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Time to abandon the President's Trophy?

ijuka said:
My point is that for the league's existence, regular season is far more important than playoffs. The league could get by just fine without having playoffs at all, but it'd be a death sentence to not have the regular season. Regular season is also what the players are actually paid to do—playoffs are essentially free labor, as players receive no pay for playoff games.
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Once again..all of this is all true for the other (and any) major professional sports leagues. Yet those leagues don't hand out a meaningless trophy to the 'Champion'. We know the regular season is important, what's not important is celebrating and handing out a trophy to the team that happened to have the best record in it.
 
Big Z Man 1990 said:
Since 1986, the President's Trophy winner has gone on to win the Cup only 8 times, with only one of them coming from the Eastern Conference.

By contrast, teams who finished with the most points won the Cup more often when the President's Trophy wasn't a thing.

Is it time the NHL acknowledge that the President's Trophy is cursed and do away with it?
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In reality, President's Trophy winners still have the highest odds to win or at least reach the Final:
Winning the Cup: 8/38 (21%)
Reaching the Finals: 11/38 (29%)

Every other team's odds would be about 5%?

#2 seeds in that same span have only won the SC 4/38 opportunities. That's more cursed.
In short, the Cup is incredibly difficult to win and every playoff team is good. Margins are razor thin.
 
MoneyManny said:
The salary cap era doesn't have any more parity. Half the league is constantly "rebuilding".

You're only parroting the kool-aid sold by Bettsy.
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It has parity. Last year the top 7 teams in the league were within 5 points of each other. Top team of the league are pretty evenly matched. That's why you don't see teams winning 4 in a row anymore and even repeating is super hard.
 
Big Z Man 1990 said:
Since 1986, the President's Trophy winner has gone on to win the Cup only 8 times, with only one of them coming from the Eastern Conference.

By contrast, teams who finished with the most points won the Cup more often when the President's Trophy wasn't a thing.

Is it time the NHL acknowledge that the President's Trophy is cursed and do away with it?
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The whole way north American sports does it is a joke but it's here to stay. In premiere league soccer , the team with the most points at the end of the year , wins the championship. What a concept.

The team that won the presidents trophy is always the best team in the league. Not the team that won the cup.
 
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Being the best team in the regular season is still an accomplishment, just not the ultimate goal. I see no reason to abandon the trophy.

Every award is a "good job" award. Best goal scorer in the regular season is just as irrelevant come playoff time, for example.

Trophies incentivize players.
 
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Filthy Dangles said:
Same case for the other leagues....and the same argument applies. Nobody cares about the fact that you were the best in the regular season, in and of itself.
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Uh what. In most of the world , the team with the most points wins the championship.

It is only north America and a few copycats that make the entire season meaningless. And then have some dog eat dog tournament at the end that favors Cinderellas over the best teams
 
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Brookbank said:
The whole way north American sports does it is a joke but it's here to stay. In premiere league soccer , the team with the most points at the end of the year , wins the championship. What a concept.

The team that won the presidents trophy is always the best team in the league. Not the team that won the cup.
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Preach, brother (or sister)!

The two could even be combined, all it requires is a better season structure.

There has always been an absurdity to the idea that the playoff champion of any NA sport is the best given it's a short tournament where luck and random chance are much larger factors whereas in the longer regular season these see all evened out.
 
paragon said:
It has parity. Last year the top 7 teams in the league were within 5 points of each other. Top team of the league are pretty evenly matched. That's why you don't see teams winning 4 in a row anymore and even repeating is super hard.
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So parity for you means the top teams are close to each other? Then there was no better time for that than pre-salary cap!

When the top team has more than double the points of the worst team, that's the same kind of (non) parity as England's Premier League.
 
This is kind of like when hotels skip the number 13 and call the 13th floor the 14th floor out of superstition. It’s still the 13th floor.

At least one team will have the most regular season points every season. You can celebrate that or not but it still exists either way.

I think most people think the trophy is pretty useless. Maybe if they rewarded the team with the most points a little better than home ice people would care more.
 
The Presidents trophy isn’t meant to be a predictor of who will win the Stanley Cup. It’s simply what it is - an award given to the team with the best regular season record.

In my experience here the only importance given to the award is typically by fans of good teams who have failed to win the Cup.
 
FinlandPanther said:
The difference is no one cares about one of them.
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Because the NHL didn't market it properly

In England, the FA Cup and Premier Championship have great value to teams and fans.

The NHL never set it up so these two championships were of equal value.

Theoretically, the Stanley Cup could run simultaneously as the regular season- even before it. There's no reason it has to be tied to the outcome of the regular season and therefore occur after the sesson
 
Brookbank said:
The whole way north American sports does it is a joke but it's here to stay. In premiere league soccer , the team with the most points at the end of the year , wins the championship. What a concept.

The team that won the presidents trophy is always the best team in the league. Not the team that won the cup.
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A god awful concept it is. Makes football even more boring than it actually is. The Pinnacle of sports is having a deciding game between two teams, going to the death. Winning a championship by standings watching sounds like a complete snooze.
 
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Rafafouille said:
A god awful concept it is. Makes football even more boring than it actually is. The Pinnacle of sports is having a deciding game between two teams, going to the death. Winning a championship by standings watching sounds like a complete snooze.
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You can have both
 
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