PTO: [TOR] F Steven Lorentz, Max Pacioretty, Jon Gillies, 21 others invited to Maple Leafs camp

[Sypher04]

I agree there are lots of unknowns. Going with the assumptions of everyone being perfectly healthy I would expect the Leafs to run the forwards like this.

Knies - Matthews - Marner
Domi - Tavares - Nylander
McMann - Kampf/Holmberg- Holmberg/Jarnkok/Cowan
Dewar - Kampf/Minten/Lorentz- Jarnkok/Reeves

For the people thinking Berube will spread out the "Core 4" nothing in his coaching history shows he will do that. He likes to load up and ice time gets decided due to effort/game situtations. He does like his bottom 6 to play heavy with very defined roles, all the while having speed and size especially on the wings. Lorentz definately fits this profile. He also likes his botttom 6 to be strong defensively. one of the reasons I can see Mcmann and Kampf together on a line.

I agree that people should not be just assuming he’d split the core 4 up, but I’m not sure his history matters all that much because 1) with all due respect he’s never had a trio like Matthews, Marner & Nylander up front and 2) the Blues were deep offensively more than they gifted with high end offense. The Leafs are constructed somewhat oppositely to that

 

[57special]

This is the type of guy that will play the way Berube wants.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

I agree that people should not be just assuming he’d split the core 4 up, but I’m not sure his history matters all that much because 1) with all due respect he’s never had a trio like Matthews, Marner & Nylander up front and 2) the Blues were deep offensively more than they gifted with high end offense. The Leafs are constructed somewhat oppositely to that

I agree the Leafs have talent available that he did not have when he was coach of the Blues but he has shown that when givent he choice he will load up his top 6 forwrds and top 4 d with as nuch as talent as possible and then have his bottom 6 and bottom pairing D with role players expected to fill certain defined roles. Nothing in his coaching history disputes this. Also him and Van Ryn like to employ a man on man defensive system rather than a " zone" style system that Keefe employed. This more than anything will dictate what line combos he will employ.

 

[Petes2424]

Surprised it wasn’t Martin honestly but he’s probably still hoping for a contract and not a PTO. Same can be said of Clutterbuck. I’m pretty sure he’s talked to the Leafs earlier in the summer, but with this, it likely eliminates either of those two. Won’t be shocked if both end up in the Atlantic though. They’re all adding certain types of players right now. Don’t count out Nashville for either as well.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Good depth add . I expect him to stick. Especially if Robertson standoff lingers

Surprised it wasn’t Martin honestly but he’s probably still hoping for a contract and not a PTO. Same can be said of Clutterbuck. I’m pretty sure he’s talked to the Leafs earlier in the summer, but with this, it likely eliminates either of those two. Won’t be shocked if both end up in the Atlantic though. They’re all adding certain types of players right now. Don’t count out Nashville for either as well.

I’ve been thinking Clutterbuck might end up in Toronto but probably doesn’t happen without a trade .

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

I asked myself a bunch of times why he didn’t play more. Toronto fans will be happy with him.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[Dion TheFluff]

hmm wonder where Pac fits??

Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Tavares, Knies and Domi all locked into the top 9.

Kampf and likely Dewar (although could be a spare) locked into the 4th line line.

that leave Pacioretty, Jarnkrok, McMann, Holmberg, Robertson, and potentially Cowan and Minten competing for 3 top 9 roles and 1 (possibly 2) 4th line roles.

will be interesting to watch it play out through camp

This is assuming Reaves is likely the 13th forward played in situational games (although wouldn't be shocked if he got waived)

 

[Seb]

He is exactly what the team was missing

 

[Clint Eastwood]

I still associate this guy with the Habs so seeing him in a Leafs jersey will be weird. Reminds me of when Plekanec had a stint with Toronto.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

hmm wonder where Pac fits??

Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Tavares, Knies and Domi all locked into the top 9.

