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Run the Jewels

Run the Jewels

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I wrote a long article on the current state of the prospect pool, here's the link if you want to read it.

If you want the TL;DR version, here it is:

10. Rudy Guimond, G
9. Amadeus Lombardi, F
8. Nate Danielson, C
7. Anton Johansson, RD
6. Carter Bear, LW
5. Eddie Genborg, F
4. Michal Postava, G
3. Michael Brandsegg-Nygård, RW
2. Trey Augustine, G
1. Max Plante, LW

Let's see your top 10 list.
 
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Run the Jewels said:
If he's a bottom 6 forward, and that's what the scouts at EP believed and what Scott Wheeler implies, then yeah, it's a problem.
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He outproduced your number 5 prospect.

On a per game basis he also outproduced your number 3 prospect in the AHL.

He outproduced your number 3 prospect (outright) in the NHL.

Wheeler also recently ranked him above your number 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7th ranked prospects. So Im not sure you can use him as some sort of authority, if you're not even going to be consistent in which of his opinions you will accept.
 
SirloinUB said:
He outproduced your number 5 prospect.

On a per game basis he also outproduced your number 2 prospect in the AHL.

He also outproduced your number 2 prospect (outright) in the NHL.
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My number 2 is Trey Augustine. Danielson has played 89 AHL games and has 15 goals. MBN has 62 AHL games and 20 goals.

If you think Nate Danielson is trending well, that's your right, but it's not something I agree with at all.
 
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My number 2 is Trey Augustine. Danielson has played 89 AHL games and has 15 goals. MBN has 62 AHL games and 20 goals.

If you think Nate Danielson is trending well, that's your right, but it's not something I agree with at all.
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Typo. I meant 3 and have already edited my post accordingly.

25-26 points/game in AHL
- Danielson: 0.833
- MBN: 0.733

25-26 points/game in NHL
- Danielson: 0.25
- MBN: 0.07

Wheeler, ranked Danielson ahead of MBN. Wheeler actually ranked him above your number 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7th ranked prospects. Seems inconsistent to reference wheeler's opinion but then ignore how he actually compares/ranks the players.
 
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Typo. I meant 3 and have already edited my post accordingly.

25-26 points/game in AHL
- Danielson: 0.833
- MBN: 0.733

25-26 points/game in NHL
- Danielson: 0.25
- MBN: 0.07

Wheeler, ranked Danielson ahead of MBN. Wheeler actually ranked him above your number 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7th ranked prospects. Seems inconsistent to reference wheeler's opinion but then ignore how he actually compares/ranks the players.
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Those are Wheeler's rankings, I have my own. MBN is trending to have a clear role in Detroit next season, while it's unclear whether Danielson will be in Detroit or need to spend another season in the AHL because he only played 18 games last season.

You can play with the stats however you want with an 18 game sample size, but MBN had a very strong regular season and playoffs in Grand Rapids while Nate had a very disappointing season. Sure, he was injured, but there's nothing to indicate he's going to be the 60 point scoring line pivot in the NHL that his supporters have suggested.

I keep getting pushback on my consistent view that Danielson is going to be a bottom 6 center, but there's nothing to date to suggest that's not the case.
 
1) Nate Danielson
2) Trey Augustine
3) Carter Bear
4) Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
5) Sebastian Cossa
6) Max Plante
7) Anton Johansson
8) Eddie Genborg
9) Michal Postava
10) Carter Mazur

I have criticisms in favour and against Danielson and Cossa each:

Danielson is an NHL player. It really looked to me like the coaching staff was killing his confidence after a while... There was zero reason not to keep him around, throw him on the wing, and play him at PP2. Instead, they got impatient, and saddled him with garbage or struggling wingers expecting something out of a guy with 1/4 of a season of NHL experience. Yes, expectations of him are high, but I maintain 28 games was not enough of a sample size to determine his worth on Detroit. I bet he was playing with the "not to screw up" mentality, much like what Soderblom had spoken of. Then you send him back down to the AHL, a goon league, where he has NOTHING MORE TO PROVE, and he gets injured 14 games later and misses the remainder of the season with a worrisome injury. Tonnes of development time lost there

