This Pittsburgh Penguins Act is Getting Old

[hotpaws]

If Dubas still wants to keep Sullivan then I'm onboard the Dubas hate train.

Dubas keeps Sullivan around because it diverts attention from his piss poor job of retooling.

we'll see however how long ownership puts up with his incompetence once the arena is 1/2 full

 

[TooManyHumans]

FSG reportedly loves Sullivan.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

FSG reportedly loves Sullivan.

Completely validating every Red Sox & Liverpool fan who called them incompetent.

They definitely seem to be wowed by people who interview well and suck at their jobs.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Dubas keeps Sullivan around because it diverts attention from his piss poor job of retooling.

we'll see however how long ownership puts up with his incompetence once the arena is 1/2 full

Lol the owners love Sullivan even more than Dubas does.

The reality is that the Penguins organization as a whole are full of a bunch of idiots who think Sullivan is the best coach in hockey history. That goes to the players, management and owners.

 

[hotpaws]

Lol the owners love Sullivan even more than Dubas does.

The reality is that the Penguins organization as a whole are full of a bunch of idiots who think Sullivan is the best coach in hockey history. That goes to the players, management and owners.

you can have your pick of coach's and the Pens aren't going anywhere with the trash Dumbass added

 

[Empoleon8771]

you can have your pick of coach's and the Pens aren't going anywhere with the trash Dumbass added

Literally any coach available would do a better job on this team than Sullivan.

Sullivan is playing a system that his players do not fit simply because he's arrogant and likes the system. Any coach with half a brain would implement a system based on the players he has, but Sullivan doesn't do that. He'd rather implement a system he likes and lose doing it over implementing a system that works for the team but he doesn't like.

Sullivan is insisting on this team playing a fast, high-tempo forechecking game when the team is old and simply does not have the speed for it. Rather than adjusting the system to fit the players he has, he just keeps running the same ill-fitting system and then acts dumbfounded when it doesn't work. This team isn't very good, but Sullivan is intentionally making them worse because he's a stubborn moron who's rather lose than admit he's wrong.

 

[hotpaws]

Literally any coach available would do a better job on this team than Sullivan.

Sullivan is playing a system that his players do not fit simply because he's arrogant and likes the system. Any coach with half a brain would implement a system based on the players he has, but Sullivan doesn't do that. He'd rather implement a system he likes and lose doing it over implementing a system that works for the team but he doesn't like.

and what is this magic system that will turn the Pens into a quality team Dekes ?

 

[Empoleon8771]

and what is this magic system that will turn the Pens into a quality team Dekes ?

Literally any system that doesn't rely on speed for an old as shit team with slow players. They could run a trap system and at least be competent, but Sullivan doesn't want to do that. He'd rather lose playing his way.

It's hilarious seeing these Leafs fans come in here trying to tell Penguins fans what is wrong with their team. Dubas hasn't done a good job as GM, but trying to defend Sullivan and shifting blame to Dubas is a dead giveaway that you're clueless and don't actually watch the Penguins. This is a mediocre roster that ends up a bad team because Mike Sullivan is a stubborn fool who's rather lose than admit he's wrong.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Aside from a few exceptions, the team is just full of players who couldn't stick elsewhere or guys who aren't the players they used to be, and that's not just the stars.

On top of that parity is really high. Pens don't have a horrible roster, but who are the teams you can say are for sure worse than them?

Not exactly a recipe for success. Sullivan's tenure should be over, but I doubt another coach can turn this thing around long-term.

 

[hotpaws]

Literally any system that doesn't rely on speed for an old as shit team with slow players. They could run a trap system and at least be competent, but Sullivan doesn't want to do that. He'd rather lose playing his way.

It's hilarious seeing these Leafs fans come in here trying to tell Penguins fans what is wrong with their team. Dubas hasn't done a good job as GM, but trying to defend Sullivan and shifting blame to Dubas is a dead giveaway that you're clueless and don't actually watch the Penguins.

yeah nothing screams a trap player like EK , lol

and yeah Dubas is the goat GM , it's Shanny and now Sully who are undermining his brilliance lol , never change Dekes

 

[Empoleon8771]

yeah nothing screams a trap player like EK , lol

and yeah Dubas is the goat GM , it's Shanny and now Sully who are undermining his brilliance lol , never change Dekes

Can you not read? Literally in the post I said "Dubas hasn't done a good job at GM". Leafs fans are just clowns who want to shit on Dubas because their own team is a bunch of losers. Dubas isn't even good but Leafs fans just look like clowns trying to blame the Penguins issues on him.

