Player Discussion The Slaf Thread - Parabolic Growth Edition

[The Gr8 Dane]

psycho slaf is something else man...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Arpon mentioning on TSN 690 that the Habs priority this summer is to get Slaf signed long term and they're hoping to get him into that Suzuki/Caufield structure.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Arpon mentioning on TSN 690 that the Habs priority this summer is to get Slaf signed long term and they're hoping to get him into that Suzuki/Caufield structure.

Lets take advantage of this young man!!! He's so humble and has great character let's fleece him

 

[WeThreeKings]

Lets take advantage of this young man!!! He's so humble and has great character let's fleece him

The thing about a contract is that both sides have to agree to it.. some guys actually leave some money on the table to win, unlike the Figs

 

[hardcorehabs]

Think he’d ink and 8x8 ?

 

[Sorinth]

Lets take advantage of this young man!!! He's so humble and has great character let's fleece him

Getting paid 60+ million isn't him being fleeced. That's him setting himself and his family up for life.

 

[Tyson]

Getting paid 60+ million isn't him being fleeced. That's him setting himself and his family up for life.

No kidding.

 

[Kosseca]

Think he’d ink and 8x8 ?

The odds are good. He only had 1/2 a season dominating the way he did. He was close to go back to Laval at some point. As an agent you can see this two way, sign now and you know you walk away from you career with $60M regardless of what happen next, or sign a 3yrs at 5 (so 15 total) with the hope the next one is a big fat one. He can bet on himself but an injury or lesser performance can yield a lower contract and "life time earning".

 

[Scriptor]

The odds are good. He only had 1/2 a season dominating the way he did. He was close to go back to Laval at some point. As an agent you can see this two way, sign now and you know you walk away from you career with $60M regardless of what happen next, or sign a 3yrs at 5 (so 15 total) with the hope the next one is a big fat one. He can bet on himself but an injury or lesser performance can yield a lower contract and "life time earning".

6 X 7.5M should be good enough, IMO. Leaves hims a 26-yr old tossing a mega contract that brings him through age 34 and earns him 45M + 3M as an ELC.

6 X 7.5M should be good enough, IMO. Leaves hims a 26-yr old signing a mega contract as a final big one that brings him through age 34 and earns him 45M + 3M as an ELC.

It also allows him to produce in the playoffs for three years when we start making them with hopes of going further in the playoffs.

 

[River Meadow]

Getting paid 60+ million isn't him being fleeced. That's him setting himself and his family up for life.

That's guaranteed money, too.

If anything happens to him or his body... it's GG, but with a contract, it's easier to swallow.

Arpon mentioning on TSN 690 that the Habs priority this summer is to get Slaf signed long term and they're hoping to get him into that Suzuki/Caufield structure.

Very smart.

The sooner the better.

 

[Habssince89]

Getting paid 60+ million isn't him being fleeced. That's him setting himself and his family up for life.

not to mention he'll make bank being one of the faces of the NHL in Europe, and being a star for the Habs.

 

[Montreal Impact FC]

No points tonight? Bust?

 

[CanadienShark]

Slaf, I am sorry that I wanted Wright over you. Just the difference in personality alone is huge. He seems like such a genuinely good person and an even better player. I happily admit that I was wrong.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He has the weight of a Nations fanbase on him and is showing zero signs of waffling, In fact, I think that weight helps to drive and propel him.

I am going to absolutely step in shit here.....but, I'll say it.....he has a Hart trophy in his future.

Agreed. Take away the worry of making a mistake and he just brings it. When he plays for his country, I don't think they coach him not to make a mistake. They lean on him as a leader and he thrives from it.

Wait till he fills in and gains more confidence. He's on a steep curve right now and difficult to know where it tops out at. That Size/Skill/Skating and forecheck (long stick) is deadly. Can play both a skill/skating game and also a physical game when he needs to.

One of his biggest annoyances from the opposition is his ability to cause disruption. He's great at causing turnovers and/or ruining a pass from the D in their break outs.

 

[loudi94]

I feel like he is the player that got the most out of having a guy like Xhekaj on the team. He had his own skill set but has also learned to be mean. Doesn't have to fight, but will insert himself and get in other people's faces. A guy like Pinto may think it's cute today, but give it a few years and it won't be so humorous.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Think he’d ink and 8x8 ?

I think so but depends on what his agent will feed him. Habs best pitch is to offer the Suzuki contract and see if it works. I do think the Habs would be reaching to some degree but it could be a good deal in the last 4/8 years.

Nobody knows where Slaf will max out at. Not even Slaf. The part that worries me is growth from our top 6 assets and how this helps Slaf reach big numbers.

* Suzuki is Suzuki. Quietly improves year/year.

* Caufield is flashy. Goes on hot/cold streaks. What you see is what you get at this point IMO.

* Dach getting injured was very deflating. If he has a healthy season, I am sure he shows his potential.

* Who knows what Roy does this year.

* Who knows what kind of top 6 asset we try to add.

 

[417]

The thing about a contract is that both sides have to agree to it.. some guys actually leave some money on the table to win, unlike the Figs

The large majority of players do not leave money on the table though and doing so, shouldn't be required to help your team win.

