Proposal: To The Victor Go The Oils: EDM + BUF

[Perennial]

To Edmonton: Olofsson (50% retained), Miller (50% retained), Anderson/Dell

To Buffalo: Bouchard, Koskinen


Edmonton add an offensive winger and a veteran RD in their prime, plus their choice of Anderson or Dell to serve as back-up or 3rd stringer

Buffalo get a young RD prospect with upside for their rebuild, while Koskinen gives them a warm body to play goal this season


NOTE: Turris and Eakin could also be included at Edmonton's discretion

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[Bunch of Jurcos]

10/10 thread title.

 

[LongWayDown37]

Buffalo is in absolutely no position to trade away an offensive talent like Olofsson

 

[Chayos]

No chance from the oil.

 

[PuckG]

Bouchard is not available.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Dell for Koskinen. Buffalo will even retain half of Dell’s contract.

 

[member 334057]

Olofsson is probably the only guy on the team the Sabres can count on for around 20 goals, can't see them trading him right now. As bad as they will be they still need to score occasionally to keep fans attending games.

Doesn't mean Bouchard isn't worth the trade, just don't believe this really fits with either teams needs that well.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

I'd do that for Buffalo but I doubt the Oilers would trade Bouchard.

 

[Perennial]

Buffalo is in absolutely no position to trade away an offensive talent like Olofsson

Olofsson is probably the only guy on the team the Sabres can count on for around 20 goals, can't see them trading him right now. As bad as they will be they still need to score occasionally to keep fans attending games.

Doesn't mean Bouchard isn't worth the trade, just don't believe this really fits with either teams needs that well.

Buffalo is years away from contending, and Olofsson will be a 27 year old RFA next summer...

So, what's your plan for him? Have the Sabres sign him to a long term extension and waste the remainder of his prime scoring goals on a team that's rebuilding?

That doesn't seem like good asset management to me...

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Olofsson is a complimentary piece. By the time the Sabres are ready to compete, he will be 28 and in for a big (over)payday that snipers get.

 

[780il]

No chance

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

To Edmonton: Olofsson (50% retained), Miller (50% retained), Anderson/Dell

To Buffalo: Bouchard, Koskinen


Edmonton add an offensive winger and a veteran RD in their prime, plus their choice of Anderson or Dell to serve as back-up or 3rd stringer

Buffalo get a young RD prospect with upside for their rebuild, while Koskinen gives them a warm body to play goal this season


NOTE: Turris and Eakin could also be included at Edmonton's discretion

Edmonton will have no desire to trade Bouchard. If they do trade him, it's certainly not for this bullshit. They wouldn't use Bouchard as a piece to dump off Koskinen and if they were dumping off Koskinen, it wouldn't be in a swap for another team's goalie, it would be with the idea of straight dumping him and paying a guy like 800k to be part of the rotation.

The three pieces from Buffalo don't even get you partway to Bouchard in value. Also... if Edmonton is trading away Koskinen's one year... they would be doing it to free up cap space for something... not swapping his 4.5M for an equal amount of 4.5M garbage.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how NHL teams are constructed.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Olofsson is probably the only guy on the team the Sabres can count on for around 20 goals, can't see them trading him right now. As bad as they will be they still need to score occasionally to keep fans attending games.

Doesn't mean Bouchard isn't worth the trade, just don't believe this really fits with either teams needs that well.

Bouchard is more than worth the trade. I really dislike Evan Bouchard and was never impressed by him as a top ten pick... but he is a legitimately talented D prospect.

 

[Perennial]

Bouchard is not available.

I'd do that for Buffalo but I doubt the Oilers would trade Bouchard.

I would have thought that too before Edmonton signed Barrie and Ceci to long term contracts over the summer...

The current decision makers for the Oilers aren't the ones who drafted Bouchard, so perhaps they don't have as much confidence in him as the previous regime

 

[780il]

I would have thought that too before Edmonton signed Barrie and Ceci to long term contracts over the summer...

