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God I can’t believe Chicago’s GM passed on Carle. What a loser, he was interested in interviewing him and didn’t hire him. What a loser.
If they hire Q that is going to be so hard.

Everyone deserves a chance to make amends, and the truth is we have no idea what he has done since being banned from hockey. BUT, it would take a lot of convincing for me to not feel dirty about it.

The thing we can assume is that if he is hired it was a decision okayed at the very top, and you know they will want to avoid the PR nightmare. So there has to be some good reason why it is okay.

The truth is Q is probably perfect for this team if not for the whole "I ignored rape in my locker room because it was playoff time" thing.
Woof this is tough for me to type…. But in his defense.

Male on male sexual assault isn’t really on many people’s radar. He’s also focusing on said playoff push, I don’t think it’s the head coaches job to decide how to handle it, I’d argue more blame falls on the GM. Also this was before the metoo movement and such and we had everyone in Hollywood knowing Harvey Weinstein was raping women, and then progressing their career, or actively harming their career if they didn’t f*** him. Do we not watch movies anymore ?

In the same vein, we all know people and still are friends or love our parents who have cheated on their partners. I think cheating on someone is millions of times worse than not reporting a male on male sexual assault to HR or anyone as a head coach of a hockey team. Also f*** the entire blackhawks org for this.

Is he a piece of shit human, yes. Did Anthony Keidis (spelling) f*** 15 year olds and also a piece of shit human…. Also yes. Do I love under the bridge …. Also yes.

Our ability to compartmentalize what we allow in our lives (and we allow a lot) is a coping mechanism. Is f***ing underage women / cheating / stealing / lying / murder (ray lewis) …. Worse / same / less worse than focusing on your job and not caring about sexual assault ? I don’t know, people suck and we all die. Some of us deserve slow agonizing deaths, and die in our sleep. Some of us deserve to die in our sleep, and a steel beam flies off a truck bed and impales our wife in the passenger seat next to us as we watching her scared shitless gasp her last breath.

Life is a meaningless, we are insignificant and self awareness is a curse upon mankind.
 
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He’s also 66 years old, so this team better now be in cup contention starting in 2026-2027 at latest with a move like this.

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One thing I wonder is that if senior executives higher up than Q were covering things up too, is it the toxic environment that prompted the coach (lower on the totem pole) to conform to that environment?

If Q was the only one at fault, there should be a zero tolerance for him returning. But from what I’ve read, that’s not the case?
 
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This.

I think if you’re viewing him as irredeemable then you should check yourself.

I’m not saying he has redeemed himself, but it is possible. For a privilege like coaching in the NHL, that bar better be set very high.
I don't think he's irredeemable, but the level of transparency that would be needed for it not to feel gross is a level I do not expect out of the NHL (especially not the team that just fired a coach for "we are going to keep those conversations private" reasons).

Also, on a practical level: Verbeek has to nail this hire. Is this the right situation for Q to get his shot at redemption, even if he's earned it through whatever he's been doing in the meantime? The Ducks can't afford for this to go badly, bringing in a guy who's starting out with controversy and a probable trust deficit to a such a young team would be a choice.

If there has indeed been an offer that also seems remarkably fast.
 
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Wow not sure how I feel about this. From a purely hockey perspective, it’s a great move. Q gets pretty much the max potential out of offensive guys
 
I'm all for second chances, redemption, whatever, from a human perspective. He can do all that without getting a shot at an NHL job, though. Sometimes, doing bad things should close doors! Those are called consequences.
 
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The good news for Ducks fans if Quinville gets hired is that it has to mean that ownership is very serious about winning immediately.

I don’t like what he did, but I do think we need to allow for people who make mistakes to improve themselves, and be better in the future. Whether that includes getting to coach in the NHL again is up for debate. Having gone through all of this he may be better equipped than most to make healthy decisions this time around. Of course he could also still be the same dude and have learned nothing other than how to do the dance needed to get back in the game.
 
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This article has a lot of information if anyone needs to catch up, like I did.
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If this does happen, I can’t wait to see how the always-well-spoken Verbeek answers the inevitable difficult questions.

Yeah really, it might be the first time I watch a full media availability in years. Verbeek is edgy as hell and a poor communicator to begin with, you might see a human literally self-combust in the intro presser
 
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I am also about forgiveness and grace. I think it's a vital part of living in a community. And it's extremely difficult to rank which "sins" deserve banishment, versus which deserve second chances.

But, leaving aside the religious aspect, it matters what a second chance looks like on an individual basis. For a 30-ish year-old guy who gets out of jail for beating his wife - should that guy never be able to get a job the rest of his life? It's probably what he deserves from a certain point of view, but keeping him from gainful employment is not good for him, and probably not good for whatever sense of powerlessness or rage led to his crime in the first place. Recidivism seems fairly high in that scenario. There should be a path back, even if that path is limited and difficult. I understand in my limited capacity how difficult that must be for a victim, but it doesn't seem right to exile this hypothetical person from functioning society.

A guy like Quenneville, unless he pissed away his money, almost certainly doesn't need to work a day again in his life to survive (or to pass on generational wealth to his family). It sounds like he wasn't the main decision-maker in this issue, but he certainly ignored or brushed aside life-changing information that was given to him. He could have made a difference and didn't because it was easier to let it go. That's a guy who, in my opinion, doesn't deserve to get another shot at coaching in the highest league in the world. He abdicated his responsibility as a man with young men in his charge. If he's really regretful, he can ask for forgiveness from the people he should have protected and either move on or spend his retirement advocating for awareness of sexual abuse and change in the power structures of sports.

I don't want the Ducks to hire him. If they do, the communication is going to need to be extensive, thorough, and properly delivered. I honestly don't know what my reaction to that will be. I don't think I'm at a place where hiring Quenneville would destroy my fandom no matter what. But I do think the messaging will play a big part in how I feel.
 
God I can’t believe Chicago’s GM passed on Carle. What a loser, he was interested in interviewing him and didn’t hire him. What a loser.

Woof this is tough for me to type…. But in his defense.

Male on male sexual assault isn’t really on many people’s radar. He’s also focusing on said playoff push, I don’t think it’s the head coaches job to decide how to handle it, I’d argue more blame falls on the GM. Also this was before the metoo movement and such and we had everyone in Hollywood knowing Harvey Weinstein was raping women, and then progressing their career, or actively harming their career if they didn’t f*** him. Do we not watch movies anymore ?

In the same vein, we all know people and still are friends or love our parents who have cheated on their partners. I think cheating on someone is millions of times worse than not reporting a male on male sexual assault to HR or anyone as a head coach of a hockey team. Also f*** the entire blackhawks org for this.

Is he a piece of shit human, yes. Did Anthony Keidis (spelling) f*** 15 year olds and also a piece of shit human…. Also yes. Do I love under the bridge …. Also yes.

Our ability to compartmentalize what we allow in our lives (and we allow a lot) is a coping mechanism. Is f***ing underage women / cheating / stealing / lying / murder (ray lewis) …. Worse / same / less worse than focusing on your job and not caring about sexual assault ? I don’t know, people suck and we all die. Some of us deserve slow agonizing deaths, and die in our sleep. Some of us deserve to die in our sleep, and a steel beam flies off a truck bed and impales our wife in the passenger seat next to us as we watching her scared shitless gasp her last breath.

Life is a meaningless, we are insignificant and self awareness is a curse upon mankind.

Yikes, you still have time to delete this.
 

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