Proposal: Toronto-Colorado

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Byram
Burakovsky
Johnson

To Colorado-
Marner
Rielly
Holl

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[TheRarestDangles]

I'd want a 1st from Toronto to match Jack Johnson.

 

[Cherry Picker]

To Toronto-
Byram
Burakovsky
Johnson

To Colorado-
Marner
Rielly
Holl

As a Leaf fan this is gross

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Does Toronto get both Johnsons?

 

[Cypher]

And how do the Avs add this extra $6 million dollars worth of players?

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Hard pass

 

[Newusername]

So?

Byram (.925)
Bura (4.9)
J. Johnson (.750)

for

Reilly @ 50% (2.5)
Marner @ 50% (5.4)
Holl @ 50% (1.0)

I mean that’s the only way it works for the avs?

 

[nightonthesun]

Pukity puke. Let's destroy our cap structure and throw away a fast-growing d prospect for proven playoff performer Mitchell Marner, sure, why not

 

[Perratrooper]

Pass from the Avs and probably Toronto too.

 

[izzy]

avs cant really do this

 

[Groo]

Does Toronto get both Johnsons?

And then some

 

[Linds]

Rielly makes absolutely zero sense for the Avs. Also avs are not trading Byram who has been their best player this season and just played over 26 minutes as a rookie d man on an ELC

 

[Killer Orcas]

Don't see Avs adding Marner's cap hit to their team. When they have Makar, Rantanen and soon to sign Mack taking up a good chunk of the cap themselves. Trading Byram on ELC would be silly to if he's as good as some think. Reilly is UFA to be his value is not as high in a package as it would be at trade deadline on his own.

 

[Cogburn]

Slow start in Toronto, eh? 4 combined assists in 12 combined games for Marner and Rielly? Oof. At least Rielly is UFA, if this slow start doesn't correct itself.

No one can afford Marner though. The Ducks, Sens, Sabres, Blue Jackets and Red Wings are the only teams with the cap space, and I'm sure each of them has an internal cap. Plus that bonus structure...yikes. League minimum with the rest of his, averaged, cap hit of 10.9 in signing bonuses? That isn't a contract everyone can take on, even if Marner's slow start is followed up by to tier Marner for the rest of the year.

Bryam aside, that isn't a stellar return or anything, but I think Toronto fans are taking for granted their teams ability to swallow salary like it's nothing.

 

[Ararana]

The Avs aren’t trading Byram.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

this guy

 

[Super Hans]

Regardless of the lack of thought put into this proposal, not a fan of paying $11m for a 2RW, especially at the cost of a top 4 D on ELC.

 

[howboutahug]

Meh, Avs aren't moving Byram.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Slow start in Toronto, eh? 4 combined assists in 12 combined games for Marner and Rielly? Oof. At least Rielly is UFA, if this slow start doesn't correct itself.

No one can afford Marner though. The Ducks, Sens, Sabres, Blue Jackets and Red Wings are the only teams with the cap space, and I'm sure each of them has an internal cap. Plus that bonus structure...yikes. League minimum with the rest of his, averaged, cap hit of 10.9 in signing bonuses? That isn't a contract everyone can take on, even if Marner's slow start is followed up by to tier Marner for the rest of the year.

Bryam aside, that isn't a stellar return or anything, but I think Toronto fans are taking for granted their teams ability to swallow salary like it's nothing.

Matthews having a slow start, and Marner's #'s are down? hmmmm... coincidence?

 

[McJedi]

To Toronto-
Byram
Burakovsky
Johnson

To Colorado-
Marner
Rielly
Holl

That is so awful for the Avs. Byram is untouchable. he’s been the Avs best defender by a wide margin so far. Makar playing hurt, but still. Byram is already a top pair LHD at age 20. He doesn’t even turn 21 until next summer. You could statistically make the case Byram is the Avs best player so far this season.

And No one can afford Marner’s bad contract anyway. Certainly not the Avs.

Toronto destroys the Avs in this deal. They get better and younger. Move off a bad contract to get an amazing one in Byram. Replace a top line W playing poorly with a top pair LhD that’s 20 and on an ELC.
Sakic tells Dubas to F off.

 

[PocketNines]

He offered us Marner, Reilly and Engvall for Kyrou, Tarasenko, 2022 1st, Bortuzzo which similarly featured no thought whatsoever put into the other team and its cap. It's just a Toronto centric world. I mean god help everyone if they ever win a playoff round, can you imagine the valuations?

 

[McJedi]

As a Leaf fan this is gross

What? Dubas would make that deal in an instant. It properly resets your team balance and gets you out of a bad contract on Marner. Frees up a ton of cap space.

TML is probably losing Reilly to UFA next summer for nothing. And Holl is a nobody.

this author was so lazy, he didn’t even specify which Johnson the Avs are trading. Erik Johnson is playing 20 minutes a game in a top 4 role right now. He’d be top pair with Byram for Toronto.

Toronto gets two top 4 (Byram top pair) defenders and a 2nd line wing in this atrocious proposal. Avs get an way overpaid top line wing. A top 4 D they don’t need hitting UFA and a nobody.

here is a counter.

Nylander, Robertson and a 3rd for Girard and Maltsev.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To Toronto-
Byram
Burakovsky
Johnson

To Colorado-
Marner
Rielly
Holl

One would imagine that if Byram is dealt Sakic would want an extension in place with Morgan Rielly, And that's probably 7x7 very doubtful Colorado can afford Marner at nearly $11,000,000 per plus $7,000,000 for Rielly and another $11,000,000 per for Nate MacKinnon within 2 years or so.

 

[John Mandalorian]

One would imagine that if Byram is dealt Sakic would want an extension in place with Morgan Rielly, And that's probably 7x7 very doubtful Colorado can afford Marner at nearly $11,000,000 per plus $7,000,000 for Rielly and another $11,000,000 per for Nate MacKinnon within 2 years or so.

The Avs aren't trading for Marner or Rielly. The Avs would have to get a much better return than this if they're trading Byram.

 

[Commander Clueless]

This trade makes no sense for Colorado and is a weird start to Toronto's rebuild, which is apparently what we're going for if we're making trades like this.

Slow start in Toronto, eh? 4 combined assists in 12 combined games for Marner and Rielly? Oof. At least Rielly is UFA, if this slow start doesn't correct itself.

I mean morale is pretty low over here in Leafland for a variety of reasons but I don't think we're at the point where, bad season or not, losing your top defenseman for nothing can be considered a silver lining....at least not yet. Give it a few weeks.