OT: Thread About Nothing (part # who cares)

[Davegarri]

Speaking of feeling old, the other day one of the high schoolers I coach was wearing a Blink-182 shirt with their album cover art on it. I said nice shirt and asked if he liked them and he goes "nah, I don't know who or what they are I just thought it looked cool". Sick, f*** me I guess lol

Fast forward to today, I'm searching for classic rock in Spotify to make a road trip playlist and it suggested albums from Blink, RHCP, and the Foo Fighters... f*** me harder

 

[JimEIV]

All I'll say is that tipping is a management trick to make sure they can pay employees less than minimum wage. They don't do it in other countries because they don't treat labor with the same level as contempt as we do. Do with that information what you will.

Nah.... fishing guides, hair stylists, a lot of drivers/taxis/shuttles are independent and have no management... that's just what I encountered in the last 10/15 days and is fresh on my mind...but there are tons of other small independent workers that provide services that should be tipped that have no management. I love to tip for good service.

The restaurant industry in the US base level service and attentiveness is a complete different level than most countries too...always fun waiting for a drink while your food is getting cold because your waiter has absolute contempt for you and is getting paid no matter what.

Service is an art and a skill that should be compensated based on the skill level. I have had good service make a shitty meal a decent experience and I have had bad service make an excellent meal a horrible experience....those two people shouldn't be compensated the same.

There is one restaurant in my town that the service is so varied you absolutely never know what you are going to get. Food is always good but you can get great service or absolute garbage service where the staff hangs out at the service area just talking with friends for 20 minutes...Come to find out they pool their tips...so as in any organization or group project 10% do 90% of the work and the customer loses out based on luck of the draw. Those two different groups of people absolutely should not be compensated the same under any circumstances.

I hope service is never lost in this country, good service makes for a much more enjoyable experience.


And to this point... After driving just about 2000 miles in the last 10 days, I hope we never allow pumping of our own gas in New Jersey....self service stations with a restaurant or food mart attached is an absolute shit show on a holiday weekend. 15 pump bays and 80% are just people parked in the spot while getting snacks for the road and a dozen cars waiting in line to pump gas... horrible, horrible experience.

People that facilitate a better experience are a god send to me and deserve to get extra for it.

 

[Bleedred]

this was shown on screen before a three's company episode...

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I’d totally expect this before an episode of All in the Family, but not sure Three’s Company.

Once in a while Roper or Furley would make fun of Jack’s sexuality, because he had to pretend to be a gay man in order for the landlords to let him live with two girls. Mostly Roper making hand gestures to let everyone know Jack was gay.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Nah.... fishing guides, hair stylists, a lot of drivers/taxis/shuttles are independent and have no management... that's just what I encountered in the last 10/15 days and is fresh on my mind...but there are tons of other small independent workers that provide services that should be tipped that have no management. I love to tip for good service.

The restaurant industry in the US base level service and attentiveness is a complete different level than most countries too...always fun waiting for a drink while your food is getting cold because your waiter has absolute contempt for you and is getting paid no matter what.

Service is an art and a skill that should be compensated based on the skill level. I have had good service make a shitty meal a decent experience and I have had bad service make an excellent meal a horrible experience....those two people shouldn't be compensated the same.

There is one restaurant in my town that the service is so varied you absolutely never know what you are going to get. Food is always good but you can get great service or absolute garbage service where the staff hangs out at the service area just talking with friends for 20 minutes...Come to find out they pool their tips...so as in any organization or group project 10% do 90% of the work and the customer loses out based on luck of the draw. Those two different groups of people absolutely should not be compensated the same under any circumstances.

I hope service is never lost in this country, good service makes for a much more enjoyable experience.


And to this point... After driving just about 2000 miles in the last 10 days, I hope we never allow pumping of our own gas in New Jersey....self service stations with a restaurant or food mart attached is an absolute shit show on a holiday weekend. 15 pump bays and 80% are just people parked in the spot while getting snacks for the road and a dozen cars waiting in line to pump gas... horrible, horrible experience.

People that facilitate a better experience are a god send to me and deserve to get extra for it.

I've been to numerous countries that don't have tipping and the service was actually better than some places here where you have to tip. They do their job and are compensated for it.

