Top-30 players in your team's organization

[EbonyRaptor]

Name the top-30 players in your favorite team's organization - pro, jrs, college, Europe. Disregard salary or contract status or age or anything other than simply the best 30 hockey players in the organization. Selct who you value most - I selected Hossa becase he's still really good at 36, but I didn't select the 36 year old Rozsival because even though he plays in the NHL, I value young unproven players with potential more than him.

Like this, for the Hawks:

1. Toews (NHL)
2. Kane (NHL)
3. Keith (NHL)
4. Hossa (NHL)
5. Seabrook (NHL)
6. Hjalmarsson (NHL)
7. Saad (NHL)
8. Sharp (NHL)
9. Crawford (NHL)
10. Teravainen (NHL)
11. Shaw (NHL)
12. Kruger (NHL)
13. Oduya (NHL)
14. Bickell (NHL)
15. vanRiemsdyk (NHL)
16. Raanta (NHL)
17. McNeill (AHL)
18. Danault (AHL)
19. Schmaltz (NCAA)
20. Johns (AHL)
21. Pokka (AHL)
22. Hartman (AHL)
23. Smith (NHL)
24. Nordstrom (NHL)
25. Hayden (NCAA)
26. Darling (AHL)
27. Motte (NCAA)
28. Clendening (AHL)
29. Dahlbeck (AHL)
30. Hinostroza (NCAA)

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[WannabeFinn]

so.. our NHL roster and the 7 best AHLers we have? or are we taking potential into consideration here

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

You want people to rank 30 players? Not 5, not 10, but 30?

 

[HanSolo]

I'll do it but this is asking a lot of us.

 

[CheldishGamibno]

Whatever

1. Price
2. Subban
3. Pacioretty
4. Galchenyuk
5. Plekanec
6. Markov
7. Gallagher
8. Desharnais
9. Eller
10. Parenteau
11. Beaulieu
12. Sekac
13. Weise
14. Emelin
15. Prust
16. Tokarski
17. Gonchar
18. Malhotra
19. Bournival
20. Tinordi (AHL)
21. Andrighetto (AHL)
22. Weaver
23. Gilbert
24. Thomas (AHL)
25. Hudon (AHL)
26. Bowman (AHL)
27. Dumont (AHL)
28. Dietz (AHL)
29. Pateryn (AHL)
30. Hensick (AHL)

 

[EbonyRaptor]

so.. our NHL roster and the 7 best AHLers we have? or are we taking potential into consideration here

Not necessarily. Yes, consider potential too. Naturally the top of the list is going to be NHL players, but then is will probably be a mix of Jrs and AHL and college, etc.

The reason I picked 30 is so that it is more than the NHL roster. I want to see how people value the players in the organization so potential is a definite factor.

 

[Mikeaveli]

Ranking 30 players is pretty hard so I probably screwed up somewhere.

1. Steven Stamkos
2. Victor Hedman
3. Tyler Johnson
4. Ondrej Palat
5. Nikita Kucherov
6. Anton Stralman
7. Ben Bishop
8. Ryan Callahan
9. Valtteri Filppula
10. Jason Garrison
11. Jonathan Drouin
12. Alex Killorn
13. Radko Gudas
14. Cedric Paquette
15. Vladislav Namestnikov (AHL)
16. Matt Carle
17. Andrej Sustr
18. Brian Boyle
19. Andrey Vasilevskiy (AHL)
20. J.T. Brown
21. Brett Connolly
22. Mark Barberio
23. Nikita Nesterov (AHL)
24. Luke Witkowski (AHL)
25. Jonathan Marchessault (AHL)
26. Yanni Gourde (AHL)
27. Slater Koekkoek (AHL)
28. Kristers Gudlevskis (AHL)
29. Brenden Morrow
30. Matt Peca (NCAA)

Honourable Mentions: Adam Erne (QMJHL), Joel Vermin (AHL), Tanner Richard (AHL), Nikita Gusev (KHL), Mike Angelidis (AHL)
Dishonourable Mention: Evgeni Nabokov

 

[JCLiponfanboy*]

