Rumor: Things Not Left Unsaid 3 - Flyers Rumors and Media Mentions: Never Ending Circles

[thedjpd]

DiMarco speculating Drysdale and Farabee for Cozens.

This time last year would you have traded Gauthier and Farabee for Cozens and a 2nd?

I would’ve said no

Where do you see this? Can you share?

Yes, and fit doesn't make sense. Last thing Buffalo needs is more finesse offensive d-men.

 

[ponder719]

Where do you see this? Can you share?

Yes, and fit doesn't make sense. Last thing Buffalo needs is more finesse offensive d-men.

Back in playoff hunt, Flyers’ trading posture has changed

The Flyers still want to improve, but now they’re negotiating from a position of leverage.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

 

[freakydallas13]

I find it difficult to imagine the Flyers are ready to admit defeat on Drysdale this early. They still need to save face from Briere's horrendous trade and not enough time has passed that they could sweep it under the rug.

 

[ponder719]

I have him as flat negative value on that contract and would require major incentive to take him on.

That peak was him randomly shooting 15% for an entire season despite never showing another sign of being a good finisher.

He is horrendous defensively. I am open to the idea of him being more valuable if you agree to never put him at Center again and accept him as a complimentary Middle 6 one way Winger. Those guys are more than fine if you just get the one that happens to be cheap. With Cozens, you have to eat the contract AND trade something real for him. Hard no for me. Not as hard as Drysdale, but not that far either.

If we're iterating on this to try and make something worthwhile here:

Farabee, Drysdale, and Laughton
-for-
Cozens and Byram

The upgrade from Drysdale to Byram feels like a good counterbalance to the risk of Cozens' deal, Laughton makes the money work out a lot better, and giving Buffalo a strong veteran presence might actually be of value to them beyond what he brings on the ice. I'm not really seeing a ton of emotional leaders on that roster.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The Sabres pulling ANOTHER one over on the Flyers will be somewhat entertaining.

Considering we keep hearing about how Buffalo is some worst-case scenario despite being the same as us, it would be really hilarious to keep losing moves to this supposed subhuman pile of inferior materials.

 

[flyersnorth]

I have him as flat negative value on that contract and would require major incentive to take him on.

That peak was him randomly shooting 15% for an entire season despite never showing another sign of being a good finisher.

He is horrendous defensively. I am open to the idea of him being more valuable if you agree to never put him at Center again and accept him as a complimentary Middle 6 one way Winger. Those guys are more than fine if you just get the one that happens to be cheap. With Cozens, you have to eat the contract AND trade something real for him. Hard no for me. Not as hard as Drysdale, but not that far either.

Thanks for the reply.

My guess is there's no way Briere would be acquiring him to be a winger.

If we agree that there is no (future) 1C on the team or in the organization, and that Cozens is not that guy, then what are we doing?

I would think it makes more sense to spend high-value assets to acquire someone who can fit that role (though I know teams don't usually trade those guys), than to acquire yet another middle of the roster player. Or put yourself in a position to acquire that kind of player through the draft.

If moving forward, Cozens is a 2C, Coots is a 3C, do you want to be paying your middle Cs $14.8M?

Hard no.

 

[flyersnorth]

An interesting thing I heard yesterday was Keith Jones' quote on a recent radio (I think?) interview.

He was asked about their focus for the trading deadline, and he said "We are not looking to add players, we are looking to subtract players."

 

[BillDineen]

An interesting thing I heard yesterday was Keith Jones' quote on a recent radio (I think?) interview.

He was asked about their focus for the trading deadline, and he said "We are not looking to add players, we are looking to subtract player

1h17 mark:

 

[FlyerNutter]

I’ll be happy with Byram. Cool to be an illogical fanboy. Love him, think there is more there.

Cozens can f*** off.

Will laugh to high hell if they move Humpty Dumpty.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

An interesting thing I heard yesterday was Keith Jones' quote on a recent radio (I think?) interview.

He was asked about their focus for the trading deadline, and he said "We are not looking to add players, we are looking to subtract players."

 

[Cody Webster]

Funny how DuhMarco puts out that article after this was posted yesterday

 

[deadhead]

If we're iterating on this to try and make something worthwhile here:

Farabee, Drysdale, and Laughton
-for-
Cozens and Byram

The upgrade from Drysdale to Byram feels like a good counterbalance to the risk of Cozens' deal, Laughton makes the money work out a lot better, and giving Buffalo a strong veteran presence might actually be of value to them beyond what he brings on the ice. I'm not really seeing a ton of emotional leaders on that roster.

