These goalie interference calls are getting ridiculous

[ChadBigly]

It's EVERY LITTLE THING now. The slightest graze is apparently eough to stop a goalie from making a save. It's happening to every team. and it's complete garbage. If you're a goalie at this point it's probably a good strategy to just go bump into anyone even remotely near your crease - create the contact yourself. I mean why not, right? They call f..king EVERYTHING now.

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[SabresFan26]

Assume this is from the Buffalo game. They got robbed. Wasn’t any contact and the defenseman boxed him in.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

It's EVERY LITTLE THING now. The slightest graze is apparently eough to stop a goalie from making a save. It's happening to every team. and it's complete garbage. If you're a goalie at this point it's probably a good strategy to just go bump into anyone even remotely near your crease - create the contact yourself. I mean why not, right? They call f..king EVERYTHING now.

They've called them with a guy in the crease without touching a goalie. The rule is woo

 

[ChadBigly]

Assume this is from the Buffalo game. They got robbed. Wasn’t any contact and the defenseman boxed him in.

Yep its from buffallo, but that's just the straw that broke the camels back. It's happening to everybody. Every one of these video reviews is bulls..t these days.

They've called them with a guy in the crease without touching a goalie. The rule is woo

Yeah exactly. Wasnt the whole point of relaxing the crease rule to make it "no harm, no foul"? Wtf happened to that, NHL?

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Yep its from buffallo, but that's just the straw that broke the camels back. It's happening to everybody. Every one of these video reviews is bulls..t these days.


Yeah exactly. Wasnt the whole point of relaxing the crease rule to make it "no harm, no foul"? Wtf happened to that, NHL?

I've seen the same call get called interference and obvious ones with contact not. Both for and against my team. But I can say the same about tripping calls. NHL reffing is woo but it's in the written and unwritten rules.

 

[Viqsi]

It's EVERY LITTLE THING now. The slightest graze is apparently eough to stop a goalie from making a save. It's happening to every team. and it's complete garbage. If you're a goalie at this point it's probably a good strategy to just go bump into anyone even remotely near your crease - create the contact yourself. I mean why not, right? They call f..king EVERYTHING now.

Did the attacker skate into the crease under his own power?

Was he still in the crease when contact was made?

That is literally the only standard that matters. The only standard. If the attacker did that, there are no excuses. No ifs, ands, or buts. Contact with the goaltender when you have gone into the crease is Absolutely Forbidden and you will get no goal.

 

[Viqsi]

I've seen the same call get called interference and obvious ones with contact not. Both for and against my team. But I can say the same about tripping calls. NHL reffing is woo but it's in the written and unwritten rules.

Are you sure it's the same call? Remember the crease. The crease is what makes it comprehensible. If the attacker is in the crease in any fashion - even just sticking his butt out across the line - it's his fault, he is bad, and his contact with the goaltender of any kind will result in a no-goal. The crease is Forbidden Space.

 

[Viqsi]

First video I found:


No overhead so it's not definitive, but from what I can see Benson skated into the crease under his own power before he was pushed. Therefore, it's his fault. He went into the crease beforehand. No goal.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Are you sure it's the same call? Remember the crease. The crease is what makes it comprehensible. If the attacker is in the crease in any fashion - even just sticking his butt out across the line - it's his fault, he is bad, and his contact with the goaltender of any kind will result in a no-goal. The crease is Forbidden Space.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm talking about no contact calls for a player in the crease that get called and obvious contact ones that don't. And like I said, they get called both ways which causes confusion.

 

[ChadBigly]

I've seen the same call get called interference and obvious ones with contact not. Both for and against my team. But I can say the same about tripping calls. NHL reffing is woo but it's in the written and unwritten rules.

No there is no excuse for the inconsistency of it. And for the complete BS these calls are. This was not happening on this scale last year. I follow a few different teams and it's happened in almost every game i've watched this year. Either my team or the other. Every single game (seemingly) has at least one completely ridiculous goalie interference call. I's been getting more and more pedantic over the last few years, but this has gone WAY too far. Whoever's working that booth in Toronto should be fired, and the rules revisited.

 

[Viqsi]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I talking about no contact calls for a player in the crease that get called and obvious contact ones that don't. And like I said, they get called both ways which causes confusion.

