Prospect Info: Tom Willander: 11th Overall 2023 Draft (Rogle BK J20) - Part 02

[Diversification]

sorry this is beyond me. Where is the humour in a spelling mistake. I have tremors and misspell all the time.

A whelp is a young pup. It's also an antiquated, derisive term to describe a young man.

 

[Raistlin]

They wouldn't be the main part of the trade... most likely the first is.

It is rare a propsect like Willander gets traded for a player. Its not like it never happens, but it is rare.

Faber was traded for Fiala recently. otherwise a top D prospect generally gets traded prospect for prospect

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

If this is actually due to 200k

I’m done with this team under Franky

 

[ChilliBilly]

A whelp is a young pup. It's also an antiquated, derisive term to describe a young man.

ahhh fair enough never heard it as a person.

 

[Breakers]

If this is actually due to 200k

I’m done with this team under Franky

It is wild the stances this idiot takes on spending for his pride and joy

is on record saying the money should stay on the ice and that why he wont pay coaches
(then proceeds to pay 3 coaches at the same time)

schedule A's are all of sudden some stand they are taking when they have a very small cap, and him reaching them is a good thing.

 

[Raistlin]

If this is actually due to 200k

I’m done with this team under Franky

its not like we have a glowing front office, with how many holes they are creating with self inflicted gunshots. now being pennywise and pound foolish?

Last year it was having all the requisite stalwarts in 2x 1Cs 1D and 1G. a strong coaching staff and Ian Clarke winning the division. now they have alienated Clarke, about to let Tocchet's team go, traded a 1C and a top pick for a top4D that may actually be blocking a promising prospect....1G is broken, publicly haranguing EP for no reason and not signing their top prospect.

 

[Jyrki21]

I don't understand how Aquilini, an investor, doesn't understand investment. Is he not familiar with the concept of return on said investment?

Even the idea of "paying guys not to play/coach" is such an arbitrary thing to oppose. Those are sunk costs, they are just part of running an organization. Why would he be more aggravated with spending the same money on a non-coaching coach vs. on a bad fourth liner if the end result is better that way? Imagine buying a worse car than a better one for a similar price because you disagreed with the value allocated to the hubcaps for, like, WTO purposes.

 

[credulous]

I don't understand how Aquilini, an investor, doesn't understand investment. Is he not familiar with the concept of return on said investment?

Even the idea of "paying guys not to play/coach" is such an arbitrary thing to oppose. Those are sunk costs, they are just part of running an organization. Why would he be more aggravated with spending the same money on a non-coaching coach vs. on a bad fourth liner if the end result is better that way? Imagine buying a worse car than a better one for a similar price because you disagreed with the value allocated to the hubcaps for, like, WTO purposes.

he's not an investor. he's the chairman of the canucks to keep him away from the actual money making parts of the business. roberto and paolo are the ones running the hospitality and construction businesses

 

[Nucky]

I don't understand how Aquilini, an investor, doesn't understand investment. Is he not familiar with the concept of return on said investment?

Even the idea of "paying guys not to play/coach" is such an arbitrary thing to oppose. Those are sunk costs, they are just part of running an organization. Why would he be more aggravated with spending the same money on a non-coaching coach vs. on a bad fourth liner if the end result is better that way? Imagine buying a worse car than a better one for a similar price because you disagreed with the value allocated to the hubcaps for, like, WTO purposes.

The guy has owned this team for decades and hasn’t invested in a practice facility and there’s no signs that he will anytime soon so I don’t think he understands the concept of ROI

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

This is the f***ing dumbest shit ever. Just get him signed you fat blueberry f***, and build one less apartment in your next building.

 

[Vector]

I don't understand how Aquilini, an investor, doesn't understand investment. Is he not familiar with the concept of return on said investment?

Even the idea of "paying guys not to play/coach" is such an arbitrary thing to oppose. Those are sunk costs, they are just part of running an organization. Why would he be more aggravated with spending the same money on a non-coaching coach vs. on a bad fourth liner if the end result is better that way? Imagine buying a worse car than a better one for a similar price because you disagreed with the value allocated to the hubcaps for, like, WTO purposes.

