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Who Will Be The Next Sabres GM ?

  • Adams cont...

    Votes: 30 52.6%

  • Jason Karmanos

    Votes: 11 19.3%

  • Jarmo Kekäläinen

    Votes: 9 15.8%

  • Other (Vote and Put in Post)

    Votes: 7 12.3%
  • Total voters
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I really don’t know what’s so hard for people to figure out about Pegula’s involvement. How can he be both absent and in on every decision? It isn’t a riddle. It’s all perfectly obvious when you realize every decision is “no”. He’s in on it. Every time. And it’s resulted in the abandonment of a franchise.

Can we have more scouts? No
Can we fill out the front office? No
Can we retain money on this trade? No
Can we replace assistant coaches under contract? No
Can we spend to the cap in a year we said was playoffs or bust? No

Whether Adams asks for any of this is a different question. Because his sole purpose in being out in place was to be the Pegula in the room at all times who says no.
 
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Ace said:
I really don’t know what’s so hard for people to figure out about Pegula’s involvement. How can he be both absent and in on every decision? It isn’t a riddle. It’s all perfectly obvious when you realize every decision is “no”. He’s in on it. Every time. And it’s resulted in the abandonment of a franchise.

Can we have more scouts? No
Can we fill out the front office? No
Can we retain money on this trade? No
Can we replace assistant coaches under contract? No
Can we spend to the cap in a year we said was playoffs or bust? No

Whether Adams asks for any of this is a different question. Because his sole purpose in being out in place was to be the Pegula in the room at all times who says no.
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He did say yes to the Skinner buyout…but then said no to using the cap space it freed up.
 
May Day 10 said:
It is sad. started watching in 1985 and rarely missed a game from about 1987-2013. At college parties with girls everywhere I would be sequestered in a room watching a Buffalo/Montreal game. Probably known by some acquaintances as "that Sabres guy" (*not that Im claiming to be the biggest fan, just showing this team meant a lot to me and was proudly intertwined with my personal identity). During the Housley years, they lost me a bit by holding onto him so long and I learned how to fill in those 9-12 hours/week with other stuff. Now, a season can go by and I only watch a few games. Even with season tickets this season, I attended 3 games. The previous season was maybe 4 or 5. It all blends together.

I'm just sick of this owner's selfishness and taking the fans for granted. He must think we are all stupid, at least that is how I feel.

It is just not worth any money any more, not worth any time investment. I am at the point where it is not even worth discussing in a forum. There is nothing of note to talk about. They are even deliberately going back to the black uniforms which I hate(d).

I really miss having an NHL team.
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absolutely in solidarity with you here and I had a 10 years headstart on you. It's f***ing sad, man. I just can't do it at all anymore.

ooo I can't wait 'til we draft ~6th overall with yet another 18year old we're supposed to be excited to see and they'll probably force him in the lineup day 1 with the bullshit mantra of "look the Canadiens had a terrifically young team and made it so why can't we" and watch him be overmatched while the lackey local hockey press eats all the shit up for dinner and dessert. As usual.

I like your deadline idea; I'm not sure I have one but sure as shit am not following/watching/caring if these pompous and *not intelligent* people are still running the show come late summer.
 
pham had some speculation this morning that they may be waiting on hires first (coaching) and if Adams was getting fired they would of announced it by now.

In that same regard if Karmanos is being moved up to GM perhaps they do not want to distract from Rochester's playoff run right now.
 
Doug Prishpreed said:
He did say yes to the Skinner buyout…but then said no to using the cap space it freed up.
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The buyout saves him actual cash…and artificially inflates what he’s “spending” on the cap for years. It was a win win when you’re a loser.
 
Jacob582 said:
I think Pegula will move Adams over to the business side of things. Keep him away from the hockey department.
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This may be what we're told at some point. But it's really hard to fire somebody, keep them in the building, and not be involved in their prior business unit.

It takes really strong leadership and a really special individual to suck it up and go on quietly. Neither of those describe Adams or Pegula.

As much as Terry might want to, keeping Adams in the building would be a tremendous failure. And there is no way, no how, that Pegula doesn't listen to his opinion on hockey matters
 
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Terry is delusioned that he has a gift for reading people because he has money. The opposite has been true judging by all the drama.

He has himself insulated by up-jumped people like forton, adams, crowe, jakubowski, etc who tell him how things are fine and going according to plan. While Terry sits in the bubble bath playing with the Sabres like he is Francis buxton
 
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Jim Bob said:
The #1 job for a POHO of the Buffalo Sabres will be to make Terry "feel heard." That is not something that I could imagine Lou doing.

That is one reason why the idea of Kevyn Adams to the POHO role could make sense. I think he could be a solid buffer that allows the GM to focus on building the roster and then KA is the person that makes Terry "feel heard."

I would be shocked if it happened, but Jarmo as GM and Kevyn as the "Terry whisperer" POHO wouldn't be the worst FO "shakeup" that gets an outside voice and an experienced GM in here.
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This is Terry's number one goal. Feel involved. McBeane run a master class in it.

With the Sabres you into the next problem. That both Adams and Pegula have the same vision for the hockey team and it is a bad one.

You can't have the POHO have a terrible vision for the hockey club.
 
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Ace said:
The buyout saves him actual cash…and artificially inflates what he’s “spending” on the cap for years. It was a win win when you’re a loser.
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The buyout didn’t save him cash. It could’ve lost him cash, and would’ve lost him cash on any other team, as you well know.

The fact that he didn’t use the cap space is what saved him cash.
 
May Day 10 said:
This is what is so depressing. They have a whack pack of people running the show with an unqualified GM. The results have shown failure. Why not continue?

Crowe and Nightingale are the biggest head scratchers. Like almost everyone in the organization, these guys would not sniff lateral employment elsewhere if they were let go tomorrow. Yet, these guys are on track for further influence and promotion. These guys will likely be Jakubowski's successor for GM, around the time where whatever mid-level USDP coach is in Rochester to take over as head coach.

Its as if the Sabres' entire plan and everything they do is in order to never have to hire someone from outside the organization again at any upper or mid-level position. If they were the class of the league and they were developing talent on the executive side, that is one thing. All this is doing is creating a never-ending cycle of failure.

Nightingale coaches 2 Junior Sabres teams as well, because sure. I bet he has all the time in the world? Maybe he has to ensure his kids get to play? The Junior Sabres, at many age groups seem to have been wrecked by nepotism and politics in the same timeline as the Sabres.
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I agree with your overall point, but do want to give a little more credit to Jeremiah Crowe.
Crowe is a local kid who I believe bounced around the country playing juniors for a bit then settled in at Clarkson. I think he was a road scout for a long time as well.

He probably shouldn't be head of pro scouting. But he's got a the resume of a real life hockey guy just maybe in a role too big for him at the moment.
 
McKee in the mix for Flyers HC job.

Would love to give McKee an assistant job if he doesn’t get it and make him the real successor to Lindy instead of Elvis Hair McBadPowerPlay. If we find he does well.

He’s a legit rising name in the coaching world.
 
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