Rumor: TOR and John Tavares close to a deal: 3 years at 7 million

[iago]

We're waiting for a lot of things here in Leafs Nation.

JT was paid like and supposed to be the solution to the "1967" problem, but he wasn't able to solve it, and his salary partially prevented Toronto from signing those who were capable. Time to cut bait and move on.

 

[Fogelhund]

Rise in cap $8m

Tavares $11m to $7, -4m

Marner $10.893 to $13m +2.1m
Woll 900K to $3.67m +2.7m
Knies $1m to $5m +4m
McCabe $2m to $4.5m +2.5m

Gain $8m + $4m = $12m
Loss/raises 2.1+2.7+4+2.5=$11.3m

Difference = +700K (approx).

What wrong with my math?

With the guys currently signed included, we have $32.566 mil in cap space.

Tavares - $7 mil
Marner - $13 mil
Knies - $5 mil

$25 mil.

That leaves $7.566 left.

That's with 10 forwards signed, 6 D and 2 goalies...

Not signed, Lorentz, Dewar, Robertson Patches, Steeves. It does include Grebenkin though.
Not signed on D... Timmins.

Jarnkrok isn't included.

Essentially, you need to sign 5 players, for $7.556, if we assume the above singing prices are correct.

Toronto Maple Leafs | Salary cap and contracts

Cap wages projects Marner at $12.567 x 8, Tavares at $7.974 x 3 and Knies on a bridge at $3.743 x 3 years. (These figures not included in the math above.)

 

[Confucius]

JT was paid like and supposed to be the solution to the "1967" problem, but he wasn't able to solve it, and his salary partially prevented Toronto from signing those who were capable. Time to cut bait and move on.

So who will be a better fit at 7 million?

 

[Fogelhund]

JT was paid like and supposed to be the solution to the "1967" problem, but he wasn't able to solve it, and his salary partially prevented Toronto from signing those who were capable. Time to cut bait and move on.

Yes, one player is responsible completely on their own.

Who are you replacing him with? What if they extend with their current team?

Why not? A 5 or 6 million dollar raise for Knies wouldn’t be unusual others have gotten much more

Marner jumped $10 mil in cap hit?
Matthews jumped $10.5 mil in cap hit?

 

[Confucius]

Yes, one player is responsible completely on their own.

Who are you replacing him with? What if they extend with their current team?


Marner jumped $10 mil in cap hit?
Matthews jumped $10.5 mil in cap hit?

 

[Fogelhund]

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Thanks for the explanation, the original post didn't have that clarity... I thought you meant on the most recent contract for Matthews, and the upcoming one for Marner.

 

[ToneDog]

With the guys currently signed included, we have $32.566 mil in cap space.

Tavares - $7 mil
Marner - $13 mil
Knies - $5 mil

$25 mil.

That leaves $7.566 left.

That's with 10 forwards signed, 6 D and 2 goalies...

Not signed, Lorentz, Dewar, Robertson Patches, Steeves. It does include Grebenkin though.
Not signed on D... Timmins.

Jarnkrok isn't included.

Essentially, you need to sign 5 players, for $7.556, if we assume the above singing prices are correct.

Toronto Maple Leafs | Salary cap and contracts

Cap wages projects Marner at $12.567 x 8, Tavares at $7.974 x 3 and Knies on a bridge at $3.743 x 3 years. (These figures not included in the math above.)

What about Woll going from 900K to $3.67m and McCabe from $2m to $4.5m? If that is in the $32.566 you listed at the top, then OK. I just simplified what it would take to keep the same cast by calculating the players who got and needed raises (i.e. Woll, McCabe, Knies, JT, MM).

 

[HockeyVirus]

I don't believe this rumor at all. How many teams in the league would offer Tavares 7m? How many of them are playoff teams? How many of those are in the east so he is close to family.

Leafs have all the leverage. I would honestly rather take next season as a retool season, save a bit of cap space, draft 10-20 with our first, and then take a run at McDavid the next season and go from there. But at least we would have lots of cap flexibility even with a massive hole at 2C. I think 3C gets filled internally.

 

[thewave]

JT 1x 7m is the only JT deal I agree with

 

[Gallagbi]

So Marner jumped 10 million in cap hit and the cap was lower than today. Mathews jumped 10.5 million in cap hit, William jumped 6 million. 5 million is an improvement if we can sign him to that.

I was commenting on the actual math. 1+5=6, the poster had a typo that he then fixed.

Not sure how your posts relates to mine, or why it's quoted, but I'll be happy if Knies ends up as the PPG player those 3 are.

 

[Fogelhund]

What about Woll going from 900K to $3.67m and McCabe from $2m to $4.5m? If that is in the $32.566 you listed at the top, then OK. I just simplified what it would take to keep the same cast by calculating the players who got and needed raises (i.e. Woll, McCabe, Knies, JT, MM).

Yes, that's included.

 

[Fogelhund]

I don't believe this rumor at all. How many teams in the league would offer Tavares 7m? How many of them are playoff teams? How many of those are in the east so he is close to family.

Quite a few.. Top six C's are in short supply. Just last year, Nashville offered Stamkos $8 million, for a player who was visibly breaking down.

The family is the relevant part though. He likely wants to stay, so it does provide leverage. I'm hoping it ends up working out to a creative deferral play, that gets the cap down to $5 mil... I mean, who cares what he is really paid, just get the cap down. Or, 8 years x $3 million, and stick him on LTIR, when his equipment gets itchy in three to four years. 3 x $7 mil, or 8 x $3 mil is basically the same dollars....

 

[Confucius]

I was commenting on the actual math. 1+5=6, the poster had a typo that he then fixed.

Not sure how your posts relates to mine, or why it's quoted, but I'll be happy if Knies ends up as the PPG player those 3 are.

Yeah for 1/2 the cap hitt of the other 3 anybody would be happy