Player Discussion Torey Krug VI

[member 96824]

Ahh Torey reads my posts I seeee

 

[DiggityDog]

Torey’s group ask could very well be what the Hutcheon’s tweet suggests, but that’s what you do in negotiating you always come in high.

He will definitely get more on the open market, no question, but there is a fair deal that can be had here. If Krug says he wants to be here and is willing to take less than I believe him, but if the deal doesn’t come together in 5 minutes it doesn’t make him a liar. These things take time.

I will admit might “good feeling” has lessened a bit over time, but I still believe they will work it out

 

[Kazcram]

The problem with the whole NHL and paying Dmen is everyone just looks at point totals alone . We can look at other players and what they got and try and match the numbers but imo Krug is a 1 trick pony that's it . He doesn't kill penalties hes small , slow ( quick but slow ) , not strong , and when it counts which is in the PO his tricks don't work because the pp chances are always lower. I've made posts here before outlining the stats compared to Carlo and Mcavoy and considering Krugs PP time his O zone starts hes pretty mediocre. He wants to be paid #1 D money not even being close to a number 1 dman and that's the problem . Bruins cannot pay him 7 mil + especially that in 2 years Chuckies deal will start at 7.3 min . I just dont think hes worth that much and if they do pay him we will be here in few years talking about him the way we have been about Backes

 

[22Brad Park]

Torey Krug Wants To ‘Find A Balance’ For Getting Paid, Playing For Winning Team

 

[Aussie Bruin]

One thing that may be playing a part in the pace and timing of the contract negotiations is the current situation the Bruins find themselves in. Once again they're a genuine Cup contender. Winning the Stanley is the ultimate ambition for every hockey player. Should Boston manage to lift the Cup this June, Krug will have achieved his major goal and it may become more attractive for him to spend the remainder of his career pocketing $8 mil a year skating around for some rubbish, low-pressure team.

If they come up short, then as long as it's in such a way that it still seems that they should have at least one shot left in the tank, then there is some extra incentive to re-sign with the Bruins, depending on which particular clubs are also interested in his services. So I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make a final decision, one way or the other, until after the season is over.

 

[BB88]

The problem with the whole NHL and paying Dmen is everyone just looks at point totals alone . We can look at other players and what they got and try and match the numbers but imo Krug is a 1 trick pony that's it . He doesn't kill penalties hes small , slow ( quick but slow ) , not strong , and when it counts which is in the PO his tricks don't work because the pp chances are always lower. I've made posts here before outlining the stats compared to Carlo and Mcavoy and considering Krugs PP time his O zone starts hes pretty mediocre. He wants to be paid #1 D money not even being close to a number 1 dman and that's the problem . Bruins cannot pay him 7 mil + especially that in 2 years Chuckies deal will start at 7.3 min . I just dont think hes worth that much and if they do pay him we will be here in few years talking about him the way we have been about Backes

10M+ is UFA #1D money.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

wait, people are actually buying that tweet?

an "insider" with no broken stories, no blue check mark and a tweet history that is just "x happened just now in the game"

 

[whatsbruin]

If Donnie can't get him to sign a reasonable offer, no one could. You can't complain about the contracts
Sweeney has inked the last few years.
If Krug just wants the money, he's gone. If he's willing to take a 1 to 2 million discount, he'll stay.
As far as Det goes, I know its his home state, but that team is a mess, and probably will not be good for at least 2 or 3 years
or longer. Does he want to waste his time there , just for the money ?

 

[LouJersey]

Torey may have to back track and delete that Kyrie tweet.

 

[LouJersey]

for me 6 years, 6.75 per...if not I have no issue with letting him walk.

 

[Dr Hook]

for me 6 years, 6.75 per...if not I have no issue with letting him walk.

That would be the outer limit, not the money, but the term. I don't like him at more than 5 years to be honest. If they want to do 6, you probably have to figure there is a lost season or two at the end of it. Worth it? I don't know, but if I am the Bruins and he wants more than 5 years and $7 mil + I let him go.

 

[member 96824]

for me 6 years, 6.75 per...if not I have no issue with letting him walk.

That’s kind of where I am too. If Team Torey countered with 7m on the table, I probably grit the teeth and take it in the final hour.

It’s all nothing against Torey. No one has worked harder to earn this opportunity.

 

[Sheppy]

I think Krug signs for under 7.

I don't think he will take more than Bergeron/Marchand/Pastrnak, but at the same time, he WILL get 7.5+ on the open market.

 

[DKH]

I think Krug signs for under 7.

