tombombadil
Registered User
Hi guys. Looking at some of the other threads onhere, this might come across as caveman-like, but I find it interesting, regardless.
I went through hockey-ref's adjusted stats, starting with all the guys who have had at least 1 100 point adjusted season, found the each guy's best 3 years of adjusted points, and made a total.
I made a compromise between healthy players, and the oft-injured ones. Any single season HAD to have involved at least 60 games in order to count, then it was prorated to a full season. So, there are a lot of very big seasons here, on my personal list, that may not have shown up in Art Rossville. This, I feel, is a good compromise. Crosby, Forsberg, Lemieux, Lindros, and MOST of all, Pat Lafontaine, lose some good 'on pace' seasons, and the entire 94-95 season is eliminated - but, I feel 60 games constitutes a season, and anything less is more of an 'on pace' sample size.
I did these numbers with some beer, and got a bit excited, so I flew through it. Many numbers are rounded by season, so several of these totals may be off by a point, or maybe even 2.
Lastly, I removed everyone pre-1980 except Trottier, Bossy, and Dionne. There are a few reasons for this, but mostly I feel that era scoring is so skewed in the first years after expansion, especially in 70-75 when they started playing the 06 teams against the expansion teams an equal amount of games that it wrecks the numbers. League scoring was kinda low, because so many teams were very weak - yet 06 team scoring was similar to 80's scoring, so I feel 06 guys had an enormous adjustment advantage. It was easy to make the 1980 split because only those 3 guys carried their careers strongly into the 80's - the other 70's producers did not. Those 3 also have most of their big years in the 80's.
No further ado:
1. Mario Lemieux - 532
2. Wayne Gretzky - 512
3. Jaromir Jagr - 427
4. Alex Ovechkin - 373
5. Joe Sakic - 370
6. Evgeni Malkin - 365
7. Peter Forsberg - 364
8. Teemu Selanne - 363
9. Sidney Crosby - 358
9. Joe Thornton - 358
11. Adam Oates - 355
12. Eric Lindros - 351
13. Steve Yzerman - 346
14. Paul Kariya - 342
15. Bryan Trottier - 337
16. Marcel Dionne - 335
16. Jari Kurri - 335
18. Brett Hull - 330
19. Jarome Iginla - 327
20. Theoren Fleury - 326
21. Mike Bossy - 325
22. Pavel Bure - 324
22. Markus Naslund - 324
24. Jason Spezza - 321
25. Martin St. Louis - 320
26. Daniel Alfredsson - 319
26. Ron Francis - 319
28. Daniel Sedin - 318
29. Sergei Fedorov - 317
29. Danny Heatley - 317
31. Alex Mogilny - 315
32. Pierre Turgeon - 314
33. Zigmund Palffy - 311
33. John Leclair - 311
35. Peter Stastny - 310
35. Steven Stamkos - 310
35. Henrik Sedin - 310
38. Mark Messier - 309
38. Paul Coffey - 309
38. Pat Lafontaine - 309
41. Pavol Demitra - 304
42. Denis Savard - 303
42. Alexei Kovalev - 303
44. Burning Nipples - 301
44. Ilya Kovalchuk - 301
46. Vincent Lecavalier - 300
46. Todd Bertuzzi - 300
46. Pavel Datsyuk - 300
46. Mark Recchi - 300
I went through hockey-ref's adjusted stats, starting with all the guys who have had at least 1 100 point adjusted season, found the each guy's best 3 years of adjusted points, and made a total.
I made a compromise between healthy players, and the oft-injured ones. Any single season HAD to have involved at least 60 games in order to count, then it was prorated to a full season. So, there are a lot of very big seasons here, on my personal list, that may not have shown up in Art Rossville. This, I feel, is a good compromise. Crosby, Forsberg, Lemieux, Lindros, and MOST of all, Pat Lafontaine, lose some good 'on pace' seasons, and the entire 94-95 season is eliminated - but, I feel 60 games constitutes a season, and anything less is more of an 'on pace' sample size.
I did these numbers with some beer, and got a bit excited, so I flew through it. Many numbers are rounded by season, so several of these totals may be off by a point, or maybe even 2.
Lastly, I removed everyone pre-1980 except Trottier, Bossy, and Dionne. There are a few reasons for this, but mostly I feel that era scoring is so skewed in the first years after expansion, especially in 70-75 when they started playing the 06 teams against the expansion teams an equal amount of games that it wrecks the numbers. League scoring was kinda low, because so many teams were very weak - yet 06 team scoring was similar to 80's scoring, so I feel 06 guys had an enormous adjustment advantage. It was easy to make the 1980 split because only those 3 guys carried their careers strongly into the 80's - the other 70's producers did not. Those 3 also have most of their big years in the 80's.
No further ado:
1. Mario Lemieux - 532
2. Wayne Gretzky - 512
3. Jaromir Jagr - 427
4. Alex Ovechkin - 373
5. Joe Sakic - 370
6. Evgeni Malkin - 365
7. Peter Forsberg - 364
8. Teemu Selanne - 363
9. Sidney Crosby - 358
9. Joe Thornton - 358
11. Adam Oates - 355
12. Eric Lindros - 351
13. Steve Yzerman - 346
14. Paul Kariya - 342
15. Bryan Trottier - 337
16. Marcel Dionne - 335
16. Jari Kurri - 335
18. Brett Hull - 330
19. Jarome Iginla - 327
20. Theoren Fleury - 326
21. Mike Bossy - 325
22. Pavel Bure - 324
22. Markus Naslund - 324
24. Jason Spezza - 321
25. Martin St. Louis - 320
26. Daniel Alfredsson - 319
26. Ron Francis - 319
28. Daniel Sedin - 318
29. Sergei Fedorov - 317
29. Danny Heatley - 317
31. Alex Mogilny - 315
32. Pierre Turgeon - 314
33. Zigmund Palffy - 311
33. John Leclair - 311
35. Peter Stastny - 310
35. Steven Stamkos - 310
35. Henrik Sedin - 310
38. Mark Messier - 309
38. Paul Coffey - 309
38. Pat Lafontaine - 309
41. Pavol Demitra - 304
42. Denis Savard - 303
42. Alexei Kovalev - 303
44. Burning Nipples - 301
44. Ilya Kovalchuk - 301
46. Vincent Lecavalier - 300
46. Todd Bertuzzi - 300
46. Pavel Datsyuk - 300
46. Mark Recchi - 300