I'm not sure Byram is an upgrade over Drysdale.
And we'd be better off moving a RW. Farabee is our only true LW unless Couts moves over.

 

[deadhead]

An interesting thing I heard yesterday was Keith Jones' quote on a recent radio (I think?) interview.

He was asked about their focus for the trading deadline, and he said "We are not looking to add players, we are looking to subtract players."

That makes sense. They have too many middle six types and a couple players (Laughton, Risto) who won't be around in 3 years. And with Jett, Bonk, et al and 6 picks in the 1st two rounds this summer, they're looking for quality over quantity.

So either an upgrade or more draft picks to build up a "war chest."

 

[freakydallas13]

And with Jett, Bonk, et al

I like how you wrote "et al" here, as it we had anyone else in the prospect pool that mattered.

 

[ponder719]

I'm not sure Byram is an upgrade over Drysdale.
And we'd be better off moving a RW. Farabee is our only true LW unless Couts moves over.

Agree to disagree on Byram, but I'm fine moving a RW instead of Farabee. I'll happily include Tippett instead, the money's better and I don't have to put up with 3 weeks of Tippett Wide for each week of Tippett Home.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Funny how DuhMarco puts out that article after this was posted yesterday

I was told hes a rockstar up and comer in the hockey beat business.

 

[bennysflyers16]

I find it difficult to imagine the Flyers are ready to admit defeat on Drysdale this early. They still need to save face from Briere's horrendous trade and not enough time has passed that they could sweep it under the rug.

They would sell Cozens as a superstar !

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I was told hes a rockstar up and comer in the hockey beat business.

That guy is a straight up clown lol the only thing he has done is break news that others beat him to

 

[Rich Nixon]

I was told hes a rockstar up and comer in the hockey beat business.

I strongly, strongly suspect he's just a dumping ground for Flyers management narratives.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I find it difficult to imagine the Flyers are ready to admit defeat on Drysdale this early. They still need to save face from Briere's horrendous trade and not enough time has passed that they could sweep it under the rug.

Well, they need to. He sucks, honestly.

If we're iterating on this to try and make something worthwhile here:

Farabee, Drysdale, and Laughton
-for-
Cozens and Byram

The upgrade from Drysdale to Byram feels like a good counterbalance to the risk of Cozens' deal, Laughton makes the money work out a lot better, and giving Buffalo a strong veteran presence might actually be of value to them beyond what he brings on the ice. I'm not really seeing a ton of emotional leaders on that roster.

Do it in a heartbeat.

Cozens definitely has 1C potential. No one should be writing him off right now. Likewise with Byfield, with LA being another rumored trading partner.

Byram is a million times better than Drysdale. Byram is actually a good hockey player, not just a kid that skates very well trying to play hockey.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I find it difficult to imagine the Flyers are ready to admit defeat on Drysdale this early. They still need to save face from Briere's horrendous trade and not enough time has passed that they could sweep it under the rug.

dont worry they will have a whole new even worse rug to display...

 

[deadhead]

Well, they need to. He sucks, honestly.


Do it in a heartbeat.

Cozens definitely has 1C potential. No one should be writing him off right now. Likewise with Byfield, with LA being another rumored trading partner.

Byram is a million times better than Drysdale. Byram is actually a good hockey player, not just a kid that skates very well trying to play hockey.

Byram is not a good hockey player, which is why he's available.
I'd like to see if Drysdale has turned the corner, since he's returned to the lineup he's been very good.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Byram is not a good hockey player, which is why he's available.
I'd like to see if Drysdale has turned the corner, since he's returned to the lineup he's been very good.

Yes, he is. And no, that's not why he's available. They have 4 LHD in their top 4 and they need a RHD, combined with Byram is a RFA after this season.

Drysdale has been replaced by Andrae. I don't see him outplaying Andrae any time soon.

 

[deadhead]

Andrae is a LHD, Drysdale a RHD.
Byram is getting big minutes, but Dahlin is the only Sabre D-man playing at a top 4 level right now
It would come down to Shaw seeing something he can fix.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Byram is not a good hockey player, which is why he's available.
I'd like to see if Drysdale has turned the corner, since he's returned to the lineup he's been very good.

I'm not a Byram fan either, but this kind of framing is why you get called a homer. They've both been poor everywhere. A couple of games is utterly meaningless.