I don't think he will take more than Bergeron/Marchand/Pastrnak, but at the same time, he WILL get 7.5+ on the open market.

and a 10% discount of $7.5 M is $750,000 which sets his salary at $6.75 M

He gets 6 years
He plays for team he wants to in city he wants to raise family
He gets a NMC and knows this is where he will be

term, location, security

that would be my offer if not, bummer, but the Bruins have a stable of young left shots coming in at cheap money for now and will be fine

 

[Absurdity]

If I were Sweeney, the most I would go is $7.25M. The problem here is that Krug requested a 6 year deal so the AAV probably won't come down too far off of the $8M AAV request. $7M+ is a lot to leave on the table. There will probably be a team out there willing to give what Krug wants.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

and a 10% discount of $7.5 M is $750,000 which sets his salary at $6.75 M

He gets 6 years
He plays for team he wants to in city he wants to raise family
He gets a NMC and knows this is where he will be

term, location, security

that would be my offer if not, bummer, but the Bruins have a stable of young left shots coming in at cheap money for now and will be fine

no, you dont replace Krug that easily.

He is one of the 3-5 best PP weapons in the league, among all skaters not just defenders, and is by far the biggest scoring threat on the blueline the Bruins have had since Bourque,

In fact, the last time a Bruins defenseman had a better PPG (0.83) or points (59) than Krug's 2017-18 season was Bourque himself, all the way back in 1995-96.

Point being, you dont "easily" replace a .80 PPG defender and PP QB. Lets not forget how brutally anemic the PP was for a decade before him

 

[Dr Hook]

no, you dont replace Krug that easily.

He is one of the 3-5 best PP weapons in the league, among all skaters not just defenders, and is by far the biggest scoring threat on the blueline the Bruins have had since Bourque,

In fact, the last time a Bruins defenseman had a better PPG (0.83) or points (59) than Krug's 2017-18 season was Bourque himself, all the way back in 1995-96.

Point being, you dont "easily" replace a .80 PPG defender and PP QB. Lets not forget how brutally anemic the PP was for a decade before him

He is not that hot 5v5 though- he is pretty much a PP weapon. He is a valuable guy, no question, but not irreplaceable. You likely won't get the PP production out of whoever would replace him, true, but you gain in other areas. I am a skeptic that Krug, if he is getting a 6 or 7 year deal as suggested, will be putting up those numbers at age 34+. He is not easily replaced, but the Bruins have enough quality d-men to absorb the loss and not be any worse off in the big picture.

 

[DKH]

no, you dont replace Krug that easily.

He is one of the 3-5 best PP weapons in the league, among all skaters not just defenders, and is by far the biggest scoring threat on the blueline the Bruins have had since Bourque,

In fact, the last time a Bruins defenseman had a better PPG (0.83) or points (59) than Krug's 2017-18 season was Bourque himself, all the way back in 1995-96.

Point being, you dont "easily" replace a .80 PPG defender and PP QB. Lets not forget how brutally anemic the PP was for a decade before him

Takes two to tango

my offer is exceptionally fair

 

[Emerz]

no, you dont replace Krug that easily.

He is one of the 3-5 best PP weapons in the league, among all skaters not just defenders, and is by far the biggest scoring threat on the blueline the Bruins have had since Bourque,

In fact, the last time a Bruins defenseman had a better PPG (0.83) or points (59) than Krug's 2017-18 season was Bourque himself, all the way back in 1995-96.

Point being, you dont "easily" replace a .80 PPG defender and PP QB. Lets not forget how brutally anemic the PP was for a decade before him

The thing is, at this point he's basically strictly used as a pass option, so the question becomes: Do you think McAvoy can thread the needle to Pasta/Marchand with ~80% of Krugs effectiveness? I think he can.

 

[BMC]

$ 8 million for 6 years to a 29 year old PP specialist? No thank you.

And despite the strides Krug has made playing defense in the end that is what he is, a PP specialist. Absolutely lethal from the point on the PP but nothing to write home about 5v5 either as a scorer or a defender.

 

[BMC]

The thing is, at this point he's basically strictly used as a pass option, so the question becomes: Do you think McAvoy can thread the needle to Pasta/Marchand with ~80% of Krugs effectiveness? I think he can.

I agree= all he needs is lots of practice. I have no doubt he could become very effective running the PP.

 

[BruinDust]

I was pretty far off-base when Marchand signed his extension, so I'll refrain from speculating what it would take to keep Krug as a Bruin. Open market, I think he might get offers in the 8 million per range, although he may take less to go to a better team/organization/location. Let's not act like Boston is the ONLY team he'll take an amount lower than the highest bidder.

Like any UFA of his age, I'm far more concerned about the term of the contract than I am the AAV.

 

[hrdpuk]

If I'm making the deal he doesn't get more than Pasta . 6.67 for a 6 yr deal

 

[Absurdity]

 

[DominicT]

The Bruins do not leak stuff like this and haven't since loose lips Chiarelli got the heave ho.

This would be out of character for the team and Krug to do especially given the moves made a week ago.

While this is in fact very true, I will counter with the fact that many, many agents do. The agents are the ones involved in every negotiation while the player takes a back seat to them and the team usually involves different people to do the negotiating. In this case, Don Sweeney, Evan Gold and JFJ. And in a lot of cases, it does the agent good to get the information out in the open. Especially if there is a stalemate.

While I said a few weeks ago Krug's camp was asking for 7 years and the Bruins were offering 5 years, they would likely settle in the middle at 6 years. However, I don't agree with Shawn's take of 6/$49 million.