Kampf and likely Dewar (although could be a spare) locked into the 4th line line.

that leave Pacioretty, Jarnkrok, McMann, Holmberg, Robertson, and potentially Cowan and Minten competing for 3 top 9 roles and 1 (possibly 2) 4th line roles.

will be interesting to watch it play out through camp

This is assuming Reaves is likely the 13th forward played in situational games (although wouldn't be shocked if he got waived)

my guess is
Knies-Matthwes-Marner
Domi-Tavares-Nylander
Pacioretty-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Robertson-Holmberg-Reaves
leaving Cowan, Minten, Dewar and McMann as spares

 

[BonMorrison]

Robertson waiting that long cause of opportunity, finally signing, and then Pacioretty getting signed right after is the funniest thing.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Robertson waiting that long cause of opportunity, finally signing, and then Pacioretty getting signed right after is the funniest thing.

That is odd, unless its a sign and trade and/or Patches is LTIR bait

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With Robertson signed I would have thought they were out on Pacioretty.

I'm wondering where he fits.

I don't hate it though.

 

[Rob Brown]

my guess is
Knies-Matthwes-Marner
Domi-Tavares-Nylander
Pacioretty-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Robertson-Holmberg-Reaves
leaving Cowan, Minten, Dewar and McMann as spares

McMann is 100% making the team and not as a spare.

That is odd, unless its a sign and trade and/or Patches is LTIR bait

Highly doubt it's a sign and trade given that the Leafs are posting it all over social media. If it was a trade it'd probably be announced at the same time or right after.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Robertson waiting that long cause of opportunity, finally signing, and then Pacioretty getting signed right after is the funniest thing.

If Robertson can't beat him to a job that is his own fault

 

[OVO16]

Cant hurt. Dude has had some unfortunate injuries.

Maybe a full off-season of training can have him come back better and stronger he's been in a while

 

[Andy]

Pacioretty takes his fitness and conditioning very seriously. It's probably doubtful he ever bounces back from those injuries, but if there is one player that could, it's definitely him.

Enjoyed his time on the habs. As has been the case in habs land for 30 years, he didn't have good support and was asked to carry way more than his talent allowed him to.

He's not a lazy player by any means and has good hockey sense. Would love to see him bounce back, even on the leafs.

 

[MXD]

This screams "Okay, let's see if this works, and if not, mutual termination".

 

[Fatass]

Offer sheet? No club was going to do that for Robertson. Teams already have their own guys like him.

 

[Rob Brown]

Offer sheet? No club was going to do that for Robertson. Teams already have their own guys like him.

Hence the word 'possibility'.

 

[JianYang]

Pacioretty takes his fitness and conditioning very seriously. It's probably doubtful he ever bounces back from those injuries, but if there is one player that could, it's definitely him.

Enjoyed his time on the habs. As has been the case in habs land for 30 years, he didn't have good support and was asked to carry way more than his talent allowed him to.

He's not a lazy player by any means and has good hockey sense. Would love to see him bounce back, even on the leafs.

His skating was key. I'll be interested to see how the motor runs after a few really serious injuries into his mid 30s.

I really liked him in transition but I never really considered him a good static player ie) powerplay. It's the kind of player you wouldn't think would age well particularly given the mileage on his body, but let's see what happens.

 

[Fatass]

Hence the word 'possibility'.

So why even float the idea? No team was going to offer sheet Robertson. Makes no sense for Dregger to even mention it. Old man Patches will play ahead of Robertson.
And didn’t the Leafs already sign Haakenpa but he failed his physical?

 

[Rob Brown]

So why even float the idea? No team was going to offer sheet Robertson. Makes no sense for Dregger to even mention it. Old man Patches will play ahead of Robertson.
And didn’t the Leafs already sign Haakenpa but he failed his physical?

I would wager that Darren Dreger has a slightly better idea of what could or could not be possible compared to Fatass on HFBoards, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Fatass]

I would wager that Darren Dreger has a slightly better idea of what could or could not be possible compared to Fatass on HFBoards, but maybe I'm wrong.

Dregger earns his paycheck by catering to the Leafs. Fatass earns his as a donkey model.
Robertson was not getting a contract offer from any other club or it would have happened already. Teams all have their own guys like him.