The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Jacob582]

Adams is probably done. I would love for him to get a legit top 6 forward, but with the Zucker signing and McLeod trade, it seems unlikely. But the main thing is he got a 3C. I think that was the biggest hole in the lineup and it was important to fill it.

I would also be more confident in our defense if we could get a player like Pesce or Roy to UFA, but apparently they are happy with this defense, I hope it works out.

Krebs, if he wants to make the roster, he will have to earn it.

Color me surprised that Adams made a trade at this time because last year not many trades happened after free agency.

But I am more optimistic now that he is STILL working on another trade because:
- Necas and Ehlers haven't been dealt yet and it seems like their teams want to move them.
- Mcleod trade makes Krebs expendable (Philly was rumorrd to be interested in him, as an example).

My guess would be a Taylor Hall like signing, 1 year for big money. Not a 3 year deal or something like that.

No way will Pegula let him do a Taylor Hall-like signing! Unless you think Zucker is a Taylor Hall-like signing.

 

[Fjordy]

Color me surprised that Adams made a trade at this time because last year not many trades happened after free agency.

But I am more optimistic now that he is STILL working on another trade because:
- Necas and Ehlers haven't been dealt yet and it seems like their teams want to move them.
- Mcleod trade makes Krebs expendable (Philly was rumorrd to be interested in him, as an example).

It would be nice if Adams could get Ehlers or Necas, more speed and proven players for the top 6.

 

[elchud]

Color me surprised that Adams made a trade at this time because last year not many trades happened after free agency.

But I am more optimistic now that he is STILL working on another trade because:
- Necas and Ehlers haven't been dealt yet and it seems like their teams want to move them.
- Mcleod trade makes Krebs expendable (Philly was rumorrd to be interested in him, as an example).


No way will Pegula let him do a Taylor Hall-like signing! Unless you think Zucker is a Taylor Hall-like signing.

I think Zucker was a smaller version of a possible 1 year 7 million dollar type offer to Stamkos.

Krebs for Noah Cates, with a draft pick somewhere to even it out, is intriguing.

 

[Fjordy]

Krebs for Noah Cates, with a draft pick somewhere to even it out, is intriguing.

It could also be Farabee.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I don't think it's crazy to think that they're hoping/expecting Benson to be their top-six forward "acquisition". Zucker is a placeholder in the event that doesn't happen immediately.

Yeah, I think it’s tbd at camp which of those guys starts with Cozens or McLeod. Depends on the degree to which Benson shows up looking poised to be a bigger offensive contributor this season.

 

[elchud]

It could also be Farabee.

I am terrified of the acquisition cost that Adams would pay for Farabee lol

 

[Fjordy]

I am terrified of the acquisition cost that Adams would pay for Farabee lol

One deal might not be like another, especially if Briere is rumored to like Krebs.

 

[Team Cozens]

It could also be Farabee.

Is Farabee a fast skater? Honestly don't know....

Krebs and Rosen or (2nd) for Farabee?

 

[Fjordy]

Is Farabee a fast skater? Honestly don't know....

Krebs and Rosen or (2nd) for Farabee?

I don't really know if it's fast or not.

From CapFriendly:

2-way forward who provides secondary offense
Has the skill set to play anywhere in the top 9 forward group
Primary ice comes at ES and PP. Averages around 15:00 TOI.
Good skater. Pushes up ice with pace.
Responsible. Reliable detail off the puck. Recognizes what's required in all three zones.
Understated vision. Sees the ice. Makes plays.
Doesn't do a ton of heavy lifting along the wall in the offensive zone
Willing to block shots in the defensive zone.

 

[truthbluth]

Yeah so, this roster is still pretty bad. But I don't dislke the moves.

 

[TehDoak]

Ok Kids, since you'll hate the names associated with my proposal, let me use pictures:

From our roster:

For

It's a veteran forward, 27 years old, trading position for position.

Both players need a contract next year.

 

[Fjordy]

Ok Kids, since you'll hate the names associated with my proposal, let me use pictures:

From our roster:

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For

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It's a veteran forward, 27 years old, trading position for position.

Both players need a contract next year.

