Ticket/Attendance Discussion: The Sequel

[DeepFrickinValue]

I do not understand why people are talking about needing to move the arena outside of downtown.

Downtown Winnipeg has issues, yes, but rather than address those head on, the thought is that True North should spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of private dollars to sidestep them?

What about the idea that somebody in Winnipeg needs to actually step up and DO SOMETHING to improve the city, other than just depending on True North doing everything all the time.

I think the underlying issues are much more macro in scale than a mayor dealing with.

 

[sipowicz]

Ironically, they REMOVED a lane on Goulet heading into downtown for a bike lane

I'm all for bicycles, but to take away a traffic lane on one of the busier routes heading into downtown in favor of a bike lane that can be used for 5 months of the year by a handful of people (idiot winter cyclists of fat tired bike notwithstanding) is just plain stupid

Personally, i think cyclists should be able to ride on the sidewalk for no other reason than a cyclist-pedestrian collision is going to have WAY less risk of severe injury than a motor vehicle-cyclist collision

That's all I have for my off topic rant lol

Come on bike lanes are great, the .01% of the population; 25-50 white collar, white male demographic users luv them, everyone else NOT!

Our demogrpahics in this city have changed dramatically, people didn't come here from India, Lartin America, Africa and South East Asia to go back to riding bikes!

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Come on bike lanes are great, the .01% of the population; 25-50 white collar, white male demographic users luv them, everyone else NOT!

Our demogrpahics in this city have changed dramatically, people didn't come here from India, Lartin America, Africa and South East Asia to go back to riding bikes!

Bike riding and scooters (electric )is getting popular.

I live in Vancouver and we have an amazing bike network. I am able to ride anywhere in the city on dedicated bike lanes or bike paths. I can literally ride hundreds of kilometres anytime I want and not meet cars.

Quite often, I meet tourist who are has blown away with the scale of cycling infrastructure and tell us how lucky we are.

 

[sipowicz]

Bike riding and scooters (electric )is getting popular.

I live in Vancouver and we have an amazing bike network. I am able to ride anywhere in the city on dedicated bike lanes or bike paths. I can literally ride hundreds of kilometres anytime I want and not meet cars.

Quite often, I meet tourist who are has blown away with the scale of cycling infrastructure and tell us how lucky we are.

I've seen the bike infrastructure in Vancouver and Victoria and it's great and useable basically 365 days of the year, it makes sense! In Winnipeg it does not!

 

[SLAYER]

Come on bike lanes are great, the .01% of the population; 25-50 white collar, white male demographic users luv them, everyone else NOT!

Our demogrpahics in this city have changed dramatically, people didn't come here from India, Lartin America, Africa and South East Asia to go back to riding bikes!

Man, I dunno what everyone has against cycling but y'all need some perspective.

A lot more people would cycle more IF we had the proper infrastructure for it. This would also improve traffic, reducing the number of cars and trucks on the road. If you're out here driving a vehicle (especially as the only occupant) during rush hour, you're part of the traffic problem.

This and public transportation sorely needs attention in order to reduce traffic.



Also, this has nothing to do with pedestrain/cycling infrastructure but I don't think TNSE is going to move the arena AFTER they've built everything downtown surrounding the arena.

 

[sipowicz]

Man, I dunno what everyone has against cycling but y'all need some perspective.

A lot more people would cycle more IF we had the proper infrastructure for it. This would also improve traffic, reducing the number of cars and trucks on the road. If you're out here driving a vehicle (especially as the only occupant) during rush hour, you're part of the traffic problem.

This and public transportation sorely needs attention in order to reduce traffic.



Also, this has nothing to do with pedestrain/cycling infrastructure but I don't think TNSE is going to move the arena AFTER they've built everything downtown surrounding the arena.

I'm guessing you fit in my above mentioned demographic!

AT networks work, bike lanes not so much, at least not how they're built here, spent time in Edinburgh back in August and the bikes make sense and are incorporated into the sidewalk not the road!

 

[Gm0ney]

Ottawa's arena would basically be located past Headingly in terms of distance from the center of the city

Close to the horse statue at St. Francois Xavier...and a lot of Ottawa's population is on the east side (Orleans is about 125,000 and it's 40km from CTC in Kanata).

 

[Slimy Sculpin]

Bike riding and scooters (electric )is getting popular.

I live in Vancouver and we have an amazing bike network. I am able to ride anywhere in the city on dedicated bike lanes or bike paths. I can literally ride hundreds of kilometres anytime I want and not meet cars.

Quite often, I meet tourist who are has blown away with the scale of cycling infrastructure and tell us how lucky we are.

I'm envious but remind me how much snow and -20°C (and colder) days you get out there on the Left Coast.

 

[SLAYER]

I'm guessing you fit in my above mentioned demographic!

AT networks work, bike lanes not so much, at least not how they're built here, spent time in Edinburgh back in August and the bikes make sense and are incorporated into the sidewalk not the road!

Cycling and pedestrian infrastructure 100000% need to be separate from roadways. If they're not at least protected by a physical barrier, they're just a suggestion that most people won't follow.

 

[jetsmooseice]

I'm envious but remind me how much snow and -20°C (and colder) days you get out there on the Left Coast.

It's the middle of November and there's no snow or ice here yet

 

[Slimy Sculpin]

It's the middle of November and there's no snow or ice here yet

Of course. I guess we should be thankful for Climate Change. Side story: In the early 1980s I went to a seminar on climate change (It was a thing even back then, sort of.) given by a scientist colleague of mine here in "Winterpeg". His very early model had southern Manitoba eventually with a climate similar to the then climate of Nebraska/Iowa. I think that we're definitely heading that way.

 

[Gm0ney]

Of course. I guess we should be thankful for Climate Change. Side story: In the early 1980s I went to a seminar on climate change (It was a thing even back then, sort of.) given by a scientist colleague of mine here in "Winterpeg". His very early model had southern Manitoba eventually with a climate similar to the then climate of Nebraska/Iowa. I think that we're definitely heading that way.

Ah, tropical Iowa/Nebraska!

Milder and shorter winters here are fine with me...but a catastrophe for the planet as a whole.

 

[Gordon112358]

Ah, tropical Iowa/Nebraska!

Milder and shorter winters here are fine with me...but a catastrophe for the planet as a whole.

Cycling and pedestrian infrastructure 100000% need to be separate from roadways. If they're not at least protected by a physical barrier, they're just a suggestion that most people won't follow.

I completely agree. I cycle from Island Lakes to downtown almost every day from mid April to mid October and I can get to work in about 25-30 minutes. Often much faster than what it would take me to take transit or my own vehicle.
I am fortunate that I have a route that for the most part avoids major streets. If I was forced to just go up St. Annes and St Mary's I would never bike. I don't want to be part of the roadway because I don't belong there going 20-30 km/hr when vehicle are going 50-60.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

I'm envious but remind me how much snow and -20°C (and colder) days you get out there on the Left Coast.

Filling up fast here though. Hard to get to beaches and parks on the weekends.

 

[macmaroon]

Comes in to check on attendance chatter...

Reads all about bike lanes and corridors...

Scratches head and bikes away...

 

[Cypruss]

Comes in to check on attendance chatter...

Reads all about bike lanes and corridors...

Scratches head and bikes away...

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don't forget the climate change fear-mongering