Danielson could have stood to be more aggressive, consistently. He looked fine, and then looked more and more timid. Gee wonder why that might have been? But... He was literally getting his feet wet, and still scored at a similar pace to Dvorsky of the Blues in the NHL. Big difference between the two is that they put Dvorsky in favourable positions to succeed and DD scored 12 goals. Why the F did Kasper and Finnie keep getting shots at top 6 LW when Danielson did not? I will die on this hill until Danielson plays a half season in the NHL next year to see how he is really trending

They f***ed it with Cossa. Call him up in December, let him back up Gibson as you waived Talbot who sucked. That's all they had to do. Instead GR came down from their high, and Cossa began to falter and lose focus, showing a lack of mental fortitude falling into bad habits. Then losing the crease to an AHL rookie goaltender for the entirety of the playoffs was the cherry on top, hence why he's fallen on my list

However, Cossa needed to... Play better, consistently. Dominate the rest of the AHL season, stand on your head, and then I'm sure you're backing up Gibson in the NHL next year
 
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Run the Jewels said:
Those are Wheeler's rankings, I have my own. MBN is trending to have a clear role in Detroit next season, while it's unclear whether Danielson will be in Detroit or need to spend another season in the AHL because he only played 18 games last season.

You can play with the stats however you want with an 18 game sample size, but MBN had a very strong regular season and playoffs in Grand Rapids while Nate had a very disappointing season. Sure, he was injured, but there's nothing to indicate he's going to be the 60 point scoring line pivot in the NHL that his supporters have suggested.

I keep getting pushback on my consistent view that Danielson is going to be a bottom 6 center, but there's nothing to date to suggest that's not the case.
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I didn't "play with the stats." The stats are what they are.

Honestly, the more you share the deeper you are digging (IMO).

I can appreciate questioning the likelihood of hitting his ceiling or not being your favourite prospect. Hell I can even accept someone thinking a bottom 6er is the "most likely" outcome but to suggest "there's nothing to date to suggest he's not a bottom 6er" is a wild take. I question if you have ever watched him if that's your evaluation

His per game production is better at every level than a guy you are praising. The eye test clearly shows a high level of skill (among the highest in our system) and skating. There are absolutely indicators that he can be more than a bottom 6er. Will it happen? I don't know but again, claiming "there is nothing to suggest he can be more than a bottom 6er" is flat out egregious.
 
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1) Nate Danielson
2) Trey Augustine
3) Carter Bear
4) Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
5) Sebastian Cossa
6) Max Plante
7) Anton Johansson
8) Eddie Genborg
9) Michal Postava
10) Carter Mazur

I have criticisms in favour and against Danielson and Cossa each:

Danielson is an NHL player. It really looked to me like the coaching staff was killing his confidence after a while... There was zero reason not to keep him around, throw him on the wing, and play him at PP2. Instead, they got impatient, and saddled him with garbage or struggling wingers expecting something out of a guy with 1/4 of a season of NHL experience. Yes, expectations of him are high, but I maintain 28 games was not enough of a sample size to determine his worth on Detroit. I bet he was playing with the "not to screw up" mentality, much like what Soderblom had spoken of. Then you send him back down to the AHL, a goon league, where he has NOTHING MORE TO PROVE, and he gets injured 14 games later and misses the remainder of the season with a worrisome injury. Tonnes of development time lost there

Danielson could have stood to be more aggressive, consistently. He looked fine, and then looked more and more timid. Gee wonder why that might have been? But... He was literally getting his feet wet, and still scored at a similar pace to Dvorsky of the Blues in the NHL. Big difference between the two is that they put Dvorsky in favourable positions to succeed and DD scored 12 goals. Why the F did Kasper and Finnie keep getting shots at top 6 LW when Danielson did not? I will die on this hill until Danielson plays a half season in the NHL next year to see how he is really trending

They f***ed it with Cossa. Call him up in December, let him back up Gibson as you waived Talbot who sucked. That's all they had to do. Instead GR came down from their high, and Cossa began to falter and lose focus, showing a lack of mental fortitude falling into bad habits. Then losing the crease to an AHL rookie goaltender for the entirety of the playoffs was the cherry on top, hence why he's fallen on my list

However, Cossa needed to... Play better, consistently. Dominate the rest of the AHL season, stand on your head, and then I'm sure you're backing up Gibson in the NHL next year
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Let me say I hope you are right and will happily admit I was wrong if/when that day comes. I just look at how Elite Prospects viewed him in his draft class and they pretty much nailed it.

