Speculation: The search for a new Head Coach - Rumors and Speculation

[Hockey Duckie]

That doesn't mean anything. Correlation doesnt equal causation. You are talking weeks difference between Cronin being hired and Carbery going to WSH, so same hiring cycle.

The first part about leaving WSH system, going to TOR and interviewing in 2022... easily explainable. If he knew he wanted to be a NHL HC, he was likely told he needed experience and TOR had an opportunity for him. Many coaches interview with teams before they are actually ready to be a HC to get in reps. Its talked about frequently. So he left the Caps org to go get the experience he would need. Also, 2 years prior to his hiring it could have looked like it was going to be a while before WSH was going to be in need of a new HC.

And this is just like trades and FA when everyone gets all upset that their team doesnt land a guy and everyone wants to claim their GM sucks and he didnt actually try or that he passed on a guy for someone else. There has to be mutual interest and there are other suitors who will also be pursuing the candidate/player.

You have dates that paint a picture, you dont have the evidence that proves a theory, let alone disproves the notion that it was widely known/theorized that Cadbury was going to end up in WSH. Beeker could have interviewed Cadbury who in turn told him that he preferred to goto WSH where he knew the org and had familiarity with the players and personnel, in which case Beeker likely just cut him loose.

Maybe his missed out on Cadbury. Maybe he actually had an opportunity to hire the guy and passed. Or maybe Cadbury was just taking interviews so it didnt seem like he was just putting all his eggs in the WSH basket. The only coaches I think you can say Beeker definitely chose Cronin over, are the ones that werent hired by any team. Unless of course, you have more evidence of said claim.

Conversely, you nor anyone else has concrete proof that Carbery was set to go to Washington all along. You have conjectures like mine, yours is based on history. But what I do have is the timeline and opportunity. Cronin interviewed a week before Carbery and a two-hour call with Cronin turned into a five-hour call. Verbeek liked the "old-school principles and new-school methods of teaching". I have said all along that Cronin is Verbeek's avatar on the bench.

Carbery "was just taking [HC] interviews" as a ploy to manipulate ? Using that premise, Carbery interviewing for the Sharks HC job in 2022 "was just taking HC interviews" as a long game for the Capitals to fire their current HC so that in 2023 there was an available option for Carbery. And that doing the Ducks interview "was just taking HC interviews" because Carbery knew all along the Capitals was his final destination. Seems like a facetious take.

There are only 32 HC positions in the NHL. Why would any HC interview be devalued as "was just taking HC interviews" as opposed to being a coveted opportunity?

 

[Gliff]

Cooper is widely viewed as the best coach in the league, and has won 2 cups withe this core.

He isn't going anywhere, and if he was available every single team looking for a coach would be looking to make him the highest paid coach in NHL history.

 

[70sSanO]

Cooper is widely viewed as the best coach in the league, and has won 2 cups withe this core.

He isn't going anywhere, and if he was available every single team looking for a coach would be looking to make him the highest paid coach in NHL history.

And some teams not actively looking might fire and hire Cooper. It would truly be a massive contract.

John

 

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NHL head coach hiring tiers: Who will get a new job this summer?

Here's a look at 67 options, inside and outside the NHL, from new stars to veterans to outside-the-box choices.

www.espn.com

Some ducks notes in here.

 

[Gliff]

NHL head coach hiring tiers: Who will get a new job this summer?

Here's a look at 67 options, inside and outside the NHL, from new stars to veterans to outside-the-box choices.

www.espn.com

Some ducks notes in here.

Can you share the Ducks part?

 

[Static]

Can you share the Ducks part?

If nobody does before I'm home I will a bit later.

 

[Hey234]

Can you share the Ducks part?

Essentially, they said Carle could be interested in the Ducks because they have a good setup. Nothing really linking to the Ducks, but the overview of the various coaches was good in how they tiered it.

Edit:

Carle has indicated, according to one source, that he's not looking to take over a team that's in the declining stages of a rebuild. The Blackhawks played better than expected in the last 15 games of the season. The Ducks were flirting with a wild-card berth and had a 21-point improvement year over year. Is that enough in either case?

Anaheim has a deeper collection of talent on the NHL roster than Chicago at the moment. The Ducks have strong ownership and upper management, boast great facilities and would be much less of a pressure cooker than Chicago. Don't count them out for Carle

 

[70sSanO]

The one thing I don’t know about the early Jon Cooper years at Tampa was if Yzerman or Verbeek micro managed him.

