worth moving assets for

Remove the 4th rounder and that’s a deal Seattle should consider. A cap dump and a 1st that probably conveys around 24th OA for Soucy.

 

[thusk]

You will need to explain how a 6th dman of one of the worst defensive should be an upgrade over holl.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I get that the Leafs need goaltending help but that's not the guy.

Although I'm not against adding Carson Soucy

 

[NiagaraKraken]

Sounds good to me lol.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

To
Leafs
Soucy
Driedger

To
Seattle
2022 1st
2022 2nd
2024 2nd
Dermott
Mrazek

Seattle gets a first and two seconds a cost controlled 5 d who is still young and plays both sides and Mrazek who admittedly hasn't been good this season.

Toronto shores up there d and gets a younger goalie who has been good every other year except for this year. Cap is close to equal.
Who says no ?

I would like see a value break down of this.

 

[Sweetpotato]

To
Leafs
Soucy
Driedger

To
Seattle
2022 1st
2022 2nd
2024 2nd
Dermott
Mrazek

Seattle gets a first and two seconds a cost controlled 5 d who is still young and plays both sides and Mrazek who admittedly hasn't been good this season.

Toronto shores up there d and gets a younger goalie who has been good every other year except for this year. Cap is close to equal.
Who says no ?

WAY too much

 

[mydnyte]

To
Leafs
Soucy
Driedger

To
Seattle
2022 1st
2022 2nd
2024 2nd
Dermott
Mrazek

Seattle gets a first and two seconds a cost controlled 5 d who is still young and plays both sides and Mrazek who admittedly hasn't been good this season.

Toronto shores up there d and gets a younger goalie who has been good every other year except for this year. Cap is close to equal.
Who says no ?

a lot to give up for a late blooming d-man and a goalie that couldnt take the reins as a starter, and having a sucky season