In terms of gas I'd always rather pump my own. I've never had that issue in other states unless it's a busy holiday weekend but I've absolutely sat for 5 mins waiting around here because they have 1 person working 8 pumps. I get out all the time because I don't want to be wasting my time sitting there for no reason. Never had a pump attendant care that I've gotten out before either when they are behind.

 

[JimEIV]

I've been to numerous countries that don't have tipping and the service was actually better than some places here where you have to tip. They do their job and are compensated for it.

In terms of gas I'd always rather pump my own. I've never had that issue in other states unless it's a busy holiday weekend but I've absolutely sat for 5 mins waiting around here because they have 1 person working 8 pumps. I get out all the time because I don't want to be wasting my time sitting there for no reason. Never had a pump attendant care that I've gotten out before either when they are behind.

I haven't been to Japan but I understand their service consistently gets rated as among the best in the world...Asia in general...it makes sense, a homogeneous society based in respect and honor...not to be pessimistic but I don't think that would work here the same way?

Europe? Two things: many European countries that do the most complaining about "American tipping culture" charge a service charge for dining...go figure? Service charges exist in some form just about everywhere in Europe...All that does is take the decision out of your hands and mandates the tip as they see fit.... it's a backdoor codified tip. But hey, you don't have to figure out percentages or make a judgement so I guess that's a plus? Second I think their service is generally subpar to the American standard.... if the order is not right, most times in the U.S. someone is at your table within minutes to ask you if everything came out ok....good luck elsewhere...eat it and shut up I suppose? Or just wait for someone to come and give you an attitude. That would never fly here but it's common elsewhere. Good luck asking for a substition in a lot of places in Europe.

On the gas, it's not just holidays and busy times....from the mid 1990's to 2008 I drove from New Jersey to Wyoming/Montana/Idaho every year. Usually across Route 80, sometimes I'd do Route 90 on the way home. You're going through 8 states on 80 to Wyoming (NJ, PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, WY) then 10 total on to Idaho and Montana...Blocked pumps and was the norm. Especially at the small stations with only 4 pumps and sometimes even just 2.

For a lot of those years people going inside to pay was the norm...and of course they had to buy their energy drink and Copenhagen long cut while having a conversation with girl behind the counter for an extra few minutes. Then there's those that stare at the keypad for 5 minutes trying to figure out the prompts...No I don't want a car wash or become a points member....how about a Geico commercial while you pump your gas? People get spastic at self checkout lines at supermarket too it's the same thing. And if there's any type of weather to deal with, tact on another 5 or so minutes...It was pretty much the same from Pennsylvania to Montana only difference was the people seemed to be a little more patient the further west you got. But almost no one pumps their gas and moves to a parking spot to go inside, they just leave their car at the pump. It happens here too but to a much lesser extent.

 

[Satans Hockey]

I haven't been to Japan but I understand their service consistently gets rated as among the best in the world...Asia in general...it makes sense, a homogeneous society based in respect and honor...not to be pessimistic but I don't think that would work here the same way?

Europe? Two things: many European countries that do the most complaining about "American tipping culture" charge a service charge for dining...go figure? Service charges exist in some form just about everywhere in Europe...All that does is take the decision out of your hands and mandates the tip as they see fit.... it's a backdoor codified tip. But hey, you don't have to figure out percentages or make a judgement so I guess that's a plus? Second I think their service is generally subpar to the American standard.... if the order is not right, most times in the U.S. someone is at your table within minutes to ask you if everything came out ok....good luck elsewhere...eat it and shut up I suppose? Or just wait for someone to come and give you an attitude. That would never fly here but it's common elsewhere. Good luck asking for a substition in a lot of places in Europe.

On the gas, it's not just holidays and busy times....from the mid 1990's to 2008 I drove from New Jersey to Wyoming/Montana/Idaho every year. Usually across Route 80, sometimes I'd do Route 90 on the way home. You're going through 8 states on 80 to Wyoming (NJ, PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, NE, WY) then 10 total on to Idaho and Montana...Blocked pumps and was the norm. Especially at the small stations with only 4 pumps and sometimes even just 2.

