Pre-Game Talk: Toronto @ Montreal - Wednesday 7pm - SN

LaPlante94

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So he is known as a goal scorer but has been invisible his entire career? You make no sense.

He's a hard working grinding complimentary player who is good defensively.

Sounds like a good bottom 6 winger to me.

He's better on the forecheck too because he will get there in time.
He scored 21 in 30 games his last season in the AHL. He was invisible his entire NHL career until that hot stretch where he was only known for his goal scoring. Pretty simple to understand really.

Again, if he is so good at all that then he should've been able to easily make an impression during his pre season games. Instead he lost out and will have to earn his spot back when he gets his chance to play again which probably won't be too long.
 

Gary Nylund

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To be fair, I claimed over a period of years, they were the second best. It's a fact. No spin can change that.

But here are the years anyway.

2023/24 - 7th.
2022/23 - 2nd best
2021/22 - 1st
2020/21 - 16th
2019/20 - 6th
2018/19 - 8th
2017/18 - 2nd

Just for reference sake, as to where this started...


It was in response to this.

Marner and Rielly on the same PP unit, have been a top PP unit in the league for years. It was tops in the NHL last year, until the wheels fell off the bus when Marner got injured. It's been top two three times, and top ten three times. On aggregate, it's top two or three over an extended period of time. It's been a top two until, for the last three years... except for the last couple of months of last year. When you have a until that is first, or second, for something like 2.75 years... you don't blow it up, you tweak it to make sure it works all the time.

The top teams over that period are pretty consistent... it's been Edmonton, Tampa and Toronto dominating the top most of the time, and that is what you would guess.
The PP has always been good, during the regular season. I have no idea how much worse the numbers are for the playoffs, but my guess is that the drop off is substantial. But that fits with everything else on our team so could be that we're just cursed.
 
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Arzak

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According to NHL.com. From 2019/20 to 2022/23 combined results second best PP over that time. Include last year, its third best.


You can go back to 2015/16 to present, and we are third best over that period in time as well.

Simple facts to look up. Cheers.


yeah, you said we are top 2 PP for years.

Turned out, you meant except the last year when we were 7th? And except in playoffs? And only if you check 19-22 seasons?

Yeah, if we ignore playoffs and ignore the last year and start with 2019, because we are 16th the year before ...


Not to mention all this bizarre gymnastic/aggregating to point out to Mitch as the reason why we have great PP? :D

Matthews is the one making sure we are not 16th each year. And even with that in mind, the last two playoffs and last regular season - meaning the last TWO YEARS OF HOCKEY. We are nowhere near top2 PP.


Simple facts. Cheers
 

bax

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I think I'll probably start embracing the fact that Patches is a Leaf when he's booed tonight in Montreal. Assuming 8pm puck drop roughly after the ceremony

6-1 Leafs
 
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