Speculation: The search for a new Head Coach - Rumors and Speculation

[Mr Rogers]

I am an Angel fan. I am not actively rooting for or following the Angels right now because their owner is terrible. But as soon as he sells the team or changes his ways, I'll sign back on. But people definitely do[n't] watch games because of non-players.

Agree to disagree with the overall sentiment. I think you are more in the minority in terms of actually carrying that out.

Also probably doesn’t help the team is bad, the Ducks might be good real soon

 

[FiveTacos]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone processes this differently, but at some point if you aren’t rooting for the team and celebrating their successes you just aren’t a fan anymore.

Well, I guess I'll break the Code of Fandom then. I can live with that. At least more than I can overlook the code that says people are more important than a game.

At the end of the day it’s about the enjoyment you get watching your team do well and seeing the players grow into stars. You don’t watch/not watch games because of the guy behind the bench.

I can't just pretend that stuff didn't happen, that he was fine covering up something that led to more victims.

And there's been three guys in history who have won Cups with different teams, two of whom have been dead for decades. Q ain't likely to join that group. So is this coach worth it?

Not sure I could fully enjoy a win anyway if it meant seeing him raise the Cup.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Well, I guess I'll break the Code of Fandom then. I can live with that. At least more than I can overlook the code that says people are more important than a game.



I can't just pretend that stuff didn't happen, that he was fine covering up something that led to more victims.

And there's been three guys in history who have won Cups with different teams, two of whom have been dead for decades. Q ain't likely to join that group. So is this coach worth it?

Not sure I could fully enjoy a win anyway if it meant seeing him raise the Cup.

I mean totally valid opinion, there’s no right or wrong answer. Just don’t think it’s worth robbing yourself of enjoyment

 

[Hockey Duckie]

As others have previously mentioned, the Samueli's probably have green lighted Q's interview with the org. Seravalli denoting Q is a strong candidate and has ties with Verbeek already puts Q ahead of several potential candidates.

Verbeek fell in love with Cronin before meeting with Carbery and Cronin became head coach. It's possible that Verbeek has already made up his mind, especially if he wants that "old school principles" that he found in Cronin.

 

[gilfaizon]

From a pure hockey standpoint, Quenneville would unquestionably be the best coach the Ducks would have behind the bench in years. He is miles better than Eakins and Cronin even without coaching for the last 4 years.

All that being said, he's 66 years old, and he hasn't coached in 4 years. On top of that, he brings a lot of and questuons to a team that doesn't need it. And all of that is under the cloud of what he did, and the lack of amends that have been taken. This is such a high risk move, and it just seems unnecessary. It's the type of decision GMs get fired over. It's a reputation making mistake, and there are so many solid options out there. I hope this is incorrect because the odds where all of this ends well with Quenneville seems very low.

I can promise you we will hire a better coach than both Cronin or Eakins. There is no need for it to be Quenneville.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

This organization is so tight lipped.. I have suspicions that someone I’ve never heard of would have news that the job has been offered. Seravelli for all his flaws I think is much more connected and says it’s not close. Friedman hasn’t said a word.

While this organization is certainly more tight lipped than a lot of other ones I don’t think they have really earned that label currently. They’re easily a lot looser than they were under Murray and even for this specific comp the last time they were looking for a coach it got out who they liked well before they made it official.

They’re also not the only party involved. The hockey world is a small one and Q is a big name for multiple reasons. If they were in hot pursuit there’s next to no way that one’s staying quiet.

 

[HanSolo]

I mean totally valid opinion, there’s no right or wrong answer. Just don’t think it’s worth robbing yourself of enjoyment

I can't enjoy this team if that man is behind the bench. He can get a job where ever the f*** else he wants, he can exist in our society and not be a pariah, if he atoned. I am fine with that. But it doesn't erase what he did. Every system every strategy that we can identify comes from the man and is a reminder of the action that led to a cover up of the most reprehensible crime (that we know of) that has happened within this league and a reminder of the inaction on wrongdoing he knew about and did nothing to stop to prevent further harm and all of it because he didn't want distractions during a cup run. He put a game over the health and safety of f***ing teenagers.

I wasn't being dramatic when I said I'd rather see the Sharks win the Bedard and Celebrini lotteries than the Blackhawks. This is the worst shit an NHL team has ever done (again, that we know of) and Quenneville was right at the heart of it. I don't care that he learned his lesson and if it will or won't happen again. I have to remember the ugliest thing in NHL history every time I hear his f***ing name, or see his mustachioed f***ing face. Every win is a Joel Quenneville win. Every goal is a Joel Quenneville goal.

I'm sorry but with everything that's come out the past decade indicating a vile toxic culture in this sport with sexual assault of others and each other (junior hockey sexual hazing as an example) this hiring makes OUR TEAM the poster example of how temporary the consequences can be. You won't change the culture unless the wider sport adopts strict no tolerance. That means losing the privilege to coach or play this sport at a professional level. I don't care if he's a success here. Everything that comes of it, at least for me, will be tainted. And I'm not going to engage with it. I've been a fan since the late 90s and I've never contemplated turning my back on my passion and love for this team. If Quenneville is hired, that will do it. At least until he and Verbeek are gone.

I'd rather hire Carlyle again. Or keep Cronin. I'm completely serious. Quenneville is the only name worse than Cronin for this job.

 

[Son of Gib]

I napped this morning and had a dream that we hired Carle, but he showed up in a Blackhawks jersey. Did I manifest this?

