To make the next step, what do we need?

[DRW204]

Who is replacing Ehlers' 25 goals, 60 points and PP1 impact? Keep in mind that it is unlikely the Jets are able to sign anyone in UFA to replace his production. So it is going to be one of the guys from the Moose or more likely Iafallo stepping into that role. Without him I forsee that 2nd line and top unit PP going back to stone age not to mention the Jets become extremely sensitive to injuries. Scheifele is also not getting any younger and it would be wise to price in some decline from him

Remove 30-40 goals from the Jets goal differential this year, whether it be from the GF side, GA side or combo of both: their goal differential would be essentially the same as Dallas'. As long as the Jets have Helle their floor is pretty safe as a playoff team IMO. Now how far they can go is another question. When you say window do you mean Cup or Playoffs?

 

[Eyeseeing]

Apparently his GF is not too happy here.

I’ve seen that in a couple of other places too.
I like the player however I’m sure the organization will have some conversations with him about long term.

 

[Daximus]

They converted him to a full time winger on the Moose the last 20 or so games. If he's given a push it seems it will be at wing for next year.

I honestly have no clue what they are thinking as they appear to have given up on Brad at C and who knows what their thoughts are on Cole there as he did play some C last year when Namestnikov was injured.

Yager is atleast a year probably 2 away.

Yeah doesn't seem like they are willing to go any other route but Names at this point in time.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Resigning Ehlers and extending Connors would solve a lot of problems

 

[Bender Duster]

We could really use at least two forwards and one defender that have both grit and that extra playoff gear. The playoffs are a different game from the regular season.

 

[Cleatus]

If they become available on July 1st, sign Bennett and Ekblad (more-so Bennett), and give some real playing time to prospects, even when they make mistakes.

Also re-sign Ehlers, and extend Connor without severely overpaying either.

 

[surixon]

Yeah doesn't seem like they are willing to go any other route but Names at this point in time.

Which seems crazy to me given they have tried to upgrade him each year.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

You need 1 maybe 2 of your younger prospects to hit right away

So like Yager/Lambert/Salomonsson. Come in next year take a spot and play well. It would go a long to rejuve the team and add some skill to the lineup

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

We scored barely more than 1 goal (4 in 3 games) per game on the road vs Dallas while giving up over 3 (10 in total). Maybe if we played on the other end of the rink more often and scored a few more goals we keep the opposition out of our end and give up less - like we did at home... and keep playing past round 2.

Our scoring dried up a bit in the PO. Maybe it was because the team D was not creating offense?
Whatever, 3 PO games do not overwhelm the facts of the entire season.

 

[raideralex99]

Our scoring dried up a bit in the PO. Maybe it was because the team D was not creating offense?
Whatever, 3 PO games do not overwhelm the facts of the entire season.

When you play defence first ... every teams scoring dries up.
How many goals did Johnston, Robertson, Benn, Senguin, Duchene score on the Jets?
One?
Look how the Leafs got blown out in games 5 & 7 but shutout the Panthers in game 6 playing a defensive structured game.
Special teams is what wins and loses games in the playoffs.
If the Jets special teams were regular season ST ... the Jets would still be playing.

 

[Keystone]

I’ve seen that in a couple of other places too.
I like the player however I’m sure the organization will have some conversations with him about long term.

I’m thinking a guy with injury history that has any kind of agent is gonna agree to something mid to long term even if he doesn’t see himself as a lifer here. 4 years 26-28 million. Set himself up for life, and then move on after 3 years with a trade when he won’t resign. UFA in late 20’s

 

[gojetsgo]

We scored barely more than 1 goal (4 in 3 games) per game on the road vs Dallas while giving up over 3 (10 in total). Maybe if we played on the other end of the rink more often and scored a few more goals we keep the opposition out of our end and give up less - like we did at home... and keep playing past round 2.

what's funny about this post is we actually scored more goals on the road then dallas did in the series...

 

[ChicagoBlues]

A true 2C and a Dman to play with JoMo and move DeMelo to 3RD
For Helly to accept fewer games in the regular season.

This. Whether it is a coaching decision or Helly demanding to play, his regular season workload MUST be dramatically reduced.

 

[GNP]

Re-sign Ehlers at any cost. With him gone, I fear this window shuts right close.

I wouldn’t say resign Ehlers at any cost, as there has to be a limit.

I do say offer him a little more than his market value, which is about $ 9.5 mil. So yeah, I think the Jets could go to a limit of $ 10 on Nik.

Considering they signed Scheifele about $ 2 mil under his market value, and also got a good deal on Helle, we can afford to pay Nik top dollar, but there has to be a limit.

What’s his true market value ? well considering Nylander got $ 11 mil per year ( 8@ $92 mil) you’d have to assess Ehler’s value at $ 9.5, or in that range, with the Cap rising.

 

[abax44]

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what's funny about this post is we actually scored more goals on the road then dallas did in the series...