I get that we like to blame the coaches or management when a prospect doesn't live up to how we've built them up in our minds - that could happen with me regarding Eddie Genborg - but more often than not I think the player simply isn't able to handle that next step up in their development. This is why our North American scouts having such a strong interest in solid positional guys with little offensive skill at the junior level who cannot produce at the NHL level gets very old. It's the same thing, draft after draft after draft.
 
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Danielson was a creator of rush offence, building speed beneath the puck, charging through the neutral zone with possession, carving the ice up with powerful, agile crossovers, and turning the corner on opposing defenceman. Equal parts natural speed as a skater and handling skill made that a relatively effective signature move for the Wheat Kings centre. -EliteProspects 2023 NHL Draft Guide
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Ya this doesn't sound like they were calling him a surefire bottom 6er.
 
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I didn't "play with the stats." The stats are what they are.

Honestly, the more you share the deeper you are digging (IMO).

I can appreciate questioning the likelihood of hitting his ceiling or not being your favourite prospect. Hell I can even accept someone thinking a bottom 6er is the "most likely" outcome but to suggest "there's nothing to date to suggest he's not a bottom 6er" is a wild take. I question if you have ever watched him if that's your evaluation

His per game production is better at every level than a guy you are praising. The eye test clearly shows a high level of skill (among the highest in our system) and skating. There are absolutely indicators that he can be more than a bottom 6er. Will it happen? I don't know but again, claiming "there is nothing to suggest he can be more than a bottom 6er" is flat out egregious.
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Listen, we disagree. For some reason you are getting a bit emotional over a difference of opinion. I've seen Danielson in the NHL, I have taken quotes from Elite Prospects and from Scott Wheeler that fit my perception of him. You have an 18 game sample size. That's fine, we simply disagree.

I don't think you are going to convince me based on Danielson's career to date, but I promise to maintain an open mind and will happily admit if my take is wrong.

I have been critical of Cossa, which has upset many here. I've called for Dylan Larkin to move on which has upset many more people. I'm not the slightest bit concerned with disagreements, but I'm also not changing my opinion based on what I've seen. Add in the fact I have organizations and people who cover scouting for a living whose opinions match fairly closely with mine and I'm sorry, but the small sample size isn't going to sway me.

But I will maintain an open mind.
 
Run the Jewels said:
Listen, we disagree. For some reason you are getting a bit emotional over a difference of opinion. I've seen Danielson in the NHL, I have taken quotes from Elite Prospects and from Scott Wheeler that fit my perception of him. You have an 18 game sample size. That's fine, we simply disagree.

I don't think you are going to convince me based on Danielson's career to date, but I promise to maintain an open mind and will happily admit if my take is wrong.

I have been critical of Cossa, which has upset many here. I've called for Dylan Larkin to move on which has upset many more people. I'm not the slightest bit concerned with disagreements, but I'm also not changing my opinion based on what I've seen. Add in the fact I have organizations and people who cover scouting for a living whose opinions match fairly closely with mine and I'm sorry, but the small sample size isn't going to sway me.

But I will maintain an open mind.
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Except Wheeler didn't call him a bottom 6er. He called him a top 9er. And then he ranked him above guys you like more. So you're not accurate or consistent in how you leverage his opinion.

Im not a premium subscriber to EP but their public scouting report doesn't sound like a bottom 6 guy either:
Danielson was a creator of rush offence, building speed beneath the puck, charging through the neutral zone with possession, carving the ice up with powerful, agile crossovers, and turning the corner on opposing defenceman. Equal parts natural speed as a skater and handling skill made that a relatively effective signature move for the Wheat Kings centre. -EliteProspects 2023 NHL Draft Guide
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So when you say you have quotes I don't know what you are talking about. Also, how do you pick which quotes you care about? Pronman had this to say about him:
He has excellent one-on-one skills, he skates well and his ability to create chances in transition will make him dangerous in the NHL. He’s a strong passer and shooter who can make a lot of things happen inside the offensive zone.
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Look man, we all get our own opinions, it's what makes discussing hockey fun. But the conclusions you're drawing don't align to what I have seen in his game or read about the guy.