 

[Guilty Bystander]

May I suggest that those of us who object to the possibility of Quenneville being hired do all we can to make sure the team knows our thoughts? Contact your ticket reps, Contact Stephens and Lee and every other hockey writer you can think of. Tweet at Alexis Downie and any other Ducks employee who's on Twitter. Hell, call the team store. Call Broadcom.

Don't allow them to be under the misconception that we don't care. Make your voices heard.

 

[Big Fat Rebound]

I napped this morning and had a dream that we hired Carle, but he showed up in a Blackhawks jersey. Did I manifest this?

Well technically not this part, because Friedman has already reported that Carle is out of the running for the Blackhawks job

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Am I the only one excited here?

Proven winner, and his teams play at a super competitive level

 

[Rooch]

I can't enjoy this team if that man is behind the bench.

Seconded. Beyond the fact that he has stained the game with his behavior, it would be an utter PR nightmare to have to justify that, yeah, he did some really ugly s**t that hurt kids, but he has "championship pedigree." This org doesn't need that noise or that bad juju. Can you imagine what a circus that introductory press conference would be if Q was the guy?

Don't do it, Pat.

 

[ADHB]

Without even getting into his past why they should or shouldn’t hire Q, I’m genuinely curious what the actual players or potential free agents would think about it. There’s a non zero chance some of the guys on the roster and around the league would refuse to play for him. That alone should be a non starter.

 

[HanSolo]

Am I the only one excited here?

Proven winner, and his teams play at a super competitive level

You just might be.

He's good when he has a competitive roster. His second to last season with Chicago the Blackhawks had a losing record. He made it 15 games in 18-19 with an 0.500 record. The cups he won were when the Hawks had incredibly stacked teams. That fizzled out eventually. We're a far cry from stacked.

That's all before you get into all those meaningless moral and PR considerations.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Without even getting into his past why they should or shouldn’t hire Q, I’m genuinely curious what the actual players or potential free agents would think about it. There’s a non zero chance some of the guys on the roster and around the league would refuse to play for him. That alone should be a non starter.

You’re likely right that there’s technically a non-zero chance people would refuse to play for him but it’s significantly more likely his hire would attract players’ interest and not dissuade it. When it comes to the roster itself two of the most influential voices in the locker room have played for him so the team likely knows that element already. When it comes to new additions it’s more of an unknown but I’d be very surprised if it was an issue.

 

[Tecumseh]

Am I the only one excited here?

Proven winner, and his teams play at a super competitive level

Yes.

Pretty much, I want the pedigree of a Quenneville in a head coach but not the complete moral depravity that he possesses

 

[FiveTacos]

Am I the only one excited here?

Proven winner, and his teams play at a super competitive level

Proven winner means almost nothing, when you realize that hardly any coaches who have won Cups managed to do it with another team. The odds of Q being the 4th are miniscule.

And lots more coaches can get their teams to play competitive hockey. So I don't find that compelling either.

The biggest issue with thinking that way, of course, is that it's that exact attitude that turned that situation into a scandal in the first place ... The idea that on ice results means you should turn a blind eye to everything else.

 

[ohcomeonref]

This is certainly interesting reading.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Proven winner means almost nothing, when you realize that hardly any coaches who have won Cups managed to do it with another team. The odds of Q being the 4th are miniscule.

And lots more coaches can get their teams to play competitive hockey. So I don't find that compelling either.

The biggest issue with thinking that way, of course, is that it's that exact attitude that turned that situation into a scandal in the first place ... The idea that on ice results means you should turn a blind eye to everything else.

Sadly, this isn't a "hockey" issue to be fixed, but a "world" issue. The pursuit of winning and profits at all costs is a toxic and necrotic trait that the modern world has in spades.

Edit: I also maintain that there's info we aren't privy to that is important to the decision-makers in the front office for the Ducks. I also think that Q's daughters remarks are getting a bit lost here.

Edit 2: I really hope we just sign Carle then we don't need to worry about any of this.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

We are going to to start trading for sex offenders and other misfits…. Maybe sign Formenton, Voinov, and trade for Mailloux

Wasn’t the rumor that Montreal was offering a first and Verbeek asking for a Mailloux for Zegras swap?

This is SUPER interesting

 

[Arthuros]

I'd have to take a break from watching the Ducks for a long while if Q gets hired. I haven't changed my mind from two years ago and I'd prefer he take his little redemption spiel somewhere else far away.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Q is the best and proven option. Dude knows how to win and bring the best out of this players. The baggage will what it is. If he gets the job and ducks make the playoffs next year. Peoples tones might change. Still the baggage will always be there. Principles matter

 

[FiveTacos]

Q is the best and proven option. Dude knows how to win and bring the best out of this players. The baggage will what it is. If he gets the job and ducks make the playoffs next year. Peoples tones might change. Still the baggage will always be there. Principles matter

If he's the coach, I'm out on the Ducks. I'll find another team in the west to follow, or just focus on my east team.

And frankly, if he's hired, I won't be back even after he's gone, because it means the owners approved it too.

I didn't become a Ducks fan in 93 for any reason other than choice. So I can also choose to withdraw that support.

 

[Unholy]

Hopefully the interview process is just due diligence and seeing where is at with everything. And since this is the first news to drop of any interviewing, it’s out of the way and the focus can be on more considerable options

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Is Mike Danton a UFA? Good net front presence.