Ryan Van Horne
aka Scribe
we agree on that atleast. There is a reason why SEL had the most NHL stars during the lockout.
Yeah. Swedish twins -- and I don't mean the Sedins.
we agree on that atleast. There is a reason why SEL had the most NHL stars during the lockout.
Before this tournament, all I heard was Backstrom this and Backstrom that. Now that we've seen both in action and at the same level of competition, it is clear that Toews is the better of the two. He doesn't get anywhere near the hype of Backstrom even though he just wins, wherever he plays.
As for the posters who claim that Toews has been very average for North Dakota, I challenge you to tell me how many times you've actually seen him play this year. Their games aren't on regular satellite.
And finally, anybody that suggests that Forsberg is greater than Sakic doesn't know ****. Sakic is another guy that simply wins wherever he plays. The same can't be said of Forsberg.
Fixed.Before this tournament, all I heard was Backstrom this and Backstrom that. Now that we've seen both in action and at the same level of competition, it is clear for me that Toews is the better of the two.
Poor Backstrom, he is 19 and recently he only won the senior WorldChampionship.. what a definite loser..He doesn't get anywhere near the hype of Backstrom even though he just wins, wherever he plays.
oh yes, Forsberg won OlympicS and Stanley cups, but his ones don't count i guess..And finally, anybody that suggests that Forsberg is greater than Sakic doesn't know ****. Sakic is another guy that simply wins wherever he plays. The same can't be said of Forsberg.
On the other hand, Backstrom was a key cog in Sweden's OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL winning team, put in key situations as that tournament went on.
On the other hand, Backstrom was a key cog in Sweden's OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL winning team, put in key situations as that tournament went on.
As for the posters who claim that Toews has been very average for North Dakota, I challenge you to tell me how many times you've actually seen him play this year. Their games aren't on regular satellite.
And finally, anybody that suggests that Forsberg is greater than Sakic doesn't know ****. Sakic is another guy that simply wins wherever he plays. The same can't be said of Forsberg.
Amazing
ok....wherever he plays? Uh.....can you list me all these teams he has won with?
Toews "arguably" outplayed Backstrom in one tournament in which he was surrounded by far more overall talent. (Bergfors and Berglund were awful).
I dont know who is/will be better....and have seen very little of either....but I have to ask you, how many times have you seen Backstrom play this year? Seems like a fair question since you are "challenging" those that feel different than you, and have asked them the same question
There's something to be said in this thread for selective memory.
Toews "arguably" outplayed Backstrom in one tournament in which he was surrounded by far more overall talent. (Bergfors and Berglund were awful).
On the other hand, Backstrom was a key cog in Sweden's OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL winning team, put in key situations as that tournament went on.
Then the simple fact that short tourneys are a historically bad drawing pool for player v player comparisons.
I think the argument leans towards Backstrom v Staal, if anything.
Who are the far more talented players Toews is surrounded by (I'm assuming you mean his linemates?)
2 stanley cups with Colorado
Olympic Gold, World Championship Gold, WJC Gold and World Cup of Hockey Gold with Canada
I`m guessing that none of us (that are defending Toews) have seen Backstrom play in the SEL. The difference is that we are not making statements about his play in the SEL either. It seems that there are many on this thread who have been bashing Toews` play at North Dakota without ever having seen him play there or without knowing his situation. That is the problem.
And finally, anybody that suggests that Forsberg is greater than Sakic doesn't know ****. Sakic is another guy that simply wins wherever he plays. The same can't be said of Forsberg.
Who are the far more talented players Toews is surrounded by (I'm assuming you mean his linemates?)
And finally, anybody that suggests that Forsberg is greater than Sakic doesn't know ****. Sakic is another guy that simply wins wherever he plays. The same can't be said of Forsberg.
2001.