For a lot of those years people going inside to pay was the norm...and of course they had to buy their energy drink and Copenhagen long cut while having a conversation with girl behind the counter for an extra few minutes. Then there's those that stare at the keypad for 5 minutes trying to figure out the prompts...No I don't want a car wash or become a points member....how about a Geico commercial while you pump your gas? People get spastic at self checkout lines at supermarket too it's the same thing. And if there's any type of weather to deal with, tact on another 5 or so minutes...It was pretty much the same from Pennsylvania to Montana only difference was the people seemed to be a little more patient the further west you got. But almost no one pumps their gas and moves to a parking spot to go inside, they just leave their car at the pump. It happens here too but to a much lesser extent.

I don't think we ever get to the point of no tipping here so I don't think we have to worry about it. Japan was amazing, I had a horrible time communicating but everyone was still super nice and we figured it out. Also helps that a bunch of restaurants have tablets you can order on and change the language. Some other places I just winged it completely and just pointed at things lol I would have to loved to learn some of the language to communicate but it's a really hard language.

Gas wise when I'm on road trips I either go to wawas, pilots, flying js or loves and I never have an issue with not being able to find an empty pump. I get why people don't like pumping their own gas but way too many rude pump attendants in this state who let the gas cap hit into the car too. I just wanna get there and gas up and go and not have my time wasted.

 

[JimEIV]

I don't think we ever get to the point of no tipping here so I don't think we have to worry about it. Japan was amazing, I had a horrible time communicating but everyone was still super nice and we figured it out. Also helps that a bunch of restaurants have tablets you can order on and change the language. Some other places I just winged it completely and just pointed at things lol I would have to loved to learn some of the language to communicate but it's a really hard language.

Gas wise when I'm on road trips I either go to wawas, pilots, flying js or loves and I never have an issue with not being able to find an empty pump. I get why people don't like pumping their own gas but way too many rude pump attendants in this state who let the gas cap hit into the car too. I just wanna get there and gas up and go and not have my time wasted.

I really want to visit Japan the lengthy flight is a bit of an obstacle for me, but I will bite the bullet one day. Good to hear that you enjoyed it. I really want to see their mountains and fish there. They have some really cool trout species that we don't have.

When I got into Iowa after Council Bluffs the gas stations seem to only be Kum-n-Go and Sinclair. I stopped in a lot of desolate places in Iowa, Nebraska and Wyoming. Kind of part of the charm of the drive to be honest.

 

[Satans Hockey]

I really want to visit Japan the lengthy flight is a bit of an obstacle for me, but I will bite the bullet one day. Good to hear that you enjoyed it. I really want to see their mountains and fish there. They have some really cool trout species that we don't have.

When I got into Iowa after Council Bluffs the gas stations seem to only be Kum-n-Go and Sinclair. I stopped in a lot of desolate places in Iowa, Nebraska and Wyoming. Kind of part of the charm of the drive to be honest.

The flight wasn't actually as bad as I expected but we flew mainly through the night so I just slept through a ton of it. If you do go and your wife is coming the plane I was on had 2 seaters so made it so much easier to get up when you wanted to walk around and stretch your legs. It was just really weird getting like 3 meals on the plane, I did it directly cause I try to avoid connections like the plague.

I would go once a year if the cost of the flights weren't as high as they are. Once you get there though the prices on everything are quite affordable.

 

[njdevils1982]

looks better, did you use Henry the vacuum?

that always cracks me up...but the best part at the end is cut off where "henry" falls over

 

[njdevils1982]

I’d totally expect this before an episode of All in the Family, but not sure Three’s Company.

Once in a while Roper or Furley would make fun of Jack’s sexuality, because he had to pretend to be a gay man in order for the landlords to let him live with two girls. Mostly Roper making hand gestures to let everyone know Jack was gay.

it was funny and still funny today. they're characters on a tv show being played by actors. the parts written were what the character would do. i never thought of it as hateful or malicious in the writing. same for bunker...that's just the way he talked in the show

shit, even macgowan got flack for his song character's words in fairytale of new york....knopfler in money for nothing as well

 

[Bleedred]

it was funny and still funny today. they're characters on a tv show being played by actors. the parts written were what the character would do. i never thought of it as hateful or malicious in the writing. same for bunker...that's just the way he talked in the show

shit, even macgowan got flack for his song character's words in fairytale of new york....knopfler in money for nothing as well

I think a lot of people may have missed the point with the Archie Bunker character. His character being so bigoted was very much in line with how ignorant the man was. Like the episode where he joined the local KKK (Kween’s Kouncil of Krusaders), on accident, because he didn’t even realize that’s what it was, he was just stupid. And he didn’t even get the benefit of the doubt from Mike and Gloria because of his beliefs. Once in a while Archie would do something good hearted to win the audience over, like paying for Mike’s appendix surgery and standing up to the KKK guys after they threatened to burn the cross on Mike’s yard for his editorial, and telling them of his blood transfusion from a black person. And that he and “us blacks” will come after them if they carry out their plan.

