This Pittsburgh Penguins Act is Getting Old

hotpaws

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If that's the point then Dubas is doing a great job.

Doesn't change that Sullivan looks as out of his element as Mike Johnston or Eddie Olczyk did.
my original point was Sully is still around because once Dubas fires Sully the attention diverts to his roster building

a higher pick is just a bonus
 

Empoleon8771

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we'll see what happens with my Leafs once the 11m dollar loser Tavares is off the books

sad your reduced to lying since you can't make a coherent argument why everyone should just concentrate on bashing Sullivan , cool

Absolute lol at me “lying” just because I won’t say Dubas is 100% to blame for their issues.

Like I said, your team will waste the career of arguably the best American player of all time with losing in the 1st round every year. But I guess saying “at least we don’t have that dumbass Dubas” will make you feel better about it. Maybe Matthews will end up leaving for an American team that doesn’t have a 60 year losing streak and he can finally win in the playoffs. Just like Kessel left the stink of Toronto and immediately found success.
 

hotpaws

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Absolute lol at me “lying” just because I won’t say Dubas is 100% to blame for their issues.

Like I said, your team will waste the career of arguably the best American player of all time with losing in the 1st round every year. But I guess saying “at least we don’t have that dumbass Dubas” will make you feel better about it. Maybe Matthews will end up leaving for an American team that doesn’t have a 60 year losing streak and he can finally win in the playoffs. Just like Kessel left the stink of Toronto and immediately found success.
show me where i said Dubas was 100% to blame , i'll be waiting

to bad you have me mistaken for some over the top Leaf homer who feels the need to defend the honor of my team from the vicious hoard of anti Leaf haters and believe you can trigger me by knocking my teams record

i waited literally decades for the Leafs to assembles the young core of elite talent they did and then Shanny who's been punched one too many times in the head bought into Dubas' schtick and handed the keys to the franchise to that incompetent piece of shit and we're still feeling the effects of his brutal mismanagement
 

WarriorofTime

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Granlund was just a move that didn't work out. Don't understand why trading a 2nd for him is considered some sort of 9/11 event that needed to be rectified (cap dumped) at all costs. He's had a solid career overall.
 

Empoleon8771

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Granlund was just a move that didn't work out. Don't understand why trading a 2nd for him is considered some sort of 9/11 event that needed to be rectified (cap dumped) at all costs. He's had a solid career overall.

I think this is revisionist history of the trade. Hextall and the Penguins were absolutely clowned on for that deal. It was from basically all aspects, they were dunked on from everywhere for that trade.

Media members said their sources were completely perplexed by it, with some reports saying that Hextall basically offered the 2nd before even hearing the Predators asking price. The entire analytics crowd hated it because Granlund had become a horrid analytical player. Combine those two with his contract left (3 years at $5 million) and the Penguins plan to play him in a completely different role (one he wouldn’t fit in), it’s not hard to see why the hockey world responded as it did.

“It was only a 2nd” is pretty much the only saving grace of that trade. It’s like trading for Daniel Sprong with the hopes he can be a Selke caliber center, it was just a downright bizarre decision for a NHL GM to make. Part of it was the flaws of Granlund, but another legitimate part of it was how the move just made no sense.
 

SomeDude

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He couldn't play Sullivan hockey. He stunk with the Penguins.
Not being able to play Sullivan hockey is a complement to a player.

The trade sucked because it was seen as the last real chance the core had to compete and we went from rumors of JT Miller to paying a 2nd for a guy a lot of people considered to have zero to negative value in Granlund.

Granlund did suck as a Penguin. Sullivan also set him up for failure. He was deployed in a shutdown role on a strictly defensive 3rd line. To the surprise of only Mike Sullivan, that did not go well.
 

HTFN

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we'll see what happens with my Leafs once the 11m dollar loser Tavares is off the books

sad your reduced to lying since you can't make a coherent argument why everyone should just concentrate on bashing Sullivan , cool
You’re either trolling, drunk, or both. Give it a rest, it should not be difficult to track what’s being said to you in good faith.
 
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