Time to call out Elias Pettersson

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To be fair I was talking about these playoffs.

Okay. In these playoffs, he has one less point than Marner and two less than Matthews while playing with a young player in Hoglander who is also struggling and Ilya "I took 30+ games to score a goal" Mikheyev. Despite the lack of production, he's still playing well in other areas per @Rowlet response.

Is he struggling? Yes. But he's not been bad per se, just underwhelming. Unlike the "big four," Pettersson has shown he can produce in the playoffs.
 

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It's early but yes he has disappointed so far. However they are up a game and he has time to change his play which wasn't bad last game but yes he should be doing more. Hopefully he gets back to the player I think he is and starts to play like the star we know he is.
 

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We all have been shitting on Mitch”in” Marner but we need to call a spade a spade and call out Elias Pettersson.

Elias Pettersson Has been garbage these playoffs. Is he injured? Are there any personal problems that Elias Pettersson has? What is up with Elias Pettersson?

He has been horrible, he needs to be better. What gives with Elias Pettersson?
Yes.
 

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Okay. In these playoffs, he has one less point than Marner and two less than Matthews while playing with a young player in Hoglander who is also struggling and Ilya "I took 30+ games to score a goal" Mikheyev. Despite the lack of production, he's still playing well in other areas per @Rowlet response.

Is he struggling? Yes. But he's not been bad per se, just underwhelming. Unlike the "big four," Pettersson has shown he can produce in the playoffs.

The “big four” just flat out suck.
 
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The powerplay is where top players can make up for their mistakes.

However EP is one of the worst 'star' players on the PP in the league, so those mistakes stay front and center.
 

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He was pretty good in the bubble that time, this series he’s gotten his chances just no finish it feels like only a matter of time he finally gets one.
 

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Pettersson if he was remotely good on the PP would have an extra 15-20 points in any given year. It’s comical how bad he is on the PP sometimes.

That said, he routinely plays with Hoglander who’s a decent middle 6 talent playing way above his head playing alongside Pettersson and Ilya Mikheyev who has been dogshit for most of the year and has lost his speed from his ACL injury. Hoglander has 24 goals with Pettersson to thank him for many, much like Pettersson turned Kuzmenko into a 39 goal scorer. At some point, you need to give your star player linemates that can actually elevate their own games without Petey having to “carry” them, which he hasn’t been able to do as of late due to his own struggles.

He’s very much this generations Alexei Kovalev in regards to his ups and downs. When he’s on his game, he can be one of the best skilled two way centermans that can score 100 points a season. When he’s not, he looks like absolute utter shit with low intensity and effort with a pissy, sulking attitude.
 
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Pettersson if he was remotely good on the PP would have an extra 15-20 points in any given year. It’s comical how bad he is on the PP sometimes.

That said, he routinely plays with Hoglander who’s a decent middle 6 talent playing way above his head playing alongside Pettersson and Ilya Mikheyev who has been dogshit for most of the year and has lost his speed from his ACL injury. Hoglander has 24 goals with Pettersson to thank him for many, much like Pettersson turned Kuzmenko into a 39 goal scorer. At some point, you need to give your star player linemates that can actually elevate their own games without Petey having to “carry” them, which he hasn’t been able to do as of late due to his own struggles.

He’s very much this generations Alexei Kovalev in regards to his ups and downs. When he’s on his game, he can be one of the best skilled two way centermans that can score 100 points a season. When he’s not, he looks like absolute utter shit with low intensity and effort with a pissy, sulking attitude.
In his rookie season he scored tons of goals from one timers on PP. He is not doing that anymore?
 

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Game 2:
66.7% ES Corsi
61.5% ES Fenwick

Game 3:
Highest xG on the Canucks

He hasn't been a world beater but his linemates have been ass, he's been okay.
why didnt you include xG for game 2?

Where he was 3rd lowest on canucks.
 

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He has been in the playoffs once in the bubble and did fine. He also lays the body so its weird to call him a p***y.

He has been struggling for months. A lot of the fanbase has been calling him out. He needs to shoot the damn puck. His skating looks labored . Not trying to make any excuses for the guy, he needs to perform. But he does look like he is fighting an injury of some sort . His skating is a step behind usual.
This is technically his first real taste of playoffs because bubble playoffs with no fans is nothing like the energy and intensity that guys get off 16000 people going nuts in the building.

A lot of guys struggle in their first taste of playoffs. McDavid did, although he was much younger. I'll never get on a player who struggles one time in the playoffs. If it becomes a recurring theme then by all means shit on him, but way too early for that.
 

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In his rookie season he scored tons of goals from one timers on PP. He is not doing that anymore?

They’ve changed around the PP setup occasionally, at times with Pettersson on the left side and Miller on the right, which limits his one timer. But even when he’s on the right, they rarely set him up for it anymore.

His shot was always dangerous when he could get it off, but he was never really consistent with it anyway. Too often he’d miss high and ring the puck around and out, or he wouldn’t be able to take the pass well. What makes the great one timer guys like Ovechkin and Stamkos so effective is they can get off a great shot regardless of whether the pass is in the perfect spot. Pettersson needs to be set up perfectly or he’s not effective at it.
 
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Regal

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Pettersson has been slumping for months. He’s not playing well but it’s not a playoff thing

Marner was putting up bunches of points until the playoffs starts when he begins his annual suckage

Yea this is just a continuation of what we’ve seen since at least the trade deadline. Some flashes here and there but no real dominant shifts and a lot of not moving his feet enough and frustrated body language. I don’t think it’s a playoff thing. Something is just off with him
 
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He is a finesse young 1st line center. They usually struggle in their first few playoff appearances. He is going to be great in the long run.

Fans were saying the same shit about Datsyuk and his first few games in the playoffs as a 1st line center.
Damn you already went to Datsyuk lol
 

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why didnt you include xG for game 2?

Where he was 3rd lowest on canucks.

It was actually the 7th highest, per moneypuck.

His xG% was third lowest, but the other two lowest were his linemates, they all played very well defensively though.
 
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Sol

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What's wrong with that? Petersson' playstyle is quite close to Datsyuk's - vision, puck handling, ability to slow down the game, etc. And Datsyuk has been severely criticized for his first few playoffs.
Probability goes against him. There’s a lot more playoff duds than there are Datsyukian bloomers
 

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Pettersson hasn't been himself for the last 20 or so games of the season. Obviously, we aren't doing him any favours by saddling him with a few underperforming 3rd liners and expecting him to produce, but still, he should be better than he is. I really think they should put Miller, Boeser and Pettersson back together to get him going.

Maybe something like this:
Pettersson-Miller-Boeser
Joshua-Lindholm-Garland
Höglander-Suter-Mikheyev
Di Giuseppe-Blueger-Lafferty

We will need Pettersson if we make it to the 2nd round, so, we might as well try to get him going.
 

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tbh, i think there's something about the Preds system that really hurts his game. He doenst seem to be carrying the puck in the neutral zone where he can generate speed.
This donesnt affect Miller boeser garly or Lindholm but Petey needs neutral zone speed.

If Van plays Edmonton, i think Petey becomes a problem for the Oiler Dmen
 

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