Norman Lear also made the George Jefferson character, who was sort of the black answer to Archie, though not quite as bigoted and definitely a man of a bit higher intelligence. Both were married to sweet, kind-hearted women. Obviously Louise Jefferson was a much brighter woman than Edith Bunker.

 

[njdevils1982]

I think a lot of people may have missed the point with the Archie Bunker character. His character being so bigoted was very much in line with how ignorant the man was. Like the episode where he joined the local KKK (Kween’s Kouncil of Krusaders), on accident, because he didn’t even realize that’s what it was, he was just stupid. And he didn’t even get the benefit of the doubt from Mike and Gloria because of his beliefs. Once in a while Archie would do something good hearted to win the audience over, like paying for Mike’s appendix surgery and standing up to the KKK guys after they threatened to burn the cross on Mike’s yard for his editorial, and telling them of his blood transfusion from a black person. And that he and “us blacks” will come after them if they carry out their plan.

Norman Lear also made the George Jefferson character, who was sort of the black answer to Archie, though not quite as bigoted and definitely a man of a bit higher intelligence. Both were married to sweet, kind-hearted women. Obviously Louise Jefferson was a much brighter woman than Edith Bunker.

speaking of the jeffersons, helen was played by lenny kravitz's mom

 

[The 29th Pick]

that always cracks me up...but the best part at the end is cut off where "henry" falls over

Yeah there are longer versions of this, I just used the first one I could find, it's been around forever lol

 

[thebeernerd]

I went to the American Dream Mall this past Saturday. If you've got kids, it's worth it for the water park and indoor amusement park. It's easy to get to on the bus from NYC. There were also many Beyonce concert goers for that particular day. I just had to blurt out "Beyonce knew about P. Diddy" to a few people that were obviously going to that concert, I couldn't resist.

 

[njdevils1982]

tucked under overhang of coop

 

[njdevils1982]

I went to the American Dream Mall this past Saturday. If you've got kids, it's worth it for the water park and indoor amusement park. It's easy to get to on the bus from NYC. There were also many Beyonce concert goers for that particular day. I just had to blurt out "Beyonce knew about P. Diddy" to a few people that were obviously going to that concert, I couldn't resist.

ya, the one that csny did afterwards...

 

[The 29th Pick]

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I see you posted that at 3:23, good thing you got it before "angry hour" from 4 to 5

 

[Capt Nico Poo]

I am becoming a New Yorker after 2 years.

Knicks have started to dictate my mood

 

[Clam Jensen]

I am becoming a New Yorker after 2 years.

Knicks have started to dictate my mood

Your first mistake was becoming a knicks fan! The rangers of the NBA.

You should be a nets fan like me and just stop caring about bball until they make the playoffs again lol.

 

[thebeernerd]

Wife and I have to cut down on expenses for reasons I won't get into (don't worry, we still have our jobs and it's not for anything bad). But now I want to get a second tattoo- a small Mobile Sprout from Earthbound. Probably would be cheaper than the big Devils Meatwad that's in my avatar but fair is fair. If she gets to stop spending on bamboo clothes, I have to do the same for the few times I want to splurge on something unnecessary.

I am becoming a New Yorker after 2 years.

Knicks have started to dictate my mood

I wanted the Knicks to win because it would have been a very fun time in the city and I don't hate the fans enough to wish them ill. But it was never going to happen. Guess I can still lord over them by saying that the Nets have made an NBA Final more recently.

 

[JimEIV]

I've been home for just about 3 days and I am bored already. Usually after a few days on the road it's nice to get back home, take a shower in my own bathroom and sleep in my own bed.

But not this time...this time I really wanted to just keep driving until I found another pretty place to fish and hang out.

My fishing stuff is still packed and organized pretty well on the car. I'm thinking about heading out again if I can convince my wife? Maybe Michigan or somewhere in the upper Midwest? I don't know but I'm bored out of mind today. Gray overcast days make me want to be on the water so bad it's almost like an addiction.