I haven't seen examples of the latter so I couldn't say. Just that whenever folks freak about about these calls, 99.9% of the time it's because they're not paying any attention whatsoever to who's in the crease and how they got there, when that's like 90% of what determines the call. It's like trying to debate whether or not a play is offside without looking at where the puck is or even having an awareness of that being the important factor.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

No there is no excuse for the inconsistency of it. And for the complete BS these calls are. This was not happening on this scale last year. I follow a few different teams and it's happened in almost every game i've watched this year. Either my team or the other. Every single game (seemingly) has at least one completely ridiculous goalie interference call. I's been getting more and more pedantic over the last few years, but this has gone WAY too far. Whoever's working that booth in Toronto should be fired, and the rules revisited.

It happens every year

 

[BB79]

First video I found:


No overhead so it's not definitive, but from what I can see Benson skated into the crease under his own power before he was pushed. Therefore, it's his fault. He went into the crease beforehand. No goal.

Did the video end early? I didn't see any goalie interference anywhere

 

[Viqsi]

No there is no excuse for the inconsistency of it. And for the complete BS these calls are. This was not happening on this scale last year. I follow a few different teams and it's happened in almost every game i've watched this year. Either my team or the other. Every single game (seemingly) has at least one completely ridiculous goalie interference call. I's been getting more and more pedantic over the last few years, but this has gone WAY too far. Whoever's working that booth in Toronto should be fired, and the rules revisited.

This one isn't ridiculous at all. It's obvious enough that you can tell even without the overhead angle. The onus is on Benson to stay the hell out of the crease.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

I haven't seen examples of the latter so I couldn't say. Just that whenever folks freak about about these calls, 99.9% of the time it's because they're not paying any attention whatsoever to who's in the crease and how they got there, when that's like 90% of what determines the call. It's like trying to debate whether or not a play is offside without looking at where the puck is or even having an awareness of that being the important factor.

The problem is, and I keep repeating this, it's not called consistently. Most calls aren't and that leads to us all freaking out.

 

[Viqsi]

Did the video end early? I didn't see any goalie interference anywhere

Benson skated into the crease under his own power, so he is now at fault if there is any contact whatosever between him and the goaltender no matter what the source of that contact is. He made contact with the goaltender as the goal was being scored. Yes, he was pushed, but that's not relevant because, again, he skated into the crease under his own power and so he is at fault regardless. Therefore, it is goaltender interference.

Seriously, I can't emphasize this "stay the hell out of the crease" part enough.

 

[Romang67]

Stop skating into the crease, you numnuts.

 

[Viqsi]

The problem is, and I keep repeating this, it's not called consistently. Most calls aren't and that leads to us all freaking out.

So far as I've seen it seems consistent to me. I've not seen folks freak out as much over goals that should have been called off that involved contact with an attacker that entered the crease.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

So far as I've seen it seems consistent to me. I've not seen folks freak out as much over goals that should have been called off that involved contact with an attacker that entered the crease.

What I'm saying is both are called and not called. If you haven't seen that, congrats.

 

[BB79]

They've called them with a guy in the crease without touching a goalie.

Except when that prick Hull did it

 

[Chainshot]

Seems all of the review calls are just made up on the spot. Hand pass? Offsides? Crease violations? All sorts of times calls on consecutive nights are different from one another.

 

[Viqsi]

What I'm saying is both are called and not called. If you haven't seen that, congrats.

In that case I doubt it's any more inconsistent than any other rule enforcement.

 

[Lou Sassole]

Benson skated into the crease under his own power, so he is now at fault if there is any contact whatosever between him and the goaltender no matter what the source of that contact is. He made contact with the goaltender as the goal was being scored. Yes, he was pushed, but that's not relevant because, again, he skated into the crease under his own power and so he is at fault regardless. Therefore, it is goaltender interference.

Seriously, I can't emphasize this "stay the hell out of the crease" part enough.

The rule sucks.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Again. Players need to learn to stay out of the crease.

 

[Viqsi]

Except when that prick Hull did it

The rules were different back then. Indeed, the skate-in-the-crease rule was changed to the current, somewhat-more-lenient-to-the-attacker version precisely because of that Hull incident.