Oh and for the record, it's not an 18 game sample size he outproduced MBN, its 45 :thumbu:

Like I said earlier, I can understand people questioning the likelihood of reaching his ceiling, or preferring a different prospect. Where Red Wings fans lose me is when they rank him that low and/or suggest that Danielson doesn't have a solid ceiling in the first place.
 
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Run the Jewels said:
I wrote a long article on the current state of the project pool, here's the link if you want to read it.

If you want the TL;DR version, here it is:

10. Rudy Guimond, G
9. Amadeus Lombardi, F
8. Nate Danielson, C
7. Anton Johansson, RD
6. Carter Bear, LW
5. Eddie Genborg, F
4. Michal Postava, G
3. Michael Brandsegg-Nygård, RW
2. Trey Augustine, G
1. Max Plante, LW

Let's see your top 10 list.
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Id switch MBN and Plante. Do you think ASP is no longer should be in here?
 
This is my last post on the current Nate Danielson discussion. These are all direct quotes from EP scouts/writers who watched Danielson and made projections on him in the lead up to his draft.

Mitchell Brown (March 18, 2023 scouting report)
'But he still seems more like a 3C than a top 6 forward...I can't justify having him inside the top 15 or even top 20 based on what I've seen this season.'

David St Louis (March 17, 2023 scouting report)
'His best offense seems to be self-generated with carries like this, which is not at all that translatable to the NHL. He's speedy but not an elite rusher that could pull off some of these plays consistently in the top league.'

JD Burke (March 12, 2023 scouting report)
'I'm having a hard time getting excited about Danielson as a prospect. It just seems like he's already playing at the upper limit of his skill set, and it's not really that impressive at this level as is. Looks like an early second rounder to me.'

David St Louis (February 14, 2023 scouting report)
'He could keep the same play style in the NHL and earn a career in the bottom six, but I'd like to see more from him, more creativity, before penciling him as a future middle-six center. It's a role he could play, but the only quality I see that he could really leverage is his defensive game. I'd draft him between 20-35.'

Do they say some nice things about Danielson? Of course they do, but these are the money quotes that sum up who they think he is and where they would likely select him.
 
I think this group of players is pretty hard to stack rank.

I think Cossa is a top 10 prospect for us, but I’m not going to list him given there is a lot of discussion that he’s on his way out.
  1. Plante
  2. Bear
  3. MBN
  4. Augustine
  5. Danielson
  6. Postava
  7. Genborg
  8. Johansson
  9. Lombardi
  10. Mazur/Wallinder

If MBN showed something at the NHL level, I’d have him 1. Still impressed by what he did this year, and am higher on him than I was a year ago.
 
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I think this group of players is pretty hard to stack rank.

I think Cossa is a top 10 prospect for us, but I’m not going to list him given there is a lot of discussion that he’s on his way out.
  1. Plante
  2. Bear
  3. MBN
  4. Augustine
  5. Danielson
  6. Postava
  7. Genborg
  8. Johansson
  9. Lombardi
  10. Mazur/Wallinder

If MBN showed something at the NHL level, I’d have him 1. Still impressed by what he did this year, and am higher on him than I was a year ago.
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Good list. The guys where I don't have a high level of confidence (as of today) on their roles in the NHL are Postava, Lombardi and Wallinder.

For a top 10 list, that's really not bad at all. I can see why people like Scott Wheeler rank our prospect pool where they do.
 
Run the Jewels said:
I wrote a long article on the current state of the project pool, here's the link if you want to read it.

If you want the TL;DR version, here it is:

10. Rudy Guimond, G
9. Amadeus Lombardi, F
8. Nate Danielson, C
7. Anton Johansson, RD
6. Carter Bear, LW
5. Eddie Genborg, F
4. Michal Postava, G
3. Michael Brandsegg-Nygård, RW
2. Trey Augustine, G
1. Max Plante, LW

Let's see your top 10 list.
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I read the article -- holy shit that was comprehensive. And well-written, and convincing.

Had I made my top 10 before reading your article, I would have had it more like this:

1) Bear
2) MBN (if he still counts as a prospect -- he's pretty much a player now, I think)
3) Augustine
4) Danielson
5) Anton Johansson
6) Lombardi
7) Plante
8) Genborg
9) Mazur
10) Wallinder

That's if we're not counting Cossa and ASP as prospects anymore, of course.

But now that I've read your article -- nope your list is good.
 
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