Rumor: Toronto, Nashville, Utah, NY Islanders teams with interest in Maxim Shabanov

MMC · 2024-10-07T17:37:58-0400

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843368467220799584

EXTRAS · 2024-10-07T17:42:17-0400

Can he void his KHL contract this year or is this for next season?

Brodeur · 2024-10-07T17:42:59-0400

Obligatory reminder that it will be a 1 year (two way) ELC if/when he signs this spring. Contract length is predefined by the CBA based on age.

TheBeastCoast · 2024-10-07T17:46:54-0400

Is he good? Should I care? Legit first time hearing the name.

SEALBound · 2024-10-07T17:50:19-0400

I might need additional scouting reports here but my first instinct is - but why?

Maxim Shabanov - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Maxim Shabanov, 2000-10-07 Chelyabinsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with Traktor Chelyabinsk. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

24yo, 5'8, 157lbs with okay KHL numbers.

Doesn't exactly scream NHL regular to me.

Rich Nixon · 2024-10-07T17:55:34-0400

SEALBound said:
I might need additional scouting reports here but my first instinct is - but why?

Maxim Shabanov - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Maxim Shabanov, 2000-10-07 Chelyabinsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with Traktor Chelyabinsk. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

24yo, 5'8, 157lbs with okay KHL numbers.

Doesn't exactly scream NHL regular to me.

By KHL scoring standards, his numbers are very good and so far this season he's over a PPG/top 5 in scoring.

joestevens29 · 2024-10-07T17:58:15-0400

SEALBound said:
I might need additional scouting reports here but my first instinct is - but why?

Maxim Shabanov - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Maxim Shabanov, 2000-10-07 Chelyabinsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with Traktor Chelyabinsk. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

24yo, 5'8, 157lbs with okay KHL numbers.

Doesn't exactly scream NHL regular to me.

Propped up by Rangers legend Kravtsov

TheGroceryStick · 2024-10-07T17:58:56-0400

Next breadman

Bagelman

Forsbergaura21 · 2024-10-07T18:04:36-0400

So can he sign in the nhl for this season?

SEALBound · 2024-10-07T18:04:38-0400

Rich Nixon said:
By KHL scoring standards, his numbers are very good and so far this season he's over a PPG/top 5 in scoring.

Nicolas Petan has the same number of points in one less game, for context's sake.

Petan potted a whopping 7g and 35pt in 170 NHL games. Just so we're clear.

MMC · 2024-10-07T18:06:48-0400

SEALBound said:
Nicolas Petan has the same number of points in one less game, for context's sake.

Petan potted a whopping 7g and 35pt in 170 NHL games. Just so we're clear.

5 and a half years older though

SEALBound · 2024-10-07T18:13:39-0400

MMC said:
5 and a half years older though

So? If he was 18-20, sure. 24? Less of a "benefit of the doubt"

MMC · 2024-10-07T18:16:16-0400

SEALBound said:
So? If he was 18-20, sure. 24? Less of a "benefit of the doubt"

The KHL is a pretty tough league, saying someone has to be 20 or under to be encouraged by their production there is pretty harsh. Obviously teams see something here

Brodeur · 2024-10-07T18:17:23-0400

Forsbergaura21 said:
So can he sign in the nhl for this season?

Unless he terminates his KHL deal, it'd be for 2025-26.

SEALBound said:
I might need additional scouting reports here but my first instinct is - but why?

Low risk, he'd have to sign a 1 year ELC. If he didn't pan out, it wouldn't really set the signing team back. Ie recent guys like Mikko Lehtonen or Anton Levtchi came and went. Not every guy is going to be a Panarin/Kuzmenko.

With undrafted free agents, it feels like there can be some misplaced expectations if there are multiple teams interested. Brian Burke termed it the free wallet. My analogy is if there was a new pizza place giving away free slices; Just because there's a long line doesn't necessarily mean that the pizza is great.

Forsbergaura21 · 2024-10-07T18:17:48-0400

MMC said:
The KHL is a pretty tough league, saying someone has to be 20 or under to be encouraged by their production there is pretty harsh. Obviously teams see something here

That’s correct. I believe Panarin was 23 when he transitioned to NHL. Putting up a point per game or more in KHL at 24 is not bad at all…

SEALBound · 2024-10-07T18:23:26-0400

MMC said:
The KHL is a pretty tough league, saying someone has to be 20 or under to be encouraged by their production there is pretty harsh. Obviously teams see something here

I mean, I get that. Mikhail Ilyin ran 0.5ppg as a 18yo and I was super stoked for that. But he's also 6'0, 180lbs, and 18yo.

This seems like looking at overage in the WHL or OHL that potted 90+ as a 22yo.

Not dogging the guy, I'm just saying, I don't get what the attraction is there. Does he have Kane/Datsyuk hands, McDavid speed, Lundqvist's good looks, BizNasty's podcast skills? Just wanted more info.

On The Prowl · 2024-10-07T18:23:55-0400

Havent seem him play, at that size he better be an amazing skater.

Rich Nixon · 2024-10-07T18:29:19-0400

SEALBound said:
Nicolas Petan has the same number of points in one less game, for context's sake.

Petan potted a whopping 7g and 35pt in 170 NHL games. Just so we're clear.

And? The KHL is a tough and weird league. Fringe NHLers often produce well over there. Because fringe NHLers are some of the best players in the world who...aren't currently in the NHL. So if a player is producing better than those guys, there's a chance that they themselves could be a fringe NHLer...or even an NHL regular!

Hence the reported interest.

A1LeafNation · 2024-10-07T18:31:33-0400

5'8 157lbs....leaves thread.

SEALBound · 2024-10-07T18:47:34-0400

Rich Nixon said:
And? The KHL is a tough and weird league. Fringe NHLers often produce well over there. Because fringe NHLers are some of the best players in the world who...aren't currently in the NHL. So if a player is producing better than those guys, there's a chance that they themselves could be a fringe NHLer...or even an NHL regular!

Hence the reported interest.

But I mean, he's not outproducing a fringe NHL'er...that was my point. He's got the same pts at Petan in 1 more game. Petan was a long-time NHL fringe player. I mean, I guess a guy can come over at 24yo+ and make it but also at 5'8 157lbs, I wince and question how likely it is.

To the point of - why bother?

Any of those teams could have claimed Lavoie, Poulin, Suzuki, ZAR, or Adam Gaudette and got a player with just as much impact.

mouser · 2024-10-07T19:11:41-0400

Brodeur said:
Unless he terminates his KHL deal, it'd be for 2025-26.

And the earliest he could sign for 2025-26 is March 1st 2025.

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