Dubas has done a bad job as the Penguins GM because of adding Karlsson (who looks like a "good player on a bad team" player) and the UFA deals to guys like Jarry and Graves. That's not why the Penguins today are bad. They're bad today because a coach 3+ years past his expiration date is trying to implement a system based on the idea that this team is still in 2018, and he'd rather lose than admit his system doesn't fit the team and adjust. And it's not just him for why that's the case, everyone in the organization (players, management and owners all) just suck him off to the point where he thinks he's right and there is no other way.

Leafs fans can just jerk off to this idea that Dubas is the sole reason this team sucks, probably because it makes them feel better that their team is full of a bunch of losers who won't win shit and will continue the Leafs 60 year trend of not winning shit. But anyone who actually watches the Penguins can easily identify the problems on this team, and while Dubas has sure as hell not been a positive he's not the reason this team sucks.

 

[hotpaws]

Can you not read? Literally in the post I said "Dubas hasn't done a good job at GM". Leafs fans are just clowns who want to shit on Dubas because their own team is a bunch of losers. Dubas isn't even good but Leafs fans just look like clowns trying to blame the Penguins issues on him.

Dubas has done a bad job as the Penguins GM because of adding Karlsson (who looks like a "good player on a bad team" player) and the UFA deals to guys like Jarry and Graves. That's not why the Penguins today are bad. They're bad today because a coach 3+ years past his expiration date is trying to implement a system based on the idea that this team is still in 2018, and he'd rather lose than admit his system doesn't fit the team and adjust. And it's not just him for why that's the case, everyone in the organization (players, management and owners all) just suck him off to the point where he thinks he's right and there is no other way.

Leafs fans can just jerk off to this idea that Dubas is the sole reason this team sucks, probably because it makes them feel better that their team is full of a bunch of losers who won't win shit and will continue the Leafs 60 year trend of not winning shit. But anyone who actually watches the Penguins can easily identify the problems on this team, and while Dubas has sure as hell not been a positive he's not the reason this team sucks.

wow , y u b so angry Dekes ?

yup everyone's a clown because they don't blame all the Pens problems on Sully , funny thing is if you could read you'd see i wasn't defending Sully but just saying it doesn't matter who your coach is with the retool Dumbass did , your team still would go nowhere with a different coach

for some reason this triggers you

 

[Empoleon8771]

wow , y u b so angry Dekes ?

yup everyone's a clown because they don't blame all the Pens problems on Sully , funny thing is if you could read you'd see i wasn't defending Sully but just saying it doesn't matter who your coach is with the retool Dumbass did , your team still would go nowhere with a different coach

for some reason this triggers you

Spoken like someone who doesn't watch the Penguins and has no clue about their problems.

Like I said, Dubas sure as hell hasn't been a positive for this team but blaming him for why they suck just outs you as being clueless. This team sucks because they have a coach about 4 years past his expiration date who'd rather lose playing "his style" over trying to play any sort of way that actually fits the roster.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Literally any system that doesn't rely on speed for an old as shit team with slow players. They could run a trap system and at least be competent, but Sullivan doesn't want to do that. He'd rather lose playing his way.

It's hilarious seeing these Leafs fans come in here trying to tell Penguins fans what is wrong with their team. Dubas hasn't done a good job as GM, but trying to defend Sullivan and shifting blame to Dubas is a dead giveaway that you're clueless and don't actually watch the Penguins. This is a mediocre roster that ends up a bad team because Mike Sullivan is a stubborn fool who's rather lose than admit he's wrong.

They tried to not rely on speed last year and also missed the playoffs. They're just old.

 

[Empoleon8771]

They tried to not rely on speed last year and also missed the playoffs. They're just old.

They've run the same system in the last 2 years and continue to have it not working because they don't have the players for it.

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[hotpaws]

Spoken like someone who doesn't watch the Penguins and has no clue about their problems.

Like I said, Dubas sure as hell hasn't been a positive for this team but blaming him for why they suck just outs you as being clueless. This team sucks because they have a coach about 4 years past his expiration date who'd rather lose playing "his style" over trying to play any sort of way that actually fits the roster.

what's clueless is believing a coaching change would make the Pens a quality team

They tried to not rely on speed last year and also missed the playoffs. They're just old.

and last year Dekes said that was the wrong system as well

 

[Empoleon8771]

what's clueless is believing a coaching change would make the Pens a quality team

Okay thanks for confirming you just can't read. It's almost like I said this:

This is a mediocre roster that ends up a bad team because Mike Sullivan is a stubborn fool who's rather lose than admit he's wrong.

