Post-Game Talk: The Sieve We Know

[Tobias Kahun]

I don't know how Stuart can lose sight of the puck from that sequence. The puck was literally in front of him the whole time on the last goal

Look at his head, he literally drops into the butterfly and looks down

 

[Oilslick941611]

I mean sure Knob has a whole lot to blame for going back to nuclear loadup rather than let the big dogs rest after tieing it, and the big dogs have blame also for not getting back, but that goal of a knucklepuck where the blade of the stick wasn't fully on it when it got shot shouldn't be going in. Skinner's inability to track the puck costs this team numerous times over and over again.

It's beyond deflating seeing McDavid go vintage supernova only for Skinner to go vintage sieve to cost this team another loss especially in the post season. Team shouldn't have to always score 4-5+ goals a game to win with Skinner allowing 3+ goals per night.

exactly

my whole point isnt defending Skinner, and im not, im calling out the people who are only blaming Skinner for that goal. That goal happened because of so much more than Skinner losing sight of the puck, It happened because the coach made the wrong call on the lines on the ice and every player, including McDavid making the wrong play at the wrong time. People see red when it comes to skinner and see clearly that 10 other players on the ice contriuted to the goal. The oilers played it wrong from the face off. If they made the right play McDavid is back and Drai isnt huffing O2 trying to chase Danault.

 

[MessierII]

Yes, that would be nice. I'm defending one of the two players who can single-handedly win us a game against people who are blaming him to defend the goalie who helped us lose our game last night.

It’s not about defending this guy or that guy we’re discussing what the team actually needs to do to win.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Bouchard reveresed passed it to a covered Nurse for a controlled own zone turnover. 3 seconds later the puck goes in the net. As it crossed the goaline, Bouchards has a perfect view from behind his own net......on his hands and knees
He makes a perfect breakaway pass to Danault on another goal.
On the GWG, he gets caught on the blueline giving up a 2 on 1, then fails to box anyone out.

All I know is...you're lucky there isn't a hockey aptitude test you have to pass to post here, cuz your hockey knowledge.....D-

2 on 1? Wasn’t a 2 on 1.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Fatty in net would’ve been good during the DPE when you could wear equipment as big as you wanted.

His whole gameplay is to drop into butterfly and hope for the best

 

[ArthurAnyMoreDonuts]

Uh yeah I do. Look what happened when we decided to show up.

Skinner sh** his pants like usual and let in a back breaking goal?

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The problem though, is that McDavid almost won this single-handedly and Skinner let in a bad goal at the worst possible time. Stop me if you've heard that story before...

The team didn’t lose because of that. They lost because they didn’t show up until they were down by four goals. Yes literally speaking that is why they lost, but from the game as a whole they did nothing for far too long. Nobody stepped up, nobody crushed a King or made a big play. The team played like a regular season game.

If the game plan is to let McDavid do everything then the team will get swept.

 

[McAsuno]

And here comes the “you always defend Skinner!” Nonsense
Read my goddamn posts and show me where I said Skinner wasn’t at fault
Just cause I don’t cry about him in every single post doesn’t mean he not to blame

Haha idk what you're supposed to expect as a response when you literally say "we made it to the Final with this tandem in net last playoffs."

Not like McDrai, Bouch, and a historic PK weren't more of a factor. Skinner luckily had Pickard to save his balls in the canucks series, otherwise it would've been a 2nd round exit.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Bouchard was bad, skinner was worse and lost us the game

You really think S.SKinner was worse than Bouchard? I thought Skinner battled and was meh. The team breaking down was the bigger issue. (their goalie also let in 5) Bouchard on the other hand was a pile of trash

Bouchard also has higher expectations than Stu.

 

[McAsuno]

exactly

my whole point isnt defending Skinner, and im not, im calling out the people who are only blaming Skinner for that goal. That goal happened because of so much more than Skinner losing sight of the puck, It happened because the coach made the wrong call on the lines on the ice and every player, including McDavid making the wrong play at the wrong time. People see red when it comes to skinner and see clearly that 10 other players on the ice contriuted to the goal. The oilers played it wrong from the face off. If they made the right play McDavid is back and Drai isnt huffing O2 trying to chase Danault.

I still firmly believe that the knucklepuck is a save from any other average goalie. It's only a goal due to 74. He's a net negative player in net right now on all boards.

 

[MessierThanThou]

2 on 1? Wasn’t a 2 on 1.

LOL. So it took what, less than a minute after he posted that for someone to embarrass him?

Might be time for another identity change, BumblebeeBrain.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Haha idk what you're supposed to expect as a response when you literally say "we made it to the Final with this tandem in net last playoffs."

Not like McDrai, Bouch, and a historic PK weren't more of a factor. Skinner luckily had Pickard to save his balls in the canucks series, otherwise it would've been a 2nd round exit.

