The state of the Habs Rebuild - The Next step

What note you give to Kent Hughes' Rebuild? ?

  • A

    Votes: 209 49.8%
  • B

    Votes: 154 36.7%
  • C

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • D

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • E

    Votes: 2 0.5%
  • F

    Votes: 11 2.6%

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Lafleurs Guy

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Jul 20, 2007
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empty or heavily biased criticism is useless regardless of rebuild status... There's a big difference between critique and mindless emotional ranting.

That's apparently hard for some to understand no matter how many times their hot takes prove baseless or refuted over time... As the Slaf thread last season "should" have taught some.
The reality is that some players won’t pan out. It’s unfortunate but true.

Dach was pretty blue chip before his injury but now has struggled to come back. And… maybe he never will. I don’t think that’s the case but it’s possible. Likewise Newhook looked good last year but had injury problems.

This year the whole club is off. I’d attribute it to the system but who knows? It doesn’t change the big picture though. The team is still well positioned for the future. We may have some holes we didn’t expect- 2nd line center for example - but our Laval players are killing it, Demidov, Hage and RB are on the way… still a great place to be.

We’re not even a quarter into the season yet. Let’s see where it goes. Still lots of time for guys like Dach and Newhook to find their game.
 
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teamfirst

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empty or heavily biased criticism is useless regardless of rebuild status... There's a big difference between critique and mindless emotional ranting.

That's apparently hard for some to understand no matter how many times their hot takes prove baseless or refuted over time... As the Slaf thread last season "should" have taught some.

That's the thing tho with opinions no matter how much YOU think that they're baseless or that you refuted them doesn't mean that you're right......it still just your opinion.
 
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LaP

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Jun 27, 2012
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That's the thing tho with opinions no matter how much YOU think that they're baseless or that you refuted them doesn't mean that you're right......it still just your opinion.
I'm lost. So basically if you successfully refute an "opinion" with facts that "opinion" might still be right? Are you a flat earth believer?

An opinion is saying i dislike The Tree of Life or i like Avengers: Endgame. Or i prefer the color blue. Those are opinions. They usually can't be refuted because well they are opinions.

It's okay to not like Slaf as a player. But he is a good prospect. There's only 66 players in NHL history who did 50+ points as a 19 years old and easily half of them became very good players and that's not an opinion that's quantifiable.
 
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HuGo Sham

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I'm lost. So basically if you successfully refute an "opinion" with facts that "opinion" might still be right? Are you a flat earth believer?

An opinion is saying i dislike The Tree of Life or i like Avengers: Endgame. Or i prefer the color blue. Those are opinions. They usually can't be refuted because well they are opinions.

It's okay to not like Slaf as a player. But he is a good prospect. There's only 66 players in NHL history who did 50+ points as a 19 years old and easily half of them became very good players and that's not an opinion that's quantifiable.
random Terrence Malick shoutout
 

habamillions

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I give it a B+. He was put in a really tough spot with terrible contracts like gally,andy and armia. Like his drafting for the most part especially last year. Only thing i havent liked is the picks of reinbacher and mesar. Hope they work out in the future but right now looks like a miss, but still early in there careers
 

themilosh

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I give it a B+. He was put in a really tough spot with terrible contracts like gally,andy and armia. Like his drafting for the most part especially last year. Only thing i havent liked is the picks of reinbacher and mesar. Hope they work out in the future but right now looks like a miss, but still early in there careers
Imo the only big mistake Hugo made was drafting Mesar, what a complete whiff that was.. lol

While i (too) wanted Michkov i completely understood (and accepted) the Reinbacher selection, and am prepared to give him another 2 years (this year and next) to establish himself.. it makes sense to acquire a RHD.. a badly needed position for every NHL team: scarcity = value.

I'd love to use CC acquire a legit 2RD.. i know this is unpopular, but im simply not a fan of his game.. it's clear hugo knew if they selected Michkov then CC had to go, you cannot have two small wingers in your top 6.
 

LaP

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random Terrence Malick shoutout
I actually like the tree of life but i watched it while high so that probably helped. I said dislike because i did not want to get involved in a discussion with an anti-tree of lifer those guys are passionate to a religious level about their disdain for the movie.
 

HuGo Sham

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Apr 7, 2010
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I actually like the tree of life but i watched it while high so that probably helped. I said dislike because i did not want to get involved in a discussion with an anti-tree of lifer those guys are passionate to a religious level about their disdain for the movie.
it's a great film ...the haters ..dont @ me
 

Lafleurs Guy

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Jul 20, 2007
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I'm lost. So basically if you successfully refute an "opinion" with facts that "opinion" might still be right? Are you a flat earth believer?

An opinion is saying i dislike The Tree of Life or i like Avengers: Endgame. Or i prefer the color blue. Those are opinions. They usually can't be refuted because well they are opinions.

It's okay to not like Slaf as a player. But he is a good prospect. There's only 66 players in NHL history who did 50+ points as a 19 years old and easily half of them became very good players and that's not an opinion that's quantifiable.
Similarly, it’s fine to argue that you don’t want a rebuild. But when you say that rebuilds don’t work, it’s just factually wrong.

Rebuilding isn’t a guarantee- but nothing is. The vast majority of cup winners are rebuilds. That doesn’t mean that if you rebuild you’ll win a cup though.
 
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teamfirst

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I'm lost. So basically if you successfully refute an "opinion" with facts that "opinion" might still be right? Are you a flat earth believer?

An opinion is saying i dislike The Tree of Life or i like Avengers: Endgame. Or i prefer the color blue. Those are opinions. They usually can't be refuted because well they are opinions.

It's okay to not like Slaf as a player. But he is a good prospect. There's only 66 players in NHL history who did 50+ points as a 19 years old and easily half of them became very good players and that's not an opinion that's quantifiable.

Was not talking about Slaf, where did you take that, i,m one of the few around here who wanted Hugo to draft him 1st overall and still think he will be a great player, reading or comprehension problem maybe
 

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