I didn't quite understand who you were talking about and what you meant?

 

[TehDoak]

I didn't quite understand who you were talking about and what you meant?

The top chart is a player from our roster

The bottom chart is a player from another roster.

Trading them for each other (us probably adding, to be honest)

But if I put the names associated, most posters would hate it, especially since we'd have to give the bottom player a large extension.

 

[joshjull]

I’m not sure they’re counting on him to be the 3C. I’m not sure where they expect him to be.


Adams was all over the place after he was asked if Krebs would be the 3C. Paraphrasing his comments….

“Krebs still a young player. He showed signs late last year of starting to understand the defensive part of the game. He is a very very competitive kid. He’s getting better in different areas. He has great vision, he has great offensive skill, we know that and now he’s still going to find his way. I think there is a chance for his upside to be a player who plays further up the lineup. Whether thats as a center, which we believe he is, or maybe eventually could he slide to the wing? Yeah, we’re open to that. But what I really like is that we have a group of players that Lindy and the staff can decide how to put the lines together.

Thats a lot or worlds to not actually say one way or another if he’ll be the 3C.

I guess Adams was hinting that he didn’t trust Krebs as the 3C with these comments. Or more likely this thinking came from Ruff.

 

[Aladyyn]

Ok Kids, since you'll hate the names associated with my proposal, let me use pictures:

From our roster:

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For

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It's a veteran forward, 27 years old, trading position for position.

Both players need a contract next year.

Using this chart for a player who played nowhere near even half of the season is vile work

 

[Fjordy]

The top chart is a player from our roster

The bottom chart is a player from another roster.

Trading them for each other (us probably adding, to be honest)

But if I put the names associated, most posters would hate it, especially since we'd have to give the bottom player a large extension.

Is this Marner?

Using this chart for a player who played nowhere near even half of the season is vile work

Are you talking about Quinn?

 

[Jim Bob]

If the Sabres are valuing speed when trying to fill the need in the top 6 forward group, then it would appear that Ehlers and Necas would be targets and not Zegras.

 

[BananaSquad]

This roster keeps getting worse . It’s unbelievable what is going on. Makes no sense at all.

 

[TehDoak]

Using this chart for a player who played nowhere near even half of the season is vile work

His full season one isn’t much better

Is this Marner?

No

Are you talking about Quinn?

Yes the from our team is Quinn.

 

[Jim Bob]

I know there has been some smoke about the Sabres and Flyers talking. So, here are the charts for Farabee and Konecny.

This roster keeps getting worse . It’s unbelievable what is going on. Makes no sense at all.

How does the roster get worse by trading a prospect that likely was going to be in the AHL this year for one of the best PKing forwards in the NHL?

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Sorry but I don't agree with this notion that "they're getting faster so slow player (Greenway) no longer fits". That's not how hockey or any other sport works. If you think he doesn't fit for broader reasons that's another matter but he doesn't need to keep up with McLeod's skating to keep up with the line.

Really. We're talking about a bottom-six line that's supposed to be decent defensively and hopefully add some physicality. Greenway brings both, and is going to be the ONLY physical player on that line, since Benson is small and McLeod plays soft/perimeter in the O-zone. If anything Greenway is a NEED on that line.

 

[jc17]

Is Farabee a fast skater? Honestly don't know....

Krebs and Rosen or (2nd) for Farabee?

Farabee is not fast, frost is


What I'd really like to see is some speed stats for teams/lines/etc to see what the correlation to success is. Obviously systems play a big role. Idk why the NHL edge stuff has to be formatted exclusively in such a way that its a PITA to view info for multiple guys

 

[truthbluth]

Ok Kids, since you'll hate the names associated with my proposal, let me use pictures:

From our roster:

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For

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It's a veteran forward, 27 years old, trading position for position.

Both players need a contract next year.

No I'm not trading Jack Quinn for Travis Konecny.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Yes the from our team is Quinn.

Four of the figures on that chart rely on raw numbers, so it's useless to show Quinn in that context with only 27 games played.

 

[Chainshot]

No I'm not trading Jack Quinn for Travis Konecny.

Yeah, f*** that.