The current decision makers for the Oilers aren't the ones who drafted Bouchard, so perhaps they don't have as much confidence in him as the previous regime

I can guarantee you Cody mfin Ceci of all people is not blocking Bouchard in any way. Holland and Tippett have both said they expect Bouchard to be a big part of the team this year and take on more responsibility as time goes on… he’s not going anywhere.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I can guarantee you Cody mfin Ceci of all people is not blocking Bouchard in any way. Holland and Tippett have both said they expect Bouchard to be a big part of the team this year and take on more responsibility as time goes on…

Cody Ceci is making 3.25M. Tyson Barrie is making 4.5m. These are both for 3 years. Quite literally those signings, as you @780il have laid out, have f*** all to do with Evan Bouchard and his spot with the Oilers. Those are contracts you give to defenseman 4-6 positions on your roster now. That's not anywhere near 1-3D money... which is where the Oilers are probably budgeting for Bouchard.

 

[Perennial]

I can guarantee you Cody mfin Ceci of all people is not blocking Bouchard in any way. Holland and Tippett have both said they expect Bouchard to be a big part of the team this year and take on more responsibility as time goes on… he’s not going anywhere.

Coaches and management usually say that about their young players...

If Edmonton can move Bouchard in a deal that improves their chances of contending, why wouldn't they do it?

 

[Hobnobs]

Coaches and management usually say that about their young players...

If Edmonton can move Bouchard in a deal that improves their chances of contending, why wouldn't they do it?

Sure. This deal doesnt though.

 

[member 334057]

Coaches and management usually say that about their young players...

If Edmonton can move Bouchard in a deal that improves their chances of contending, why wouldn't they do it?

In looking at Edmontons moves this summer they made some to address their scoring depth. I would guess their biggest weakness right now is in net? If that's the case adding one of Anderson or Dell definitely won't fix that.

I'd think they could probably move Koskinen at the expense of a pick or mid level prospect to a team like the Sabres or Yotes since he's only got 1 year left on his deal. It would free up cap space to maybe grab one of the Stars goalies if they choose to trade one? Buffalo signed Dell to a 2-way deal so he could get sent to the AHL in place of Koskinen if that were to happen.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Oil say no

 

[archangel2]

To Edmonton: Olofsson (50% retained), Miller (50% retained), Anderson/Dell

To Buffalo: Bouchard, Koskinen


Edmonton add an offensive winger and a veteran RD in their prime, plus their choice of Anderson or Dell to serve as back-up or 3rd stringer

Buffalo get a young RD prospect with upside for their rebuild, while Koskinen gives them a warm body to play goal this season


NOTE: Turris and Eakin could also be included at Edmonton's discretion

Oilers add 2 firsts

 

[bucks_oil]

Coaches and management usually say that about their young players...

If Edmonton can move Bouchard in a deal that improves their chances of contending, why wouldn't they do it?

The Oilers have already spent their wad on wingers this summer... what they are counting on two things:
1) is the development of a true #1 offensive D in a timeframe that matters for McDrai (and that they can afford). That's Bouchard (or perhaps Broberg).
2) Finding a goalie in the next year not named Koskinen (or Dell)

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Oilers add 2 firsts

Wow.. no.

Edmonton walks away from this deal and finds something else to spend their assets on.

Buffalo walks away and spends their assets on something else. If one side is worried about Cody Ceci and Tyson Barrie blocking the path for Bouchard... don't you think BUFFALO might have a little bit bigger issue there with Dahlin and Power?

 

[780il]

Coaches and management usually say that about their young players...

If Edmonton can move Bouchard in a deal that improves their chances of contending, why wouldn't they do it?

Our only reason to trade Bouchard would be if we got a guy that’s already established as a top2/4 dman and only a couple years older than Bouchard (which is not happening). That deal would accelerate Bouch’s development for us and make us a contender. This trade doesn’t do shit for us. Don’t need to add a pp specialist like Olofsson when we already have the best pp in the league. The rest of the junk in the deal is useless to us.

 

[CraigsList]

Dell for Koskinen. Buffalo will even retain half of Dell’s contract.

You can’t retain a contract already at league minimum.