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Tiger Williams or Dave Schultz- Who would you rather have fighting your battles?

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They are 1-2 in all-time PIM's.

They are two of the toughest guys in NHL history.

Who would you rather have to fight your battles/protect you?
 
I'd say Schultz would beat Tiger 9 out of every 10 times,Tiger was very tough but not a great fighter.
 
The Hammer for sure. Look at the legendary fights he LOST. Robinson, maybe Gillies are the only two I can think of right now. Tiger could throw them but I'll still take Schultz in '74 or '75 over him
 
Dave Schultz

Al Bundy said:
They are 1-2 in all-time PIM's.

They are two of the toughest guys in NHL history.

Who would you rather have to fight your battles/protect you?
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Dave Schultz was drafted in the 1969 Draft out of Sorel from the old Montreal Metropolitan League. He was NOT very tough in junior. Kevin Morrison, playing for St.Jerome gave him a beating - afterwards Schultz did not want to fight him again. Also a Rosemount player did a number on Schultz.People who followed the league were surprised how he was perceived in the NHL

All-time PIM's is more a tribute to longevity - a function of hockey and fighting skills and being a team player.

From my perspective Steve Durbano, Bob Kelly and Andre Dupont were tougher. Durbano had no concept of discipline whereas Kelly and Dupont were not willing to brawl game in game out.
 
99wasnotthebest said:
Marty McSorley by miles.
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Schultzy wouldve killed him. Whenever Clarke or MacLeish or any other player on the Flyers for that matter got cheap shotted they went straight to Shultz and told him to take care of the player who laid it out to them. And he sure as hell took care of every single one of them. Schultz by miles upon miles.
 
JohnTavares09 said:
Schultzy wouldve killed him. Whenever Clarke or MacLeish or any other player on the Flyers for that matter got cheap shotted they went straight to Shultz and told him to take care of the player who laid it out to them. And he sure as hell took care of every single one of them. Schultz by miles upon miles.
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I'd take him over Tiger for certain, but I've just seen way more games of McSorley, so I have to check on Shultz.
 
Neither! I'd fight my own battles. I'd be embarrassed to have someone fight for me. In my day if you didn't take care of yourself you didn't last long.
 
Canadiens1958 said:
Dave Schultz was drafted in the 1969 Draft out of Sorel from the old Montreal Metropolitan League. He was NOT very tough in junior. Kevin Morrison, playing for St.Jerome gave him a beating - afterwards Schultz did not want to fight him again. Also a Rosemount player did a number on Schultz.People who followed the league were surprised how he was perceived in the NHL

All-time PIM's is more a tribute to longevity - a function of hockey and fighting skills and being a team player.

From my perspective Steve Durbano, Bob Kelly and Andre Dupont were tougher. Durbano had no concept of discipline whereas Kelly and Dupont were not willing to brawl game in game out.
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I think Schultz beat everyone he fought at least once but he was only 6'1" around 200 lbs.,hardly big enough to excel as a heavyweight in today's game. Durbano was a maniac,but not the greatest fighter and Kelly was small,game,but beaten a lot.
 
lrodptl said:
I think Schultz beat everyone he fought at least once but he was only 6'1" around 200 lbs.,hardly big enough to excel as a heavyweight in today's game. Durbano was a maniac,but not the greatest fighter and Kelly was small,game,but beaten a lot.
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Larry Robinson pummeled Schultz and they never fought again, and if memory serves there were some others that cleaned his clock without payback. IIRC, Paul Holmgren made his rep by trouncing Schultz and they never fought again.
 
Al Bundy said:
They are 1-2 in all-time PIM's.

They are two of the toughest guys in NHL history.

Who would you rather have to fight your battles/protect you?
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How do you get Dave Schultz is #2 all time in PIMs? He's not even top 25 all-time.
 
Psycho Papa Joe said:
Shultz might have been a better fighter, but Tiger was a better hockey player. I'll take the hockey player who can fight.
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Definitely.

Later in Tiger's career he became a bit of a clown, but he was a decent 20+ goal guy for a while.

The guy that I think is a better comparison for Williams is Paul Baxter. Both competent players who were part pest, part enforcer.

Schultz was never much of a player, though not useless, and was never really a pest.
 
I haven't been around for either of their careers. But, my impression is that Williams wasn't all that great at fighting compared to the league's true heavyweights like Dave Brown or Behn Wilson. Schultz was a heavyweight and I'd rather have that guy in my corner.
 
dcinroc said:
Larry Robinson pummeled Schultz and they never fought again, and if memory serves there were some others that cleaned his clock without payback. IIRC, Paul Holmgren made his rep by trouncing Schultz and they never fought again.
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I think Pierre Bouchard and Clark Gillies each beat him in their only fights. That's 4 out of nearly 200 fights with most opponents getting second and third opportunities. The Robinson and Gillies fights are on youtube.

Now I see Bouchard fought him 3 or 4 times.
 
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It maybe hard to believe, but Serge Savard took Schultz on and threw one haymaker after another.Savard tossed Schultz about like he was a broken rag doll.:amazed:
 
V-2 Schneider said:
It maybe hard to believe, but Serge Savard took Schultz on and threw one haymaker after another.Savard tossed Schultz about like he was a broken rag doll.:amazed:
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Yeah he doesnt get a lot of mention around here as a fighter but Savard could throw them if he had to. He was 6'3" so he had the size. All around I wouldnt take him over Schultz though. That would be like saying Mike Richards could take on Laraque just because he's an underated fighter.
 
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