Brian Little
Dustin Byfuglien
Blake Wheeler
Andrew Ladd
Tobias Enstrom
Zach Bogosian
Jacob Trouba
Evander Kane
Mark Scheifele
Mathieu Perreault
Michael Hutchinson
Michael Frolik
Adam Lowry
Ondrej Pavelec
Alex Burmistrov
Paul Postma
Ben Chiarot
Matthew Halischuk
Grant Clitsome
Mark Stuart
Jay Harrison
Eric O'dell
Jim Slater
Anthony Peluso
Adam Pardy
Chris Thorburn
Patrice Cormier
Keaton Ellerby
Julien Brouillete
Peter Budaj
Didn't include prospects not playing n the NHL

 

[EbonyRaptor]

Whatever

1. Price
2. Subban
3. Pacioretty
4. Galchenyuk
5. Plekanec
6. Markov
7. Gallagher
8. Desharnais
9. Eller
10. Parenteau
11. Beaulieu
12. Sekac
13. Weise
14. Emelin
15. Prust
16. Tokarski
17. Gonchar
18. Malhotra
19. Bournival
20. Tinordi (AHL)
21. Andrighetto (AHL)
22. Weaver
23. Gilbert
24. Thomas (AHL)
25. Hudon (AHL)
26. Bowman (AHL)
27. Dumont (AHL)
28. Dietz (AHL)
29. Pateryn (AHL)
30. Hensick (AHL)

No Fucale or Reway or De La Rose ?

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Not ranking goalies, as I don't want to unleash the hell that is the debate of Stalock vs. Niemi

Potential weighs in a bit, and Bold indicates players not in the NHL.

Note: I'm not a Scott Hannan/Matt Irwin fan. I am a huge Melkman fan.


1. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (NHL)
2. Joe Pavelski (NHL)
3. Logan Couture (NHL)
4. Joe Thornton (NHL)
5. Patrick Marleau (NHL)
6. Justin Braun (NHL)
7. Brent Burns (NHL)
8. Tomas Hertl (NHL)
9. Brenden Dillon (NHL)
10. Tommy Wingels/Matt Nieto (NHL)
11. Tommy Wingels/Matt Nieto (NHL)
12. Melker Karlsson (NHL)
13. James Sheppard (NHL)
14. Tyler Kennedy (NHL)
15. Mirco Mueller (NHL)
16. Chris Tierney (AHL)
17. Barclay Goodrow (NHL)
18. Konrad Abeltshauser (AHL)
19. Tye McGinn (NHL)
20. Nikolay Goldobin (Liiga)
21. Peter Emmanuelsson (AHL)
22. Rourke Chartier (AHL)
23. Andrew Desjardins (AHL)
24. Dylan Sadowy/Kevin Labanc (WHL/OHL)
25. Dylan Sadowy/Kevin Labanc (WHL/OHL)
26. Daniil Tarasov (AHL)
27. Jeremy Langlois (AHL)
28. Noah Rod (NLA)
29. Eriah Hayes (AHL)
30. Julius Bergman (OHL)

NHL'ers missing the list: Scott Hannan, Matt Irwin, John Scott, Mike Brown, Adam Burish (In AHL Now)

Other Notable's missing the list: Cody Ferriero (Unfortunately his career may be over. Would likely be around 30 if healthy), Emil Galimov (Great pick, I just haven't seen him that much), Freddie Hamilton (Whole bunch of meh), Michael Brodzinski (Great Prospect, just not NHL ready anytime soon), Dylan DeMelo and Taylor Fedun (Good AHL players, but since NHL upside plays a part, I will leave them out), Joakim Ryan (Haven't seen too much of him, but looks like a PP specialist when I have).

 

[member 116861]

1. Semyon Varlamov (NHL)
2. Erik Johnson (NHL)
3. Matt Duchene (NHL)
4. Gabriel Landeskog (NHL)
5. Ryan O'Reilly (NHL)
6. Alex Tanguay (NHL)
7. Nathan MacKinnon (NHL)
8. Jarome Iginla (NHL)
9. Tyson Barrie (NHL)
10. Jan Hejda (NHL)
11. Jamie McGinn (NHL)
12. Calvin Pickard (NHL/AHL?)
13. Brad Stuart (NHL)
14. John Mitchell (NHL)
15. Zach Redmond (NHL)
16. Jesse Winchester (NHL)
17. Dennis Everberg (NHL/AHL?)
18. Max Talbot (NHL)
19. Daniel Briere (NHL)
20. Borna Rendulic (NHL/AHL?)
21. Chris Bigras (OHL)
22. Conner Bleackley (WHL)
23. Stefan Elliott (AHL)
24. Cody McLeod (NHL)
25. Max Noreau (AHL)
26. Duncan Siemens (AHL)
27. Marc-Andre Cliche (NHL)
28. Sami Aittokallio (AHL)
29. Will Butcher (NCAA)
30. Mason Geertsen (WHL)

 

[tigervixxxen]

I feel like my perception is going to be a bit different. I don't want to value all the marginal players on the team and I value our top prospects more than depth or AHL guys. OP said value and not who is best right now. So this is weighted between trade/future value and value given to the team right now.



