Player Discussion Thomas Chabot (D) Part 2

[Bjornar Moxnes]

This below is what I call an impact player. Without verifying, I'd say the current season will look like this for Chabot, maybe a bit lower in offense and higher in defense





McDavid is generational, Draisaitl, Makar and MacKinnon are also extremely to that. So yeah, can't limit "impact player" to that.

Back when Chabot and Dahlin were equal caliber players, ngl. 2022-2023 and beyond is when Dahlin leaped above Chabot and became far superior.

 

[DueDiligence]

This below is what I call an impact player. Without verifying, I'd say the current season will look like this for Chabot, maybe a bit lower in offense and higher in defense





McDavid is generational, Draisaitl, Makar and MacKinnon are also extremely to that. So yeah, can't limit "impact player" to that.

You take Chabot's stats from 3 years ago. That's a lifetime in pro sports and not relevant today.
Regardless your use of the term "impact" would apply to at least a third of the players in the NHL. My standards are quite a bit higher.

 

[BondraTime]

He's undoubtedly an impact player, there are 4/5 impact players on each team in the league at minimum

22nd in scoring, 30th in icetime, all situations on the ice, tilts the ice among the most of any player in the league with regards to pushing the play in his teams favour

He's got 7 pp points, if he was on the PP getting Sanderson's minutes, of which he is certainly capable, he'd very comfortably be in the top 10, Sanderson has 28 PP points.

Sanderson deserves those minutes, and he has been a league wide star on the PP, it cut into Chabot's production greatly, which is absolutely fine. 45+ points from your #2 guy playing 23+ minutes a night is among the best #2's in the league (was the 3rd highest scoring #2 behind Toews and Chychrun)

 

[Xspyrit]

Buddy it’s criminal to have brought back this tweet in this thread I legit thought Chabot was out for the season.

haha sorry, always try to find the time frame first for these cards

Back when Chabot and Dahlin were equal caliber players, ngl. 2022-2023 and beyond is when Dahlin leaped above Chabot and became far superior.

Dahlin was always going to end up as the better player, he wasn't a 1st OA pick for nothing. People quickly forget that Dahlin is just 24 y/o as of now... he started playing in the NHL at 18

You take Chabot's stats from 3 years ago. That's a lifetime in pro sports and not relevant today.

It doesn't matter at all, the card could be from 10 years ago and the point would remain the same. I said "I'd say the current season will look like this for Chabot" so I took this card for comparison since the last 2 seasons didn't look similar as he was battling injuries and bad partners in a DJ Dorion system. If you absolutely need a more recent one, there are but then it wouldn't properly show what his current season would look like as his defense is miles better than it was in 2022-23 and 2023-24 but here you go :

Regardless your use of the term "impact" would apply to at least a third of the players in the NHL. My standards are quite a bit higher.

If you ask Google what an impact player means, it gives you this :

"An Impact Player is someone who makes a significant contribution individually, but who also has an enormously positive effect on the entire team"

It's a matter of semantics but your standards don't seem to match the popular view. I never said it would apply to 1/3 of the players, not even close. if you read other posters on this, it will give you a better idea of how people sees it in general.

 

[Micklebot]

You take Chabot's stats from 3 years ago. That's a lifetime in pro sports and not relevant today.
Regardless your use of the term "impact" would apply to at least a third of the players in the NHL. My standards are quite a bit higher.

3 years might be a lifetime ago for a guy like Giroux who is in his final years, but Chabot is still in his prime,

In the end though, you're arguing semantics of who qualifies as impact, personally, I'd argue your standard seems to align more with what people would call elite, but really it doesn't matter, it all starts with X saying he'd keep the impact player over guys like Amadio or Perron, what he had in mind is all that really matters, if you'd prefer he use a different word for a guy who is the caliber of Chabot from 3 years ago, feel free to suggest one but it doesn't change the actual point of what type/caliber of player he'd rather have.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

haha sorry, always try to find the time frame first for these cards



Dahlin was always going to end up as the better player, he wasn't a 1st OA pick for nothing. People quickly forget that Dahlin is just 24 y/o as of now... he started playing in the NHL at 18



It doesn't matter at all, the card could be from 10 years ago and the point would remain the same. I said "I'd say the current season will look like this for Chabot" so I took this card for comparison since the last 2 seasons didn't look similar as he was battling injuries and bad partners in a DJ Dorion system. If you absolutely need a more recent one, there are but then it wouldn't properly show what his current season would look like as his defense is miles better than it was in 2022-23 and 2023-24 but here you go :

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If you ask Google what an impact player means, it gives you this :

"An Impact Player is someone who makes a significant contribution individually, but who also has an enormously positive effect on the entire team"

It's a matter of semantics but your standards don't seem to match the popular view. I never said it would apply to 1/3 of the players, not even close. if you read other posters on this, it will give you a better idea of how people sees it in general.

I never stated Dahlin wasn't going to turn out to be the better player.

 

[Xspyrit]

I never stated Dahlin wasn't going to turn out to be the better player.

I know, that was the point I added.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Chabot has been awesome now that he has a real NHL level partner.

Any talk of trading him is just foolishness.

The 1-2 punch of Sanderson and Chabot is elite.

 

[OD99]

Chabot has been awesome now that he has a real NHL level partner.

Any talk of trading him is just foolishness.

The 1-2 punch of Sanderson and Chabot is elite.

His game is very, very good right now.

He is making offensive plays effortlessly. It feels like both he and Sanderson have starting rushing the puck a fair bit more in the last while.

They are breaking out of our zone and carrying the puck into the offensive zone a lot.

I love to see our numbers from the blueline increase. Chabby deserves some love.