My point was “who cares about last year” but you’re Skinner Derangement Syndrome kicked in and completely missed the point

 

[fireantz]

The winning goal! Watch the replay. Do people actually think Skinner can see that puck, knuckle or otherwise. I see nothing but Foegele in his windshield and Bouch playing his bodyguard. Danault shots an off-speed thru the screen from the slot and no forward appears in the picture til after the red light. 100% on Skinner! Wow!
I hope they’ve don’t start Skinner next game. Maybe when they leave Pic on an island for a goal he can walk down the bench suggesting his mates get their head outta their ass!

 

[McAsuno]

My point was “who cares about last year” but you’re Skinner Derangement Syndrome kicked in and completely missed the point

The point? God forbid any fan asking for Stuart Skinner to simply be average enough in net for the Oilers to win games this season, hey? Because surely he's been 9/10 more awful than good.

But but but its more so everybody's else fault this year. Not poor precious Skinner.

 

[MessierThanThou]

The team didn’t lose because of that. They lost because they didn’t show up until they were down by four goals. Yes literally speaking that is why they lost, but from the game as a whole they did nothing for far too long. Nobody stepped up, nobody crushed a King or made a big play. The team played like a regular season game.

If the game plan is to let McDavid do everything then the team will get swept.

Teams aren't going to fire on every cylinder for every period of the game, especially when some of these players are coming back after missing several games and trying to find chemistry. But yes, counting on McDrai to carry this team on their backs is a strategy that has failed us for almost a decade now.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I still firmly believe that the knucklepuck is a save from any other average goalie. It's only a goal due to 74. He's a net negative player in net right now on all boards.

cool, you can believe that, but it doesnt change the fact that the shot could have been completely avoided with the right play being made in the kings zone by Mcdavid.

Point is, the team played like shit last night, deserved to lose and did. If the team starts on time and plays up to their ability they dont lose this game, the whole team gave LA this win. Game 2 should be different.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Teams aren't going to fire on every cylinder for every period of the game, especially when some of these players are coming back after missing several games and trying to find chemistry. But yes, counting on McDrai to carry this team on their backs is a strategy that has failed us for almost a decade now.

You simply cannot take shifts off this time of year. Or in the case of last night, 2/3 of the game. The big boys will devour you whole.

6 shots halfway through the game is unacceptable, period.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Teams aren't going to fire on every cylinder for every period of the game, especially when some of these players are coming back after missing several games and trying to find chemistry. But yes, counting on McDrai to carry this team on their backs is a strategy that has failed us for almost a decade now.

come on man, 6 shots in half the game and 10 going into the 3rd period. Thats not just not firing on all cylinders, thats putrid not deserving of the playoffs play.

 

[Oilslick941611]

You simply cannot take shifts off this time of year.

you can take shifts off this time of the year, you can't 2/3rds of the game off though.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Some game notes. Corey Perry was +4 in this game. Think about that. You couldn't be higher than that. Drai was +3.

A player people keep screaming to give more minutes to, Jeff Skinner, was -2 in the game and was -3 in the first 25mins of the game on around 7mins of action. Kings scored 3EV goals with Skinner on ice in staking out their 4-0 lead. Thats as bad a statline as its possible to have as their other goal was a PP goal.

Of note J Skinner several times in game failed to get puck out of own zone or keep pucks in offensive zone.

Think about J Skinners contribution. One meager assist despite being elevated to McD line for nearly half the game. This is his first playoff game ever and all we see is him losing pucks and being worked off pucks. He ends with a sorry 11mins but along with Arvid and Pods were the worst Oilers forwards on the ice. Not too coincidentally they are the 3 forwards the Oilers obtained in offseason.

 

[McAsuno]

cool, you can believe that, but it doesnt change the fact that the shot could have been completely avoided with the right play being made in the kings zone by Mcdavid.

Point is, the team played like shit last night, deserved to lose and did. If the team starts on time and plays up to their ability they dont lose this game, the whole team gave LA this win. Game 2 should be different.

Nah, they didn't deserve to lose after tieing it despite the refs being shit all game giving the kings a 7-2 penalty diffential including two 5 on 3's. Skinner was the main catalyst for the loss. Can he be better is such a pitiful question since nobody ever knows due to Skinner being the definition of Jekyll and Hyde.

 

[FiveFourteenSixOne]

It's only dangerous if the goalie has no clue where the puck was 99% of the time

and nobody tracks the puck worse than Skinner.


PS: Super pumped to see you turned my Grok AI image into an avatar!!!!!!

 

[MessierThanThou]

come on man, 6 shots in half the game and 10 going into the 3rd period. Thats not just not firing on all cylinders, thats putrid not deserving of the playoffs play.

Again, we (as in McDavid) found a way to invalidate all of that...and then what? The same story we've seen far too many times over the last three playoffs happened...

 

[fireantz]

Again, we (as in McDavid) found a way to invalidate all of that...and then what? The same story we've seen far too many times over the last three playoffs happened...

We lose just like last night