Prospect Info: Tom Willander: 11th Overall 2023 Draft (Rogle BK J20) - Part 02
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I don't think the canucks are going to break the prospect bank to get a center. I think they are far more likely to re-sign Suter and try to nab someone from the free agent market (Duchene, Nelson, 18yr old Sam Bennett....).
Certainly I think moving young D-men like EP2 and Willander will be very far down the list of things to consider in order to address center ice.
Certainly I think moving young D-men like EP2 and Willander will be very far down the list of things to consider in order to address center ice.
I don't know that does much in terms of winning with Quinn though for next season.
But, if you are doing prospect for prospect, that's the reality. I doubt you can count on Chytil's health with multiple concussions.
Buffalo needs help now. Not sure they can keep banking on prospects/youngsters.
That's something Van needs to balance. It's like a 1 year thing to get back to the PO and show enough to convince Quinn to stay.
i was gonna say their best bet to get a center is probably at the trade deadline next season but it's really not. the only good cs likely to be available are hayes, schmaltz and jg pageau. also trying to limp to the deadline with a subpar roster and fix it then with rentals is what sunk this season so i don't think they'll have much appetite to do it again
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If I had to pick who to trade between Dpetey and Willander that would be a very tough call for me. Overall DPetey has to be more expendable due to side.
Him alone could bring that top line center.........Dpetey would take him and a 1st plus to get a first line center I think and I envision him as being almost every bit as valuable in his own way as Willander. (NGL I LOVE the fact he crushes people as he's a BIG dude who can throw his weight. I've still got a hard on from when he destroyed Kadri.........That was great too bad our team never dummied Zary).
So yeah I would hate to lose either.........Willander would appear to have a higher ceiling but I can envision them both being Quality top 4 players for a LONG TIME.......the nice thing being both are not ever gonna be the type to demand massive money most likely as they are Defence first players........which is great for us.
unless we're willing to take on someone else's reclamation project (ie. kirby dach) for cheap, don't see it either. similar to how guentzel was prime target #1 last year, i think sam bennett could be that fixation if he makes it to free agency.
but... if they get certainty later in the summer that hughes is more likely to stay than go, i'm still pretty convinced that ep2 is the only expendable piece available to get *another* high-end/elite forward.
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Ya I could see that being the case with Suter and I can't argue. Also once a trader always a trader don't forgot our JR is not afraid to pull the trigger - I could easily see Garland a first and a top 5 prospect going out the window for a C. If i had to guess he would be the guy with the most value that the team could move on from.
And I agree completely I would like that to be option F etc. There are other moves to make before that happens......
i feel like everyone has different idea for what that actually means.. from what Quinn talked about, it seems like it's about having the right culture and having an upward trajectory vs, we need to be the deepest team in the league and killing everyone.
I agree. Although the part that is interesting with this is what veteran you move. Because, 100%, the best thing to do is allow the young defensemen to push the older defensemen out, as they are more cap efficient and you will receive assets for the older defensemen. But, Myers, won't waive his trade protection, so that leaves you with Hughes, Hronek and MPetey. I can't see either Hughes or Hronek being traded, and MPetey was just recently acquired and re-signed.
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I think you'd be looking at a younger C playing behind quality C depth with perhaps room to grow into a 2C if given more opportunities. Perhaps a player like a Cole Sillinger playing behind Jenner, Fantilli and Johnson, could shake loose.
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Verbeek seems like a absolute nightmare to deal with if you are not Stevey Y
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I really think that team needs to rebuild. Roy is tracking to be the next Torts.
I wonder if Kadri could be had.
I posted a couple of weeks ago that a great buy low (relatively) center candidate is Peyton Krebs.
He can kill penalties, is reliable defensively and has added a feisty shit disturber element to his game…
…he’s on a great contract for 1 more season.
The ‘get me the hell out of Buffalo’ wild card is also in play.
Since I posted that he’s put up 3 goals and 3 assists in his last 5 games. Hopefully he will go quiet the rest of the season.
The risk is low and the reward high. I’d love to see us acquire him.
He can kill penalties, is reliable defensively and has added a feisty shit disturber element to his game…
…he’s on a great contract for 1 more season.
The ‘get me the hell out of Buffalo’ wild card is also in play.
Since I posted that he’s put up 3 goals and 3 assists in his last 5 games. Hopefully he will go quiet the rest of the season.
The risk is low and the reward high. I’d love to see us acquire him.
They are too pot committed to rebuild. Pelech, Pulloch. Bo, Barzal, Mayfield, Sorokin are signed for term. Lee and JGP have 1 year left. Dobson/Romanov are 25. Really no prospects after trading so many between Dobson to their 24 pick.
They’d have to fire Lou and hand the next GM a 6-7 year contract to buy him the security to tear it down. Cause there isn’t much in the system, especially up front.
I don’t expect there will be a huge need to move anyone e for the next two seasons. Plenty of ice to go around for the 3 younger guys and spot call ups for farm hands. But if it does, players waive all the time they f they have fallen out of the lineup.
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Aside from Schenn and Sillinger, none of the others are centers anymore. Even Sillinger has lined up as a winger recently. Norris is also about as injury-prone as Chytil, just on a bigger and longer term contract, its probably best we avoided him.
He is about the only realistic target I would (very very reluctantly) trade TW for. And management better be damn sure Macini can at least be a decent bottom-pairing D to do this trade, because our RSD is very very weak whenever Hronek gets hurt.
But Kulich is a legit top 6C that fits our core, so we might have to pull the trigger if that trade is available. I'm not sure why Buffalo would do it though, they do need a RSD but not a rookie that might need AHL seasoning?
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I probably need to refresh my memory. Barzal is not a C anymore? I remember everyone in STL was a C once I dont know who is a full time C there anymore other than Thomas.
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Barzal has mostly played wing since Horvat arrived, and more effective there anyways. As far as I know Buch has never been a C?