To answer your first question, Francesco doesn’t actually do anything important in the family businesses and is given the vanity projects. The others do but the Canucks aren’t actually where they focus their attention.

 

[VanJack]

This is the f***ing dumbest shit ever. Just get him signed you fat blueberry f***, and build one less apartment in your next building.

I've been as critical of Aquilini as an owner, but does he really have anything to do with the decision of the front office on signing a kid to entry-level contract?

This is really all on Allvin and Rutherford. Clearly, they're digging their heels in on something. Still, it would be extremely disappointing if he isn't signed by training camp in September. And from every report, he'll be attending the annual Canucks Development Camp, which takes place a week after the draft in June.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I've been as critical of Aquilini as an owner, but does he really have anything to do with the decision of the front office on signing a kid to entry-level contract?

Same.

This is really all on Allvin and Rutherford. Clearly, they're digging their heels in on something. Still, it would be extremely disappointing if he isn't signed by training camp in September. And from every report, he'll be attending the annual Canucks Development Camp, which takes place a week after the draft in June.

This is what I think as well.

This is caused by some internal cap principle heel duggery.

 

[VIPettersson]

To answer your first question, Francesco doesn’t actually do anything important in the family businesses and is given the vanity projects. The others do but the Canucks aren’t actually where they focus their attention.

so hes the fredo?

 

[ManVanFan]

 

[Raistlin]

of course its the guy signing these paycheques that has the final say. so wtf is this ownership doing???

 

[terrierguy11]

“College hockey is sick. It’s a lot of fun. You’re all the same age and living with each other, just you and the boys having fun every day of the week. It’s a good league, but you can still feel that it isn’t pro yet.”

That sounds like a player that looks at the NCAA as part of his past, not his future. Does he believe he has outgrown what college hockey can provide moving forward?

“Yeah, I do," Willander said. "A little bit, anyway. I don’t think I’m in any way too good for the league. But thinking about optimizing development, I don’t know if that’s what I need. It might not be the perfect spot for me anymore.”

A quote from the article, makes me think he is going to go the SHL path if he cannot get a NHL deal signed by next season. I still think it is highly unlikely he does not sign his ELC, with the Canucks or somebody else. All the buzz at BU was that they never expected him to come back, even before the SHL stuff started.

 

[wonton15]

It’s so bizarre and I still can’t believe they’re messing around with their top prospect over bonuses. We are screwed for as long as ownership is here.

 

[iFan]

It’s really annoying they’re doing this. You want him to be excited about joining the Canucks, he’s put in the work and has improved year after year. This just looks bad, silly, stupid and ridiculous on the owner and management group.

 

[nowhereman]

When was the last time this happened with a top prospect? Umberger? People are quick to blame FA but I really don't think he's in there instructing management to play hardball with their shiny new toy. This feels like another Alvin/Rutherford debacle. These guys have pretty much burnt all of the good will they earned after last year's season.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

It’s so bizarre and I still can’t believe they’re messing around with their top prospect over bonuses. We are screwed for as long as ownership is here.

At least the "ooh this is evil Van media making something out of nothing" crowd can just stop now.

 

[LordBacon]

You guys clearly don’t understand,
How would Francesco - the millionaire, be able to financially recover from the extra $200,000.00 USD spent?

 

[rypper]

This whole situation is bizarre and I want it to make sense.

 

[Vector]

This whole situation is bizarre and I want it to make sense.

I find it very upsetting. On the surface it seems very silly. Digging deeper it looks even dumber.

The best I can make of it is that two sides have drawn a line in the sand.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I find it very upsetting. On the surface it seems very surface. Digging deeper it looks even dumber.

The best I can make of it is that two sides have drawn a line in the sand.

Willander is selfish and putting himself before the team. It's probably best to trade him right now for a crappy return before he becomes a negative asset.








Is that what you want me to think JR/Allvin??? HUH?????