DisgruntledHawkFan
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We have the greatest face off man of all time on staff already. We need to have actual centers instead of wingers.
Toews goes on Healing Journey
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ChiHawks10
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Right. Like... there are no centers on this team. Wingers aren't going to win draws against regular NHL centers...
How often do you actually see that greatest face off man of all time working with the players? Bedard should have a session scheduled with him every day until he improves... Honestly, the level of incompetence this organization is showing me with their handling of Bedard has me worried for the future. He's being put in positions to fail.
This has been a theme with young players now for the last few seasons, as well. It's alarming.
This has been a theme with young players now for the last few seasons, as well. It's alarming.
Malaka
you know, **** it, let’s just not think so much
Chelios
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If you follow the beat writers they post videos of Perrault working with the guys all the time. But of course that would not fit your narrative.
Malaka
you know, **** it, let’s just not think so much
Posted this several times here for those that want to get a perspective of Toews as an intellectual in his prime.
But yes holistic medicine is for the most part useless as tits on a bull, and Aubrey Marcus is a complete bellend bordering nefarious grifter — this is regardless one of my favorite podcasts ever.
But yes holistic medicine is for the most part useless as tits on a bull, and Aubrey Marcus is a complete bellend bordering nefarious grifter — this is regardless one of my favorite podcasts ever.
They interviewed Dickinson and asked him about it, I believe last season, and he said he had only spent 15-20 minutes with him.
Chelios
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You were specifically talking about Bedard. I have seen numerous videos of Bedard working at faceoffs with Perrault just this year.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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That makes some sense because he was the one guy on the team that was league average at them last year.
Perreault was incredible at face offs but he used a monstrosity of a stick in order to win them at the clip he did. I'm not certain how much of it really translates.
ClydeLee
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It was Kruger working with him that took Kruger from bad to great.
Beat reporters or whoever would post clups on twitter about it, the only loss of not going to that site i have is how much hockey clips or data was what I looked at.
Chelios
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Chicago was absolutely blessed for having guys like Toews, Keith and Seabrook. The hockey universe's stars aligned just right when these guys entered the league around the same time. Other players that held great leadership and mentor roles like Sharp and Hossa just solidified the gold-standard for professionalism on and off the ice.
Crazy to look back and realize how mature the roster leadership was for their ages. They impacted every rostered player of each year. I'm a firm believer that guys like Buff, Steeger, Ladd, Hjalm, Bickell, Kruger, Leddy and so on - don't have the kind of career success they did without the leadership and guidance of Toews, Keith, Seabrook.
Hell, I'll even go as far as guys like Kane. On a different team, surrounded by different leadership, he might have never played to his potential or exited the "party boy phase".
That's the biggest difference I see in regards to the bolded. The young guys just don't have anyone in remote comparison to guide them. No disrespect or discredit to Foligno, but he's no Toews. Seth f***ing Jones? He couldn't hold Michal Rozsival's jock in relation to leadership. Dickinson and Murphy appear to be great on-ice leaders, but don't carry the same aura as guys like Sharp and Hossa.
Unless Bedard can pull a McDavid and change the direction by himself, I don't feel too confident with this team - long nor short term. Sad times. I gotta stop watching the glory days on YT.
Toews2Bickell
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I'll never understand why Davidson went from lets have the next leadership group be led by kids to lets have journeymen vets be our captain/alternates...I mean wtf, you just got Bedard, hold off...Foligno is a great teammate/co-worker, cool, every player in the league would be for 4x market rate on their salary...if they were going to move on from Toews and Kane they should've stuck with the plan and let the kids become the next leaders of the team, why the hell should we or any kid on that team care what a career 4th liner says about losing every night, clear the deck again of these washed vets any way possible so that Bedard, Vlasic, Nazar etc have a chance to become the guys/voices of the next wave like the opportunities in 07-08 were afforded to the players from the glory days
KD pulled the whole "yeah were going to tear down this house and build a new one" followed by removing the old materials and buying new, but old and used materials, lol.
Chelios
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Sorry, wasn’t keeping track of exactly how many times it popped up in my feed.
But you are right, those instances were probably the only instances that Perrault worked with Bedard, they just made sure to have someone video it. It couldn’t be that you are just looking for things to complain about regarding the coaching staff and have to shoehorn it in to every thread.
Kaners PPGs
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Gotta admit. I am getting some Rodgers vibes here. Granted, Toews always seemed smarter so he probably doesn't have the same political views.
hockeydoug
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Because he's a very new and inexperienced gm who is learning way too much on the fly.
I gave him credit for the massive shift over the summer, looked to me like he looked in the mirror and said "what the F&^% am I doing with this rebuild?".
Credit to him for learning, but he's got a pile of giant mistakes to work through yet.
Bowman had lots of senior hockey and sports people above him, and that dad guy, so when he was young he had some guidance. KD has Faulkner and an owner that made whiskey with his frat buddies or something.
Anyway, back on topic. I hope Toews gets better.
I wonder what snakeoil neutraceuticals Toews will be selling in the coming years. Hope he gets better. AI may be the end of us, but at least they should debunk most of this alternative medicine stuff soon enough.
Toews2Bickell
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could also be someone in denial about their health condition being chronic and he doesn't want to accept that as fact yet, perhaps not happy with the answers being given so hes exploring untraditional routes to fix it