1. MacKinnon
2. Duchene
3. Landeskog
4. Varlamov
5. E Johnson
6. O'Reilly
7. Barrie
8. Iginla
9. Tanguay
10. Mitchell
11. McGinn
12. Bigras (OHL)
13. Bleackley (WHL)
14. Pickard (AHL)
15. Stuart
16. Hejda
17. Everberg (NHL/AHL)
18. Rendulic (NHL/AHL)
19. Siemens (AHL)
20. Martin (OHL)
21. Hishon (AHL)
22. Bourke (AHL)
23. Geertsen (WHL)
24. Butcher (NCAA)
25. Elliott (AHL)
26. Redmond
27. Talbot
28. Bordeleau
29. McLeod
30. Briere

 

[Mischa]

well I wouldn't say i'm the best for this but i did it anyway and also ended up writing short descriptions to sorta explain my thinking. no sure that helps since it still comes off as arbitrary to me but w/e


1. Crosby (NHL)
2. Malkin (NHL)
3. Letang (NHL) (sorta like fleury that we've seen his highs but he hasn't had nearly the lows. been very solid all year.)
4. Perron (NHL) (came in and has been very impressive. he's described as kovalev like and he can play the goalie well.)
5. Hornqvist (NHL) (net front presence and overall effort player. his skating and skill are deceptive)
6. Maatta (NHL) (was excellent at beginning okay after cancer diagnosis but you can't really blame him)
7. Fleury (NHL) (at least in terms of talent. if it was just from this year he'd be #1)
8. Bennett (NHL) (kid looks good. till perron came around i'd put him at 3-4 in terms of offensive skill/creativity)
9. Ehrhoff (NHL) (not the offensive dynamo you'd expect but solid player all around)
10. Despres (NHL) (has some stretches where he plays very well and justifies the maatta v despres debate but then makes a few bad mistakes in games. doesn't help he has to carry scuderi around)
11. Martin (NHL) (not necessarily bad but disappointing after we got used to him being really solid in all zones for a couple years)
12. Sutter (NHL) (up and down this year. went from his line carrying the team to completely disappearing)
13. Dupuis (he outplayed or at least out efforted kunitz while he was here
14. Kunitz (NHL) (has been underwhelming but can still put up stats apparently)
15. Downie (NHL) (could definitely be higher since he has borderline top 6 offensive abilities. penalties weigh him down, even ones that aren't really his fault)
16. Comeau (NHL) (good up and down the lineup. sorta confusing since i'd rather have him with malkin than say kunitz but i'm not sure he's neccessarily a better player)
17. Pouliot (AHL) (he can be quite dynamic at times. small sample size though)
18. Greiss(NHL) (started with couple very good games then hardly got any for awhile and played mediocre. not really sure what to say)
19. Kapanen (Liiga) (appears to have NHL level ability just needs the strength and to keep his head up)
20. Spaling (NHL) (completely average player but nothing wrong with that. )
21. Goc (NHL) (hasn't gotten much of a chance since he's stuck with adams and sill tbf)
22. Sundqvst (SHL) (looked like he could play a solid bottom 6 role rn and hopefully a future 3rd line center)
23. Harrington (AHL) (fairly solid for awhile but iirc left cold)
24. Scuderi (NHL) (bounceback year. isn't complete garbage)
25. Farnham (AHL) (well ability not so much. he's very good at his job though)
26. Murray (AHL) (won a job in the A. don't really pay attention to the A but iirc he's doing pretty well)
27. Dumoulin (AHL) (i remember him struggling like the other d-prospects but you can see he doesn't have the same upside. will be solid in the end)
28. Bortuzzo (NHL) (i liked him in the past but i'm not sure i have much positive to say. i guess part of his problem is he can get paired with scuderi which works awfully for both. despres and bort together are very physical and i'd like to see more of that i think)
29. Jarry (WHL) (jrs so i dont' know much. goalie fo the future (TM))
30. Megna (AHL) (has the speed and arguably talent just needs to mentally think fast enough for NHL. could still develop or end up an AHL journeyman)

(acrobello is too soon to say imo)

 

[YoungSinatra]

Not ranking goalies, as I don't want to unleash the hell that is the debate of Stalock vs. Niemi

Potential weighs in a bit, and Bold indicates players not in the NHL.

