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Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

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GKJ said:
The idea that it’s not a great draft was said out loud on hockey night in Canada last night
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Let’s remember the rationale behind trading a 2024 1st rd pick for an Edmonton’s 2025 1st rd pick. Flahrsy thought 2025 was a special draft. Wrong.

Also, if you are going to make that trade, you don’t make it with Edmonton, who is assured of finishing at the bottom of the round.

Lastly, at the time, I could not come up with one instance in the NHL or any other major sport where a team traded a current year 1st rd pick for a future first and didn’t receive a premium for it. It does not happen, ever.
 
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Tarpongg said:
Lastly, at the time, I could not come up with one instance in the NHL or any other major sport where a team traded a current year 1st rd pick for a future first and didn’t receive a premium for it. It does not happen, ever.
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That's because there isn't one. It's the dumbest trade in the history of the franchise.

Everything else you want to name can come down to simply disagreeing on a player evaluation. That's going to happen frequently. Nothing else incinerated everything we know about trade value in North American pro sports. That's not just smartest guy in the room stuff. It's smartest team to ever live. It's the type of trade you read about a defunct franchise making in 1956 and think about how far front offices have come.
 
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Tarpongg said:
Let’s remember the rationale behind trading a 2024 1st rd pick for an Edmonton’s 2025 1st rd pick. Flahrsy thought 2025 was a special draft. Wrong.

Also, if you are going to make that trade, you don’t make it with Edmonton, who is assured of finishing at the bottom of the round.

Lastly, at the time, I could not come up with one instance in the NHL or any other major sport where a team traded a current year 1st rd pick for a future first and didn’t receive a premium for it. It does not happen, ever.
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No one’s ever assured of anything, we’ve seen plenty of teams go to the finals and crater the following season. Unfortunately, one of them wasn’t Florida.

If the playoffs started today, Colorado and Edmonton play each other, two teams you’d expect to be in the conference final, and the Flyers own both picks, which means one of them has to be in third quarter of the draft, and if Colorado were to lose it would be like 18th.
 
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I have been looking at landing spots for Risto if there are any. The most likely spot to me seems to be Toronto, who is going for it and needs defensive help. Specifically, they could use a big, physical, right shot defender who can skate. Risto fits the bill. They don’t have a first this year, but have a second and a third. They have a first next year though and are lacking a second. Their prospects are weak. Only Easton Cowan and I’m not sold on him. They also will have cap issues in trying to get Risto on board. The Flyers would probably have to eat 50% of his contract. If that was the case the Flyers would need that 27 first in the deal. I don’t know if that works for either team, but I don’t see much of a market out there and similar chips are already moving (Pitt/ Van Petterson move).
Does anyone see a realistic move for the Flyers at the deadline ( not a crazy, Briere is an idiot and will trade Tippett for Ryan Reaves nonsense please).
 
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IronMarshal said:
I have been looking at landing spots for Risto if there are any. The most likely spot to me seems to be Toronto, who is going for it and needs defensive help. Specifically, they could use a big, physical, right shot defender who can skate. Risto fits the bill. They don’t have a first this year, but have a second and a third. They have a first next year though and are lacking a second. Their prospects are weak. Only Easton Cowan and I’m not sold on him. They also will have cap issues in trying to get Risto on board. The Flyers would probably have to eat 50% of his contract. If that was the case the Flyers would need that 27 first in the deal. I don’t know if that works for either team, but I don’t see much of a market out there and similar chips are already moving (Pitt/ Van Petterson move).
Does anyone see a realistic move for the Flyers at the deadline ( not a crazy, Briere is an idiot and will trade Tippett for Ryan Reaves nonsense please).
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The best plan for the Flyers is trying to avoid retention by absorbing salary roughly equivalent to Risto's deal extending into at least next year, if they're trading with Toronto. Kampf and Jarnkrok make $4.5 combined this year and next, and Kampf is salary relief into Risto's last year, so Risto for Kampf, Jarnkrok, potentially Nick Robertson, and then picks or low end prospects to balance it out.
 
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IronMarshal said:
Yes they have. I’m not down on Briere at this point. I am being patient. But most of the teams in playoff contention have already moved their draft picks.
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How can you not be down on briere? he’s basically got cucks negotiating prowess with Hextall’s half rebuild philosophy. I’m like 95% certain this is going to end with Michkov being run out of town by his UFA years because he can’t drag a team full of grinders to the Stanley cup by himself.
 
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