Value of: Toews @50% + Kubalik to COL

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Meanwhile, Devon probably just dreading the inevitable addition of a "D." to the back of his jersey.

Would the NHL let him have "The better Toews"?

 

[Freaky Styley]

I agree that Burakovsky will likely get better offers elsewhere, but I'm still hoping both he and Nuke will take a little less to stick around for a little longer and win, because replacing 2/3 (or all) of the 2nd line isn't going to be easy.

I don't agree that being a less bad idea than overpaying for Trochek or Kadri makes this is a good idea. It's just less bad. But, you are right; we will probably need to settle for a less bad option if there's no better options out there and the better options that are affordable aren't exactly abundant. But, that doesn't mean I need to like being forced to apply a cheap stop-gap fix, even in the short term.

Personally I won't miss Burakovsky. Like I am in this thread I've been harping that Kubalik would be a seamless replacement at a fraction of the cost. Outside chance Olausson could even slide into his role.

That's a fair stance, but I still think you're underrating Toews based on this season. I think he can still be quite an effective 2nd line C in the Danault mold and getting out of the spotlight and tire-fire of Chicago can only be good for him. Especially with auto-immune disorders, most of those are due to stress/environment than a tangible cause. I have no delusions he's going to regain form, but there's no reason he can't chip in 40-50 points while being very defensibly responsible and providing those #intangibles

 

[franste Perreault]

Result on ice will decide what Sakic will do this summer.
For sure Kadri is gone
Burakovski is gone
Resign Lehkonen Nichushkin Kubel Sturm
Manson depend how he play in playoff
If Colorado win the Stanley Cup this year probably Sakic will try to move Kadri and Burakovski right at the draft for pick or right on RFA that he think he can sign before free agency day

 

[John Mandalorian]

What kind of stupidity is this? Toews at 50% has value. Yet you offer absolute filth in return. No one would take EJ
Or JTC’s bloated contracts and Kaut is a bust.

Hawks laugh.

What's with your Compher obsession? You must search his name every 5 minutes.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Personally I won't miss Burakovsky. Like I am in this thread I've been harping that Kubalik would be a seamless replacement at a fraction of the cost. Outside chance Olausson could even slide into his role.

That's a fair stance, but I still think you're underrating Toews based on this season. I think he can still be quite an effective 2nd line C in the Danault mold and getting out of the spotlight and tire-fire of Chicago can only be good for him. Especially with auto-immune disorders, most of those are due to stress/environment than a tangible cause. I have no delusions he's going to regain form, but there's no reason he can't chip in 40-50 points while being very defensibly responsible and providing those #intangibles

I agree that Kubalik could be a good replacement for Burakovsky. But, the whole reason he could potentially be available on a "prove it" deal is because his production has declined since his 30 goal rookie season, so it's not without some risk. If Chicago doesn't qualify him and we can sign him for ~$3m AAV as a UFA, then I think there's enough upside that the risk is well worth it.

As for Toews, I don't really disagree that he could plausibly chip in 40-50 points and be a defensively responsible 2/3C. But, is that really worth $5.25m in cap space plus whatever assets are needed to acquire him? Or, is there someone out there who could plausibly provide similar contributions that wouldn't cost so much, allowing more cap space to address the other holes in the roster?

 

[Freaky Styley]

I agree that Kubalik could be a good replacement for Burakovsky. But, the whole reason he could potentially be available on a "prove it" deal is because his production has declined since his 30 goal rookie season, so it's not without some risk. If Chicago doesn't qualify him and we can sign him for ~$3m AAV as a UFA, then I think there's enough upside that the risk is well worth it.

As for Toews, I don't really disagree that he could plausibly chip in 40-50 points and be a defensively responsible 2/3C. But, is that really worth $5.25m in cap space plus whatever assets are needed to acquire him? Or, is there someone out there who could plausibly provide similar contributions that wouldn't cost so much, allowing more cap space to address the other holes in the roster?

For 1 year, given his resume? I think so. If there are other options that cost less, allow for cap flexibility in 2023 and still contribute just as much/more, I'm all ears

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I agree that Kubalik could be a good replacement for Burakovsky. But, the whole reason he could potentially be available on a "prove it" deal is because his production has declined since his 30 goal rookie season, so it's not without some risk. If Chicago doesn't qualify him and we can sign him for ~$3m AAV as a UFA, then I think there's enough upside that the risk is well worth it.

As for Toews, I don't really disagree that he could plausibly chip in 40-50 points and be a defensively responsible 2/3C. But, is that really worth $5.25m in cap space plus whatever assets are needed to acquire him? Or, is there someone out there who could plausibly provide similar contributions that wouldn't cost so much, allowing more cap space to address the other holes in the roster?

Kubalik scored fewer goals in 2021 but he was on pace for a 25 G, 55 pt season which was actually just about the same as his first year where he scored 30 goals.

This is really his first crappy season, he was the same guy his other two years and his shooting percentage is significantly lower than his first two seasons.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

For 1 year, given his resume? I think so. If there are other options that cost less, allow for cap flexibility in 2023 and still contribute just as much/more, I'm all ears

For one year, maybe $5.25m isn't that bad, assuming he doesn't fall off a cliff. But, it still comes down to what he's going to cost to acquire. Would Chicago really retain 50% to only get Compher+ back in return? If so, then it's a minimal risk. But, if it's something better than Compher as the main piece? That's where I'm not so sure.

And, I don't know if there are any better options out there this year, because the UFA market for 2Cs does seem to be pretty sparse. I was really hoping we'd trade for JT Miller at the TDL to address that need, but that obviously didn't happen. Hopefully someone unexpected will hit the market, and Sakic will be able to work some more of his magic.