Note: I'm not a Scott Hannan/Matt Irwin fan. I am a huge Melkman fan.


1. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (NHL)
2. Joe Pavelski (NHL)
3. Logan Couture (NHL)
4. Joe Thornton (NHL)
5. Patrick Marleau (NHL)
6. Justin Braun (NHL)
7. Brent Burns (NHL)
8. Tomas Hertl (NHL)
9. Brenden Dillon (NHL)
10. Tommy Wingels/Matt Nieto (NHL)
11. Tommy Wingels/Matt Nieto (NHL)
12. Melker Karlsson (NHL)
13. James Sheppard (NHL)
14. Tyler Kennedy (NHL)
15. Mirco Mueller (NHL)
16. Chris Tierney (AHL)
17. Barclay Goodrow (NHL)
18. Konrad Abeltshauser (AHL)
19. Tye McGinn (NHL)
20. Nikolay Goldobin (Liiga)
21. Peter Emmanuelsson (AHL)
22. Rourke Chartier (AHL)
23. Andrew Desjardins (AHL)
24. Dylan Sadowy/Kevin Labanc (WHL/OHL)
25. Dylan Sadowy/Kevin Labanc (WHL/OHL)
26. Daniil Tarasov (AHL)
27. Jeremy Langlois (AHL)
28. Noah Rod (NLA)
29. Eriah Hayes (AHL)
30. Julius Bergman (OHL)

NHL'ers missing the list: Scott Hannan, Matt Irwin, John Scott, Mike Brown, Adam Burish (In AHL Now)

Other Notable's missing the list: Cody Ferriero (Unfortunately his career may be over. Would likely be around 30 if healthy), Emil Galimov (Great pick, I just haven't seen him that much), Freddie Hamilton (Whole bunch of meh), Michael Brodzinski (Great Prospect, just not NHL ready anytime soon), Dylan DeMelo and Taylor Fedun (Good AHL players, but since NHL upside plays a part, I will leave them out), Joakim Ryan (Haven't seen too much of him, but looks like a PP specialist when I have).

We have Raffi Torres still right?

 

[KirkOut]

1. Jaden Schwartz
2. Vladimir Tarasenko
3. Alex Pietrangelo
4. Alexander Steen
5. Kevin Shattenkirk
6. David Backes
7. Brian Elliott
8. Paul Stastny
9. Jay Bouwmeester
10. TJ Oshie
11. Jori Lehtera
12. Patrick Berglund
13. Jake Allen
14. Carl Gunnarson
15. Maxim Lapierre
16. Dmitri Jaskin
17. Barret Jackman
18. Ryan Reaves
19. Ian Cole
20. Ty Rattie (AHL)
21. Robby Fabbri (OHL)
22. Colton Parayko (NCAA)
23. Ivan Barbashev (QMJHL)
24. Petteri Lindbohm (AHL)
26. Jordan Schmaltz (NCAA)
27. Joakim Lindstrom
28. Tommy Vanelli (WHL)
29. Jordan Binnington (AHL)
30. Ville Husso (Finland)

ah crap I forgot Steve Ott. Put him between Jackman and Reaves

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Ottawa
Currently how i value them short term give or take 1-3 spots

1.Karlsson
2.Ryan
3.Anderson
4.Methot
5.Turris
6.Stone
7.Hoffman
8.MacArthur
9.Ceci
10.Zibanejad
11.Cowen
12.Lazar....i guess
13.Chiasson
14.Pageau
15.Condra
16.Borowieki
17.Neil
18.Wiercioch
19.Legwand
20.Smith
21.Gryba
22.Phillips

dunno michalek or lehner

prospects with no NHL experience

Prince
Puempel
Paul
Wikstrand
Englund
Claessan
Lindberg
Dzingle

wild cards

Wideman, Dunn, Perron, robinson, hogberg, harpur

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

No Fucale or Reway or De La Rose ?

Or Scherbak or McCarron...