Sick. Next time we should try out-winning them.

 

[GNP]

What if his demand was a $100 M contract? 8 X 12.5M. That is a contract at any cost, so do you offer him that?

NO - that’s too much, and there has to be a point where you walk away, from the table.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

12.5 million might be decent bid for Marner
Rantanen got 12 million
Ehlers fair value likely 8-9 million though who knows, a desperate GM might bid higher
I think that why Ehlers is testing the market
I don’t think can compare these Leafs contract.
Dubas was overpaying his top core 4

 

[JTBT1227]

What can be done, and what is love to happen are two different things.

Re-signing Ehlers is a priority. That transition ability cannot be replicated easily, I really hope they don’t discount what he brings. The injuries, and turnovers are concerning but overall I hope he stays. Cap going up considerably next few years, make it happen.

Vilardi as well needs to be brought back.

The UFA market is slim, Bennet - and Donato really the only 2C candidates, not sure they can grab either.

Chevy will have to be creative, to find viable targets. The contention window is now, and the core needs help. Namestnikov is not a viable 2C. I’d like to explore an offer sheet for McTavish. Screw the compensation.

The team is close. Need to add here, not lose talent.

As an outsider, I’d love to see you guys grab McTavish. Granted it’s probably unlikely…I think Ducks essentially match any offer. So unless some crazy $10-$11M offer is made, he stays a Duck.

 

[GNP]

On the Ehlers situation - there is something I think is not talked about, but I think is a problem, but it’s just my opinion.

I believe there is a disconnect between Ehlers and Scheifele, and I don’t think Sheif really likes him. I see bad chemistry on the ice between the 2, and it’s a concern. Body language is bad.

Example- when Ehlers scores a big goal, other teammates embrace him, and are all fired up. The most Scheifele will do, is nod, or touch him on the shoulder with a polite smile, but with zero emotion.

When Villardi or Connor scores, there is a genuine chemistry, and enthusiastic embrace, so you have to be aware, and read the body language.

There is a reason why Ehlers averages 14 minutes of ice time per game, and Sheif gets 19 to 20 mins.

I don’t think they have to sleep together, or even like each other, but must realize their on the same team,to accomplish the same goal.

I wonder if any other posters have noticed this, and feel the same as I do on this matter? I think it’s a big problem ( like Wheeler) that is not talked about.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

This. Whether it is a coaching decision or Helly demanding to play, his regular season workload MUST be dramatically reduced.

Its a bit of a shot in the dark. But what else is there to try?

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I think Perfetti is ready to take over Ehler's duties, and our rookies are ready to make the leap.

Don't know if Vilardi stays.

But I think we need a back-up goaltender who has Stanley Cup Finals experience. I think if we can get Matt Murray he might fill the void well for us. Comrie can't be entirely relied on do-or-die games.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

It’s a bit of a shot in the dark. But what else is there to try?

For Blues fan, it is glaringly obvious. We’ve discussed this at length for a few seasons now. It continues to happen. We even discussed this earlier this season before the 4 Nations break.

As a Jets fan and big supporter of Helly, I became less and less confident that your team would go further.

Someone there needs to take charge and force Helly to sit.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I think Perfetti is ready to take over Ehler's duties, and our rookies are ready to make the leap.

Don't know if Vilardi stays.

But I think we need a back-up goaltender who has Stanley Cup Finals experience. I think if we can get Matt Murray he might fill the void well for us. Comrie can't be entirely relied on do-or-die games.

A good back up goaltender. YES!!!!

 

[Dirtyclapper]

I wouldn’t say resign Ehlers at any cost, as there has to be a limit.

I do say offer him a little more than his market value, which is about $ 9.5 mil. So yeah, I think the Jets could go to a limit of $ 10 on Nik.

Considering they signed Scheifele about $ 2 mil under his market value, and also got a good deal on Helle, we can afford to pay Nik top dollar, but there has to be a limit.

What’s his true market value ? well considering Nylander got $ 11 mil per year ( 8@ $92 mil) you’d have to assess Ehler’s value at $ 9.5, or in that range, with the Cap rising.

I went through the numbers the other day in another thread. His book value is about 8.5 with his age, stats, and the cap going up. Closest comparable is Kevin Fiala in age/stats. There's other things to consider though, does Nik want to take another run with us? If he were to go to a bottom feeder he could likely cash in big if he went somewhere like Anaheim or possibly Vancouver, if you look around at the other teams boards it seems like almost every team wants him. Does he want to be a top line guy? It's basically up to him where he goes, where does he want to be most. I think he would get an offer at about 8.5 from us but if he wants to test his luck, the grass isn't always greener as they say. I was personally in the boat that we should have traded him for not reaching a deal, it sucks to lose a guy like that for nothing but there are still some options coming available but we always have such a hard time signing big name FA's it makes things tricky. Id like to retain everyone and add some more scoring and fade out some pieces like tanev appleton