The Similarity in Performance Between Scrivens, Dubnyk, and Fasth.

[TheNumber4]

Scivens Performance 14-15 (YTD): .888 Sv Percentage
Fasth Performance 14-15 (YTD): .900 Sv Percentage
Dunbnyk Performance 13-14 (YTD): .894 Sv Percentage

Whose fault is it that our Goalies suck? Here are some ideas with arguments for and against listed below. Please read and input what you think the reason is.

1. Goalie Coach - Frederic Chabot
Argument for: Freddy coached all three goalies to that similar performance.
Agument against: Dubnyk has 3 decent years under Chabot in a row before his implosion.

2. Head Coach - Dallas Eakins
Argument for: Coached all three goalies during those performances.
Argument against: The Head Coach doesn't affect goalie performance.

3. The Defence:
Argument for: Edmonton has had really bad defence for all of those performances. Dubnyk improves in Arizona with their better defence.
Arguments against: 3 of 6 Defenceman are upgraded from 13-14 to 14-15.

4. The Goalies Themselves:
Arguments for: Neither Dubnyk, Fasth, or Scrivens are good enough.
Arguments against: Dubnyk has improved since leaving the team and playing for Arizona to a .922 Sv Percentage

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[McDynasty]

I voted Defence is not good, cause it's obvious it's not. Also having such slipshoddy D makes our goalies look bad, so one could easily vote bad goal tending too, just a vicious never ending cycle of suckage on the backend.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

I'd say a combination of Chabot and very poor defense

 

[Slicknitty]

All of the above

 

[Jtown]

until this fan base and media begin to understand that its not only the Defenseman that are suppose to play defense , then proper criticism will never be given.

The oilers have the worst collection of defensive forwards in the game, and compound that with the defensive group and it will be impossible to judge the goalies.

 

[Mcnofool6110]

0.914, 0.916, 0.920

Renney, Renney, Krueger.

0.888, 0.900, 0.894

Eakins, Eakins, Eakins

We had a ****** defence, I'd argue, in every one of those years. Even with Schultz and his supernova start in 2013's abridged season, that defence was worse than the one we have now.

The defence is bad, yes, but its coached abysmally. Where other coaches could cover up their flaws, this one has accentuated it.

 

[JoeCool16]

I think there's so many things at work there, just like there's a lot of reasons why our team is sucking in general.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

I can't say it's not all of the above, but if I were to rank it from most worthy to least:

1. Defense
2. Eakins (the defense is partly a product of him)
3a. Goalies
3b. Chabot

 

[White Water Kayker]

until this fan base and media begin to understand that its not only the Defenseman that are suppose to play defense , then proper criticism will never be given.

The oilers have the worst collection of defensive forwards in the game, and compound that with the defensive group and it will be impossible to judge the goalies.

THIS^^^

The problem is a holistic one, and the goalies, for the most part, are on the receiving end of it. Scrivens was decent in Toronto pushing Riemer, excelled in LA with a real "team" in front of him, and has been poor in Edmonton. No surprise.

I can only imagine these tenders are wondering where the hell to start, much less anticipating some predictable play in front of them. They all looked lost, and it's not entirely, or even mostly, their fault.

 

[Crabapple]

Defense/Eakins
Chabot
Goalies

 

[thadd]

Look at the history of every goalie to play for Edmonton while Chabot was here. All but Dubnyk regressed. Dubby had 3 good years and then he lost it too.

 

[TheGuyInTheChair]

All of the above and more.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

until this fan base and media begin to understand that its not only the Defenseman that are suppose to play defense , then proper criticism will never be given.

The oilers have the worst collection of defensive forwards in the game, and compound that with the defensive group and it will be impossible to judge the goalies.

Yup.

 

[Kepler 186f]

until this fan base and media begin to understand that its not only the Defenseman that are suppose to play defense , then proper criticism will never be given.

The oilers have the worst collection of defensive forwards in the game, and compound that with the defensive group and it will be impossible to judge the goalies.

This is correct. The Oilers team defense is horrific. The amount of top quality scoring chances they give up is comical.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

The system isn't helping either. Didn't we hear about a new system that may cause a few chances against, due to the defense jumping up in the play? I remember a coach talking about this in the off-season.

 

[oilers_guy_eddie]

Bad team defense. It's partly the personnel, and partly the coaching.


The goalies aren't super, but they aren't this bad. And blaming Chabot is just grasping at straws. Anybody who thinks things are going to change now that Chabot is gone is a sucker.

 

[McClelland]

I voted defence! But i think that last seasons rule changes (goalie-pads) http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=680812 had bad impact for some goalies to adjust to the shorter ones, In DD :s case combined with a bad confident from a bad start, and of course not enough help from our Ahl defence.

 

[Soundwave]

0.914, 0.916, 0.920

Renney, Renney, Krueger.

0.888, 0.900, 0.894

Eakins, Eakins, Eakins

We had a ****** defence, I'd argue, in every one of those years. Even with Schultz and his supernova start in 2013's abridged season, that defence was worse than the one we have now.

The defence is bad, yes, but its coached abysmally. Where other coaches could cover up their flaws, this one has accentuated it.

Hard to deny this.

Eakins' system is a joke.