If they left him alone to coach, then there is hope that Verberk has the ability to do the same with the next coach.

John

 

[JAHV]

The one thing I don’t know about the early Jon Cooper years at Tampa was if Yzerman or Verbeek micro managed him.

If they left him alone to coach, then there is hope that Verberk has the ability to do the same with the next coach.

John

If Verbeek and/or Yzerman micro managed Cooper in his early years, I hope they do it again because it sure as hell worked. They not only immediately went to the playoffs (and soon to a Cup final), but Cooper turned into a Hall of Fame coach. So whatever they did with Cooper, by all means, I hope Verbeek takes that same approach with the new coach.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Essentially, they said Carle could be interested in the Ducks because they have a good setup. Nothing really linking to the Ducks, but the overview of the various coaches was good in how they tiered it.

Edit:

I don't see why Carle at least wouldn't consider us:

You have a 'quiet' franchise lead with Carlsson, Zegras, Cutter and co. The 20+ improvement despite Cronin has made some people realize we are on the up and coming.

Chicago with Bedard doesn't seem like it's improving anytime soon. If they can hit on their draft capital this past year, this upcoming year, and the following year, they will be a force to watch out for.

 

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

I don't see why Carle at least wouldn't consider us:

You have a 'quiet' franchise lead with Carlsson, Zegras, Cutter and co. The 20+ improvement despite Cronin has made some people realize we are on the up and coming.

Chicago with Bedard doesn't seem like it's improving anytime soon. If they can hit on their draft capital this past year, this upcoming year, and the following year, they will be a force to watch out for.

Carle would be an interesting choice, I think he’s a fantastic coach. And should really do well with a younger roster.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Not sure if this is opinion or if he is hearing things

Ducks would be good fit as they are looking for a coach to get them from point A (Rebuild) to point B (Playoffs)

At his age though not sure how long he can viably be an NHL HC if hired

Have you heard anything about Q tied to Ducks since firing Cronin?

 

[Goose of Reason]

Absolutely zero interest in Quenneville. Guy shouldn't be back in the league.

 

[All Mighty]

 

[Boo Boo]

Would be absurd wasting two years trying to get accountability out of the team only to turn around and pick up Quenneville who goes willfully ignorant the moment he has to show actual leadership off the ice

 

[Static]

Carle to Chicago never made much sense considering his comments on the NHL and their status as the dumpster of the league.

 

[NWWisconsinDuck]

From a purely hockey perspective - Quenneville is probably as good of a hire as you can have.

But I’m a hard no because of how bad the taste will be in my mouth if we’re the team that gives him a chance.

Hoping that Carle withdrew his name from Chicago because it’s us

 

[Terry Yake]

yeah, safe to say i wouldn't be following this team anymore if they hired Q

 

[Firequacker]

yeah, safe to say i wouldn't be following this team anymore if they hired Q

I would at least be taking a break until he and Verbeek are both gone.

I don't see how you could implicitly fire Cronin for poor treatment/lack of respect towards his players (obligatory 'if one believes the insider vagueposting' here) then even entertain Q.

 

[Hey234]

I have always believed that people deserve an opportunity to make amends. That being said, it does not change the reality which is inexcusable and should restrict this type of opportunity. Quenneville should not be allowed to coach in the NHL again, and it would be shameful for the organization if they thought hiring him was appropriate.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Chicago is lot like the Atlanta Thrashers in some ways rn. Stars and scrubs. except it’s not obvious if their stars will be superstars

 

[Mr Rogers]

From a purely hockey perspective - Quenneville is probably as good of a hire as you can have.

But I’m a hard no because of how bad the taste will be in my mouth if we’re the team that gives him a chance.

Hoping that Carle withdrew his name from Chicago because it’s us

I agree with you. I’ve thought a coach with a different last name but who’s essentially a clone of him would be perfect.

As for my fandom if we hired him, there would be zero change - I’d still 100% be a Ducks fan and would try to watch every bit as much as I ever have, even if he’s not my preference.

 

[FiveTacos]

I'd be less upset if we hired this Q to be coach:

 

[JAHV]

No to Quenneville. I don't think he should get a job in the NHL again. I certainly don't want it to be with the Ducks.

 

[Firequacker]

I'd be less upset if we hired this Q to be coach:

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"Coach, why isn't your team scoring?"
"I don't know! I keep telling them, if your shot is about to miss, just change the gravitational constant of the universe..."

(On second thought this isn't even a joke, Cronin did say they needed a witch doctor to make them shoot more, it's not that far off)