Arpon mentioning on TSN 690 that the Habs priority this summer is to get Slaf signed long term and they're hoping to get him into that Suzuki/Caufield structure.

Yeah I bet lol

 

[Tyson]

I can see Slaf's agent recommending a bridge deal, 2 years x 5 and roll the dice for a huge payday when he is 23

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lets take advantage of this young man!!! He's so humble and has great character let's fleece him

For as much as we like his development, He's not worth $8M today. IMO, 8x $6M would be him getting fleeced.

8x $8M would mean we are reaching to overpay him in the next 2 seasons (after EL), fair AAV for 3 more, and then possibly underpaid in the last 3.

Even if he becomes a 60-80 pts forward next year, does that mean he is worth more than $8M? The only way I see him getting fleeced with this deal is if he turns into a 80-100 pts forward.

 

[417]

I think so but depends on what his agent will feed him. Habs best pitch is to offer the Suzuki contract and see if it works. I do think the Habs would be reaching to some degree but it could be a good deal in the last 4/8 years.

Nobody knows where Slaf will max out at. Not even Slaf. The part that worries me is growth from our top 6 assets and how this helps Slaf reach big numbers.

* Suzuki is Suzuki. Quietly improves year/year.

* Caufield is flashy. Goes on hot/cold streaks. What you see is what you get at this point IMO.

* Dach getting injured was very deflating. If he has a healthy season, I am sure he shows his potential.

* Who knows what Roy does this year.

* Who knows what kind of top 6 asset we try to add.

He pays his agent to look after his best interest, so that's what he's going to do.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I can see Slaf's agent recommending a bridge deal, 2 years x 5 and roll the dice for a huge payday when he is 23

Yeah, the looming cap increase is also a factor. Agents will probably be all over this. If Slaf don't like the Suzuki offer this summer, I am perfectly fine with him playing out his ELC.

I'd bridge him to one RFA year left and then pay him for what he actually is at that point. We would get him longer this way.

This is why it's so important to prolong our draft power for as long as possible. Future ELC on guys like (Roy for Example) are must haves. Tampa had it with Point and Sergachev.

 

[417]

For as much as we like his development, He's not worth $8M today. IMO, 8x $6M would be him getting fleeced.

8x $8M would mean we are reaching to overpay him in the next 2 seasons (after EL), fair AAV for 3 more, and then possibly underpaid in the last 3.

Even if he becomes a 60-80 pts forward next year, does that mean he is worth more than $8M? The only way I see him getting fleeced with this deal is if he turns into a 80-100 pts forward.

If the Habs want to sign him to a contract that's reflective of his worth today and not what they project his worth to be over the next several years.

Then they should negotiate a short-term bridge deal.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He pays his agent to look after his best interest, so that's what he's going to do.

Fleecing him would be 8x $6M. What happens if he turns into a 60-80 pts forward? Is $8M fleecing him then?

This is all about the future predictions. Some are pumping him a bit too much IMO.

If he don't like the Suzuki contract offer. Just let him play out his ELC and see if he can do the same with Dach next year. I rather test him vs spoil him with Suzuki all the time.

If the Habs want to sign him to a contract that's reflective of his worth today and not what they project his worth to be over the next several years.

Then they should negotiate a short-term bridge deal.

OK, put your money where your fingers are. What do you ask for as his agent on a 8 year extension this summer? $9M or $10M AAV?

You're agent resume is just about to start. Go... haha

 

[417]

Fleecing him would be 8x $6M. What happens if he turns into a 60-80 pts forward? Is $8M fleecing him then?

There's no way he would sign a deal for 8 years x 6M anyway, i'm not even sure why anyone is discussing "fleecing" anyone. That should never be the goal of any negotiation.

This is all about the future predictions. Some are pumping him a bit too much IMO.

If he don't like the Suzuki contract offer. Just let him play out his ELC and see if he can do the same with Dach next year. I rather test him vs spoil him with Suzuki all the time.

To me as I always say, it's a lot of worry about nothing...there's a salary range for any type of deal they want to negotiate, whether it's a bridge deal for 2 years or a Jason Robertson type of deal where he signs for 4 years or if they want to negotiate a longer term 8 year deal,

There are pros and cons to every package,

 

[417]

OK, put your money where your fingers are. What do you ask for as his agent on a 8 year extension this summer? $9M or $10M AAV?

You're agent resume is just about to start. Go... haha

Well if I was his agent, I would advise AGAINST signing an 8 year deal unless they're talking about a 9M-10M AAV (which of course, the Habs won't do). I'd be advising him to sign a bridge deal or a deal similar to what Jason Robertson did (4 years).

But to participate in this fun excercise....on an 8 year extension, with the cap projected to be at say 92M by the time this extension kicks in (2025-26 season), i'm asking for the same cap % as Suzuki/Caufield got when they signed their contract extensions, which is 9.4%.

9.4% of 92M = about 8.6M AAV, and that's conservative given the cap is probably going to be around 94-96M by the time Slafkovsky's even reached his prime age (around 23-24)