 

[TheOllieC]

Eric Staal
Justin Faulk
Andrej Sekera
Jordan Staal
Jeff Skinner
Elias Lindholm
Alex Semin
Haydn Fleury
Jiri Tlusty
Cam Ward
Anton Khudobin
Victor Rask
Ryan Murphy
Nathan Gerbe
Riley Nash
Ron Hainsey
Brock McGinn
Sergey Tolchinsky
Andrej Nestrasil
John Michael Liles
Patrick Dwyer
Jay McClement
Tim Gleason
Lucas Wallmark
Chris Terry
Brendan Woods
Michal Jordan
Brett Pesce
Trevor Carrick
Alex Nedeljkovic


So much garbage.

 

[AngelDuck]

Ducks:

Potential is somewhat taken into account

1) Ryan Getzlaf
2) Corey Perry
3) Hampus Lindholm
4) Ryan Kesler
5) Frederik Andersen
6) Cam Fowler
7) Sami Vatanen
8) Francois Beauchemin
9) Patrick Maroon
10) Matt Beleskey
11) Kyle Palmieri
12) Jakob Silfverberg
13)Andrew Cogliano
14) John Gibson (AHL)
15) Ben Lovejoy
16) Rickard Rakell
17) Emerson Etem (AHL)
18) Devante Smith-Pelly
19) Shea Theodore (WHL)
20) Nick Ritchie (OHL)
21) Clayton Stoner
22) Nate Thomspon
23) Tim Jackman
24) William Karlsson (AHL)
25) Max Friberg (AHL)
26) Chris Wagner (AHL)
27) Nicolas Kerdiles (AHL)
28) Andy Welinski (NCAA)
29) Kevin Roy (NCAA)
30) Stefan Noesen (AHL)

HM: Brandon Montour


That was hard...Theodore and Gibson have the most potential to climb up that list quickly in the next 2 years

 

[ottawa]

Whatever

1. Price
2. Subban
3. Pacioretty
4. Galchenyuk
5. Plekanec
6. Markov
7. Gallagher
8. Desharnais
9. Eller
10. Parenteau
11. Beaulieu
12. Sekac
13. Weise
14. Emelin
15. Prust
16. Tokarski
17. Gonchar
18. Malhotra
19. Bournival
20. Tinordi (AHL)
21. Andrighetto (AHL)
22. Weaver
23. Gilbert
24. Thomas (AHL)
25. Hudon (AHL)
26. Bowman (AHL)
27. Dumont (AHL)
28. Dietz (AHL)
29. Pateryn (AHL)
30. Hensick (AHL)

 

[Zombotron]

1. Henrik Sedin
2. Daniel Sedin
3. Bo Horvat
4. Alexander Edler
5. Dan Hamhuis
6. Kevin Bieksa
7. Alexandre Burrows
8. Chris Tanev
9. Radim Vrbata
10. Ryan Miller
11. Eddie Lack
12. Jake Virtanen (CHL)
13. Zack Kassian
14. Frank Corrado
15. Chris Higgins
16. Jannik Hansen
17. Nicklas Jensen (AHL)
18. Linden Vey
19. Derek Dorsett
20. Nick Bonino
21. Hunter Shinkaruk (AHL)
22. Thatcher Demko (NCAA)
23. Gustav Forsling (SHL)
24. Jacob Markstrom (AHL)
25. Brad Richardson
26. Shawn Matthias
27. Jordan Subban (CHL)
28. Jared McCann (CHL)
29. Brendan Gaunce (AHL)
30. Luca Sbisa

 

[member 116861]

I feel like my perception is going to be a bit different. I don't want to value all the marginal players on the team and I value our top prospects more than depth or AHL guys. OP said value and not who is best right now. So this is weighted between trade/future value and value given to the team right now.

I'm going to have to edit my post. I did my rankings on who I think is the best player right now.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

We have Raffi Torres still right?

He's done unfortunately.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

Good lists. I was hoping to get a sense for the non-NHL (even non-AHL) player values. When I did my list of players in the Hawks organization, I could have easily included another 5-10 players and maybe should have done an honorable mention section. Players like Paliotta (NCAA), Calnan (NCAA) Ross (AHL) Press (Swe), Norell (Swe), and Iocapelli (USHL), just to name a few more.

 

[HanSolo]

I tried to get through it and I kept forgetting to add in people...forget it.