Proposal: TOR - CAL

[Torontonian]

Might have seen this on the board already not sure.. but

To Calgary: William Nylander
To Toronto: Elias Lindholm

Simple 1 for 1 swap, both players are entering the last year of there deals, gives Calgary a good winger and a chance to resign him, while Lindholm might want to test FA/go to another team. Toronto gets back a 2nd line center to be able to move JT to the wing as he's too slow for 2nd line C and save's Toronto some money now and possibility in the future, and might not want to pay the money Nylander is going to want. (I'd imagine Lindholm is going to cost less to resign then Nylander).

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[Coffee]

Toronto adds, now.

 

[Haatley]

The only way I do this as a Flames fan, is if Lindholm says he isn't resigning in Calgary.

 

[PullHard]

Calling Lindholm a 2C is disingenuous

I don't think the value is so far off that Toronto couldn't add to get there, but Calgary is literally trading away their best player in this deal for a position that they already have pretty solid options in with Toffoli, Mangiapane, and Coleman

 

[Zirakzigil]

Ehh..... I dont do it from Calgarys perspective. Nylander for Hanifin is closer.

 

[CgyFlamesftw]

Might have seen this on the board already not sure.. but

To Calgary: William Nylander
To Toronto: Elias Lindholm

Simple 1 for 1 swap, both players are entering the last year of there deals, gives Calgary a good winger and a chance to resign him, while Lindholm might want to test FA/go to another team. Toronto gets back a 2nd line center to be able to move JT to the wing as he's too slow for 2nd line C and save's Toronto some money now and possibility in the future, and might not want to pay the money Nylander is going to want. (I'd imagine Lindholm is going to cost less to resign than Nylander).

Hell f***in no C>RW, even if Lindholm doesn’t want to resign I would rather trade for futures. Also Lindholm will want a higher AAV than Nylander.

 

[Bond]

This would only work if Hanifin/Toffoli/Tanev etc returns a top 6 center

 

[Torontonian]

The only way I do this as a Flames fan, is if Lindholm says he isn't resigning in Calgary.

Only reason I brought up if Lindholm might want to test the FA market is because of this article from TSN: Backlund, Lindholm non-committal to future in Calgary following Flames’ disappointing season | TSN

 

[Coffee]

Ehh..... I dont do it from Calgarys perspective. Nylander for Hanifin is closer.

Actually you’re right. Going to edit my original post

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Seems pretty weak for Calgary. Lindholm is the better player, playing the more important position.

 

[justashadowof]

Why?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

No way Calgary does this

 

[McJedi]

Might have seen this on the board already not sure.. but

To Calgary: William Nylander
To Toronto: Elias Lindholm

Simple 1 for 1 swap, both players are entering the last year of there deals, gives Calgary a good winger and a chance to resign him, while Lindholm might want to test FA/go to another team. Toronto gets back a 2nd line center to be able to move JT to the wing as he's too slow for 2nd line C and save's Toronto some money now and possibility in the future, and might not want to pay the money Nylander is going to want. (I'd imagine Lindholm is going to cost less to resign then Nylander).

Toronto adds something pretty significant. Like that late 1st rounder. Lindholm is better, lower AAV and also a C.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

No way Calgary does this

But what if Elias Lindholm really doesn’t want to resign with the Flames?

Calgary isn’t going to just let their best player walk out the door without exploring the trade market.

 

[Fatass]

Toronto adds something pretty significant. Like that late 1st rounder. Lindholm is better and lower AAV. Also a C.

What if it was Marner for Lindholm?

 

[Aashir Mallik]

I don’t think it makes much sense on either sides

Nylander probably doesn’t get Lindholm 1 for 1. I don’t want to add something significant on for a rental. It’s essentially a swap of rentals. Lindholm would also want more AAV than nylander, considering his body of work and being a C so I don’t see the point of even doing extended trades as we need to save cap, not use even more on 4 guys

Calgary would be much better off getting futures for him from a team that has the capspace for Lindholm.

 

[Zirakzigil]

But what if Elias Lindholm really doesn’t want to resign with the Flames?

Calgary isn’t going to just let their best player walk out the door without exploring the trade market.

Then there will be multiple teams in on it. Including teams like the Avs.

 

[Bond]

What if it was Marner for Lindholm?

Flames can’t add that much salary. So doesn’t matter

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Then there will be multiple teams in on it. Including teams like the Avs.

But Colorado doesn’t have a Nylander that their offering up.

The Avs could offer multiple 1sts but that would be ill advised considering the Avalanche prospect pool is very shallow and devoid of any high end talent.

 

[McJedi]

What if it was Marner for Lindholm?

Won’t work from a cap perspective. AAVs are too dissimilar. Term isn’t equal either.

 

[SnizzNasty88]

Nah, would rather keep Willy. Flames can have Marner instead for Lindholm, Hanifin and a 1st

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Flames decline. Calgary is cap strapped so taking on a more expensive player is a non-starter. Plus Selke C > 1 dimensional RW.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

But what if Elias Lindholm really doesn’t want to resign with the Flames?

Rebuild. Trade him for futures.

Flames?

Calgary isn’t going to just let their best player walk out the door without exploring the trade market

Are you familiar with Calgary?

 

[Prairie Habs]

But what if Elias Lindholm really doesn’t want to resign with the Flames?

Calgary isn’t going to just let their best player walk out the door without exploring the trade market.

They're scared of a pending UFA so they trade him for another pending UFA? If lindholm doesn't want to re-sign why would they be so certain nylander would?

 

[seanlinden]

Flames can’t add that much salary. So doesn’t matter

Marner for Lindholm and a defenceman would be an interesting swap in my mind.

Challenge is... Hanifin is also a UFA, which puts a ton of risk on Toronto if trading MM for a couple of impending UFAs, and Andersson is probably viewed as a building block in Calgary.

Maybe you do something like Marner for Lindholm & Mangiapane as the NHL pieces moving.