Leafs fans are downright insufferable in any discussion that is even adjacent to Dubas. I can say "Dubas has done a bad job for the Penguins" but apparently not blaming him on literally every single issue isn't enough. Go watch you loser team lose in round 1 again, go be insufferable somewhere else.

 

[hotpaws]

Okay thanks for confirming you just can't read. It's almost like I said this:



Leafs fans are downright insufferable in any discussion that is even adjacent to Dubas. I can say "Dubas has done a bad job for the Penguins" but apparently not blaming him on literally every single issue isn't enough. Go watch you loser team lose in round 1 again, go be insufferable somewhere else.

or so your problem is you want to finish with the 22nd best record as opposed to 29th best record

and no one is saying Sully is doing a good job and shouldn't be fired , people are just saying regardless who the coach is the team will still be bad since Dubas did a brutal retool

your getting pissy because your want to downplay how bad a GM Dubas is and shift ALL THE ATTENTION to Sully and not everyone is buying your bullshit

 

[Empoleon8771]

or so your problem is you want to finish with the 22nd best record as opposed to 29th best record

and no one is saying Sully is doing a good job and shouldn't be fired , people are just saying regardless who the coach is the team will still be bad since Dubas did a brutal retool

your getting pissy because your want to downplay how bad a GM Dubas is and shift ALL THE ATTENTION to Sully and not everyone is buying your bullshit

Or maybe I actually watch and follow the Penguins and can identify their issues, rather than a Leafs fan who wants to talk shit about Dubas from the outside solely because he was the old Leafs GM that you want to shit talk.

Go on the Penguins board and ask how people blame Dubas vs Sullivan for the state of this team. People won't absolve Dubas but the overwhelming majority of the blame will be on Sullivan. Which is completely in line with what I'm saying here.

 

[Turin]

Looking at it, Jim Rutherford rage quitting was pretty much it for the Crosby era. Damn.

 

[Dust]

or so your problem is you want to finish with the 22nd best record as opposed to 29th best record

and no one is saying Sully is doing a good job and shouldn't be fired , people are just saying regardless who the coach is the team will still be bad since Dubas did a brutal retool

your getting pissy because your want to downplay how bad a GM Dubas is and shift ALL THE ATTENTION to Sully and not everyone is buying your bullshit

They were the 19th worst team last year and probably sneak into a playoff spot with better coaching. Doesn't say a ton because the East was terrible after the top 6 last season, but it's something.

 

[hotpaws]

Or maybe I actually watch and follow the Penguins and can identify their issues, rather than a Leafs fan who wants to talk shit about Dubas from the outside solely because he was the old Leafs GM that you want to shit talk.

Go on the Penguins board and ask how people blame Dubas vs Sullivan for the state of this team. People won't absolve Dubas but the overwhelming majority of the blame will be on Sullivan. Which is completely in line with what I'm saying here.

so your saying the issues aren't the roster but the coach ? if you believe a coaching change is all that's needed to turn the Pens into a quality team then you don't have a clue what your watching

but your not saying that right ? what your really saying is Sully is crap and Dubas is a bad and the roster isn't good but you only want to shit talk Sully because um reasons !

oh and if you change coach's you'll be less bad

am i getting your rant correct ?

 

[Empoleon8771]

so your saying the issues aren't the roster but the coach ? if you believe a coaching change is all that's needed to turn the Pens into a quality team then you don't have a clue what your watching

but your not saying that right ? what your really saying is Sully is crap and Dubas is a bad and the roster isn't good but you only want to shit talk Sully because um reasons !

oh and if you change coach's you'll be less bad

am i getting your rant correct ?

Like I said, go on the Penguins board and ask other Penguins fans. Ask them whether the team's issues are primary because of Sullivan's coaching decisions of Dubas' roster decisions. No one will defend the job Dubas has done but everyone will say the blame lies primarily on Sullivan. Because we all watch the team and see the problem with the team.

 

[hotpaws]

They were the 19th worst team last year and probably sneak into a playoff spot with better coaching. Doesn't say a ton because the East was terrible after the top 6 last season, but it's something.

maybe but the east is better this year and the Pens aren't getting any younger or better so i doubt they even sniff the playoffs with a better coaching

 

[Dust]

maybe but the east is better this year and the Pens aren't getting any younger or better so i doubt they even sniff the playoffs with a better coaching

I'm not convinced the East is any better this year, but we'll see how it plays out.