Bobby Hull record: (left NHL at 33)
Hart:
1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 7
All Star Finishes:
12 times
Scoring finishes:
1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9
Goal finishes:
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
Assists:
5, 5, 6, 6, 6,
7 year VsX:
108.3
7 year Goal VsX
70.2
Even Strength VsX
74
Postseason VsX
487 (15th all time from 1918 to present)
-Led postseason in goals 3 times, points once (1 Cup with 4 finals apperances)
-71 Cup final, Hull had 9 points and was a +4 in 7 games against the Habs. Team high
-65 Cup final, Hull had 4 points in 7 games. Even. Team high in points.
-62 Cup final, Hull had 8 points in 6 games. -2. Team high in scoring.
-61 Cup final, Hull had 7 points in 6 games. +4. 2nd in scoring.
28 points in 26 games and a +6. Led team in points 3 out of 4 times and was 2nd the only other time.
-Only 2 chances with national team and was fantastic both times against elite comp in best on best format.
-Main comp for LW postseason AS nods was Frank Mahovlich and Dickie Moore, early in his career (with John Bucyk), 2 players who will easily make the top 100 project.
-Main comp for Hart voting included Gordie Howe, Jean Beliveau, Stan Mikita, and Bobby Orr.
Alex Ovechkin Totals
Hart Record:
1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 6, 6, 9
AS finishes:
11 time AS
Scoring Finishes:
1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8,
Goal Finishes:
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5,
Assists finishes:
6, 6, 10
7 year Vsx
98.4
7 year Goal VsX
59.5
Even Strength VsX
67
Postseason VsX
267 (169th....doesn't include last year so if somebody has the updated total for 8 that would be great)
-1 Cup win in 13 seasons. 1 trip.
-Got past the 2nd round only once. 2018.
-From 2008 to 2011 scored 50 points in 37 games (Team finished in standings 1st, 1st, 1st*, 1st). Never past 2nd round.
-From 2012 to 2017 scored just 40 points in 60 games (Team finished 2nd, 1st, miss, 3rd, 1st*, 1sts*). Never past 2nd round.
-Scored 27 points in 24 games during Cup winning year. 2nd on team. Led playoffs in goals.
-In 3 best on best tournaments (Olympics: Ovechkin's teams have finished 4th, 5th and 6th). He scored 11 points in 15 games.
-Ovechkin's comp for both AS and Hart shares is weaker than Hull's. By a lot, especially the Hart. His entire career is marked by repeated failures in big spots.
-Ovechkin won the Conn Smythe despite being outscored by Kuznetsov 18-12 in rounds 3 and 4. Considering Ovechkin doesn't contribute in a defensive manner or on the kill, is this not the same treatment as Crosby received 2 years earlier? Giving the award to the name over the better player(s)?
-Ovechkin has led the league in shots taken 11 times already in 13 years. The next closest player? Hull with 7. 3rd place is a slew of people with 4.
-His true shooting % when accounting for missed shots is 7.5%. 8436 shots attempted since his career began (actually doesn't include 06 or 07 as total shots don't exist).
-The next closest player that I can see is Eric Staal is 5693.
-That means Ovechkin has launched 2,743 more shots than any other player in the league since 2006.
-In any other sport we judge people on shooting % and efficiency, but despite Ovechkin being a shoot first and often shoot only player during his career (looking at goals and assist splits), we scoff at the notion? Why? I mean if a person needs 100 more shots to score a few more goals than the next guy do we not adjust for efficiency?
-Bobby Hull had 4539 shots on goal from 1960 until 1972. Next closest was Gordie Howe at 3709. Mikita was 3rd at 3218. Difference of 830.
-Ovechkin has had 5047 shots on goal since 2005-06. Next closest is Eric Staal at 3482. Difference of 1565.
-Hull faced stiffer comp for major awards and yet comes out looking better anyway. He was a more balanced offensive player. Better at even strength. Better in the postseason as a scorer. Showed well in 3 of his 4 Cup final appearances. Showed extremely well in his only 2 international appearances, despite being 36 and 38 years old. And then there is the tape. Watch Bobby Hull. Watch Ovechkin. Hull is clearly a more fluid and complete player.
