socko
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Whoever signs Pesce to a $6 million dollar contract is going to get fired.
Confirmed with Link: [TOR/DAL] Leafs acquire rights to Chris Tanev for Max Ellis, 2026 7th rd selection
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Evilhomer
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About three shifts into his Leafs' career no one will be complaining about this contract. He instantly makes the team significantly better.
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I figured he was going to a Bruin which made a lot of sense.
Did Tre trade a 7th and a prospect to negotiate against himself?
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What time the noose start breaking on these deals?
Did he say around 6 years because he will probably LTIR lol
Did he say around 6 years because he will probably LTIR lol
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5 mil a yr is a good deal for Tanev but at 35 mid season it is a legit concern about the term.
You always play with fire with long term deals in case of injury …LITR helps but when you are in your mid 30’s those chances increase.
We just have to trust our management with what to do with the cap
You always play with fire with long term deals in case of injury …LITR helps but when you are in your mid 30’s those chances increase.
We just have to trust our management with what to do with the cap
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Tre said that he is a locker room changer.... he was about to say he was a culture changer and stopped himself. The Leafs have bigger issues than the roster ... everything that the Leafs have done over the last 5 years is bring in "character" players, Jumbo, Spez, ROR and so on and so on ..... to change the culture .. and the culture never changes.... and we always get the same results... we need big personalities with big skill... I think Tanev and Stammer fit the bill perfectly.
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Why not? $4.5 million is a great number for a player with his level of impact. The length of the contract is irrelevant. In four years the leafs can simply buy it out, which I have no doubt is the real plan (not LTIR or retirement). I think we will see that the structure of the contract will make it as buyout friendly as reasonably possible for the Leafs.
Tanev isn't someone I had high on my list just because of his age, but there's no doubt today he has been one of the best defensive assets on the free agent market. If it comes in at 5m or less (depending on the term) than it's fine. He might give you some solid years while the team is still as is.
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Tanev agent isn’t dumb…leafs just had rights to talk to him before free agency.
Tanev agent knows the market so it’s far from Tre bidding against himself
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No it is most certainly not irrelevent. Lets see sign all mid 30's guys to long term deals than.
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I suspect the difference will be that this contract will be structured so as to make a buyout pretty palatable for the team if need be. Similar to the Reaves contract, but obviously bigger dollars. The leafs have a 4 year window where they will go all out trying to win. Any contract that extends beyond that window will be dealt with after that window closes.
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Tre and his locker room culture change.
I thought Reaves was that guy?
How many old players do we need to change culture ? Or is this another media driven excuse?
Thornton…Marleau…etc were added and all they did was steal money here.
Don’t get me wrong …if Tanev is that guy …make him captain if the culture is so bad and Taveres not being the leader we all need.
In all honesty I think it’s all hogwash….New guys come in and rave about how tight the locker room was is
I thought Reaves was that guy?
How many old players do we need to change culture ? Or is this another media driven excuse?
Thornton…Marleau…etc were added and all they did was steal money here.
Don’t get me wrong …if Tanev is that guy …make him captain if the culture is so bad and Taveres not being the leader we all need.
In all honesty I think it’s all hogwash….New guys come in and rave about how tight the locker room was is
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For those complaining about his age, just a reminder that Giordano won a Norris at 35 yrs of age. I say we get 4 decent years out of him.
Oh good. Not only do we get to sign a mid-30s guy to money and term. We get to spend assets to pointlessly hold his rights for a couple days.
Here's my thoughts on how this all went down:
* Leafs are interested in Tanev as a free agent. They talk to Dallas about his rights (as they may have done with teams of other UFAs they have interest in) and found out they can make the deal for almost nothing, so they do it.
* Tanev's agemt honestly tweets that he has had no talks with the Leafs.
* Some media, misinterpreting the rules for giving an eight-year deal, jump to the conclusion that the Leafs must have made the deal to give Tanev an eight year cap circumventing deal. After learning they're wrong on the 8-year thing, they still continue with the idea that the same sort of cap circumvention deal could be done with a 6 or 7 year deal. And many in media and amongst fans have simply bought into that story.
* As for the Seravalli tweet about the NHL monitoring possible cap circumvention deals, I think that was simply Seravalli asking the NHL about such cap circumventing deals and getting the same answer about monitoring such deals that he would have gotten six months or even six years ago. I don't think it was Seravalli reporting a statement being put out at this time by the NHL.
* Tanev and the Leafs have discussed a possible extension and Weekes believes the AAV is in the $5M area,
I'm not sure we know anything else. I've seen no reason to believe that both the long term contract and the $5M AAV are both true.
It's quite possible that the Leafs and Tanev have reached a deal to be announced later. It's possible that they are still talking. It's possible that they simply know where each other stand and they'll revisit it early into free agency, each knowing that the other could find a deal they like better.
As for the NHL monitoring these possible cap circumvention deals, you have to remember that the contract itself is not where the violation is occurring but rather it is how the deal is reached which is the violation. Basically, teams and agents are not supposed to make deals that include side agreements like a bigger deal down the road, the player agreeing to retire early before the deal is done, promising the player a front office job after their career, giving the player's spouse a job, etc..
Personallly, in the case of cap circumventing contracts, the NHL probably requires real evidence (emails, text messages, sworn statements by someone involved, etc.) there wsa some kind of actual agreement for the player to retire early or to fake an injury requiring them to be LTIRetired.
Pointless? They're obviously negotiating a deal that is probably a little more complicated than most. Better to have a couple of days and do this 1 one 1 then to be fighting against 15 other teams for tanev attention
I mean I'm not really worried about Ellis and next years 7th burning us in the long term.
Might as well have given up future considerations.
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