The top 10 Dman who played at least 1000 minutes 5on5 in relative xGF% and the bottom 10

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Oml I just realized Dallas has both Dumba and Lyubushkin yikes.

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[M2Beezy]

Translation?

 

[DearDiary]

I always knew Gudas was a #1 Dman

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Translation?

Top 10 are Dman who are well above their peers in positive impact and bottom 10 are the biggest liability for their team.

I always knew Gudas was a #1 Dman

I mean compared to the other Dman on the Ducks, he definitely was a positive veteran force. The others were either bad or inexperienced rookies.

 

[I am Bettman]

This seems like it just punishes defenseman who get lots of d-zone deployment and have good goalies. Of course Brandon Carlo has bad expected numbers, he had the 4th highest defensive zone start percentage in the league on a team which depended on their goaltenders to make tons of saves.

 

[ijuka]

Looks like Bouchard is busy being a negative influence in 5on5 again.

If this forum is to be believed.

 

[Mr Kot]

One Oilers pair in top 10, one in bottom 10.
Yep, that's patented oilers brand hockey I tell ya

 

[catnip]

Those are sort of interconnected, aren't they? If Bouchard-Ekholm is on the ice while all the goals are being scored, some other pairing - let's say Nurse-Ceci - needs to be bleeding goals against. Or the other way around. So each end of the list is sort of reserved for defenders on not so well-balanced teams.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Looks like Bouchard is busy being a negative influence in 5on5 again.

If this forum is to be believed.

Having a negative xGA is a good thing.

 

[DearDiary]

Top 10 are Dman who are well above their peers in positive impact and bottom 10 are the biggest liability for their team.

But your chart doesn't show that. Carlo is playing difficult minutes, while Valimaki for instance plays sheltered minutes.

Notice how Vlasic and Sanderson are near the top in GF%, while also playing the most difficult minutes in the league. Both are by far the best Dmen in that top 10 you posted.

 

[acor]

135-Ryan Lindgren... Why im not surprised?

 

[forever1922]

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Oml I just realized Dallas has both Dumba and Lyubushkin yikes.

This table is not what you claim it is.

 

[Bank Shot]

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Oml I just realized Dallas has both Dumba and Lyubushkin yikes.

This table is pretty useless without context.

 

[TageGod]

A negative GA is a good thing here I assume? Yikes for Byram.

 

[CarlSneep]

I wonder which Edmonton defensive pairing played with McDavid. Hmm…

 

[HabsQC]

Wow what a shit stat

 

[norrisnick]

This seems like it just punishes defenseman who get lots of d-zone deployment and have good goalies. Of course Brandon Carlo has bad expected numbers, he had the 4th highest defensive zone start percentage in the league on a team which depended on their goaltenders to make tons of saves.

#8 Olli played on the literal most sheltered pairing in the NHL this past season.

 

[Three On Zero]

Wow what a shit stat

It’s a really poor advanced stat and most people don’t use it correctly. This thread being an example of that.

 

[OiledGun]

This looks like it’s relative numbers, I.e. how you did compared to your teammates, so to have a pairing right at the top you would need a d man wayyyy at the bottom.
You can’t really use this to compare players from different teams, as the situations aren’t the same.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Watch games

 

[BKarchitect]

 

[Mr Kot]

Watch games

no u

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Nonsense

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I wonder which Edmonton defensive pairing played with McDavid. Hmm…

Yeah if that were relevant Bouchard and Ekholm would have struggled in minutes without him but that didn't happen

 

[thefutures]

Jesus nurse might be the worst contract of all time