The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[TehDoak]

And remember the only reason we weren’t a bottom 5 team was because our goalie went on a roll for the first time in his life. Is Adams assuming he’ll have that level of goaltending next season too? He shouldn’t be.


You can’t use all $14m unless a decent chunk of that is a one-year deal because many players will need a raise next season, and Skinner’s dead cap will be larger.

You have Quinn and Peterka.

In my 'projection' you have 12 players under contract at 61M, so 31M in cap space. You have Quinn, Peterka, and Levi as RFAs. If you allocate 15M to them combined (bridge deals), that leaves 16M for 6-8 bodies. If you assume 3 of those are ELC graduates, 13M for 3-5 bodies.

So yes, one long term and one short term. The long term body can be sizable, however.

 

[Sabre the Win]

This is absolutely idiotic.. even for Peters who likes to stir the pot of a tortured fanbase .. his whole podcast is to cater to pissed off Sabre fans.

I use to like the guy.. he is a joke now.

His entire basis of his post is off a random caller

Peters is becoming a

Its starting to look like it..

Which one of you are the caller?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

His entire basis of his post is off a random caller

Peters is becoming a


Which one of you are the caller?

I strongly feel that he says stuff like this because he likes playing the heel and wants people to get mad over the team. And he also doesn’t follow the league enough to have anything actually insightful to say most of the time.

I still listen because I love Rivet. Rivet isn’t the smartest hockey mind but he loves the team and follows the league as closely as we do, and brings a lot of experience to the conversation. He’s also a talented broadcaster and is generally an entertaining personality

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

You have Quinn and Peterka.

In my 'projection' you have 12 players under contract at 61M, so 31M in cap space. You have Quinn, Peterka, and Levi as RFAs. If you allocate 15M to them combined (bridge deals), that leaves 16M for 6-8 bodies. If you assume 3 of those are ELC graduates, 13M for 3-5 bodies.

So yes, one long term and one short term. The long term body can be sizable, however.

What do you mean by “short term?” I think it needs to be 2 years to be able to use it all because Tuch needs a big raise soon too, and we’ll have that $6.5 hit for skinner the year after.

He can always trade guys out if he needs to, if he’s able to trade for better players, so I think your way of looking at it is probably best. But if that second deal is longer than 2 years it may force some difficult decisions…but that’s probably a good sign if that happens

 

[5 Minute Major]

Time to move on from Zemgus. 30 years old and misses too much time for my liking. I like the player but he has one 80 game season under his belt and averages missing 14 games a season.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Time to move on from Zemgus. 30 years old and misses too much time for my liking. I like the player but he has one 80 game season under his belt and averages missing 14 games a season.

Depends on what the other options are. If his replacement would be Rousek, I’d rather have Girgs.

 

[TehDoak]

What do you mean by “short term?” I think it needs to be 2 years to be able to use it all because Tuch needs a big raise soon too, and we’ll have that $6.5 hit for skinner the year after.

He can always trade guys out if he needs to, if he’s able to trade for better players, so I think your way of looking at it is probably best. But if that second deal is longer than 2 years it may force some difficult decisions…but that’s probably a good sign if that happens

In an ideal world the short term is 1 year 5-8M and the long term is 6-9M (not going over 14M combined)

If the long term one is 5-6M, you could do a 2 year around 4-5M. I don't think, realistically, you can add more than 10M to the books for 25-26 (assuming you go 3 years for Malenstyn and UPL and no long term deals for other RFAs)

 

[toddkaz]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807192391016939672

 

[sabremike]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807192391016939672

Can someone clarify what he means by "phone caller": Is it someone on a radio/streaming show calling him or does he mean someone "in the know" called him personally?

 

[toddkaz]

Can someone clarify what he means by "phone caller": Is it someone on a radio/streaming show calling him or does he mean someone "in the know" called him personally?

I really don't think Peters knows much but probably knows more than us. That being said the results with Adams for the last 4 years doesn't seem to go against that.

I don't think a lot of players want to waive to come here.

 

[Zman5778]

Can someone clarify what he means by "phone caller": Is it someone on a radio/streaming show calling him or does he mean someone "in the know" called him personally?

I think he's referring to some "source" that he has. A source that is.......dubious at best.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

In an ideal world the short term is 1 year 5-8M and the long term is 6-9M (not going over 14M combined)

If the long term one is 5-6M, you could do a 2 year around 4-5M. I don't think, realistically, you can add more than 10M to the books for 25-26 (assuming you go 3 years for Malenstyn and UPL and no long term deals for other RFAs)

I think you’re basically spot on with those calculations then.

And this is the opposite as I’ve said before but maybe we shouldn’t worry about adding anything big to 25-26 since we could always sell off a Quinn or Peterka at any point and replace them with what will ostensibly be an army of hungry, good winger prospects on the farm.

 

[Ace]

Not sure what most of you guys were expecting by this time of the summer

What were you expecting by this time of year 5?

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807192391016939672

This rings false for me.

 

[Chainshot]

Its starting to look like it..

Peters throwing stones without backing it up with just "someone told me on the phone".

 

[Ace]

I’m sure he’s making shit up but it has crossed my mind several times when he says he is in on everything and talks to everyone that his extreme lack of moves matters. It makes me think of Tim Murray saying that there are some GMs who you know it’s just a waste of time. You have better things to do than go over your rosters with a GM who doesn’t do anything. GMs have five years of talking to Kevyn Adams. Almost all of which was a complete waste of time

 

[Sabre Dance]

I’m sure he’s making shit up but it has crossed my mind several times when he says he is in on everything and talks to everyone that his extreme lack of moves matters. It makes me think of Tim Murray saying that there are some GMs who you know it’s just a waste of time. You have better things to do than go over your rosters with a GM who doesn’t do anything. GMs have five years of talking to Kevyn Adams. Almost all of which was a complete waste of time

Adams values his guys too much, most likely.

I know everyone has someone in fantasy football or whatever league that they hate trying to trade with.

 

[paulmm3]

Yeah teams want to make themselves better, outside of helping a division rival they don't care who their trade partner is. Maybe Adams values his players too highly or has that reputation, but any competent GM is going to pick up the phone and listen to any offer from any other GM to see if they can make their team better.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Peters throwing stones without backing it up with just "someone told me on the phone".

And people will eat up. I just can't get overly emotional this early in the offseason. I save that for the regular season!

 

[sabremike]

Peters throwing stones without backing it up with just "someone told me on the phone".

Even if he's tossing out a porker here I don't think it can be denied that practically nobody in the league has any respect for this organization whatsoever. But putting on my tinfoil hat: wouldn't shock me if the "caller" was someone from or being fed info from one of the organizations that tried unsuccessfully to get a deal with Adams done and they want to put the mouth to him.

 

[Ace]

Well the good news is that Krebs might not end up the 3C after all.

The bad news is that it’s because they need him at second line wing.

 

[Fezzy126]

And people will eat up. I just can't get overly emotional this early in the offseason. I save that for the regular season!

Peters tone has changed a bit over the past year, I think he figured out that when he is more opinionated with some angry takes that his ratings are higher.

When he had a more boring persona he lost his radio spot, lost his job, and his followers were a lot fewer...

 

[DJN21]

Tatar or someone of that ilk will be our top 6 addition, I can just feel it coming....

 

[Beerz]

I think it will be Toffoli ... wildly over paid.

 

[sabremike]

Found a guy who had a worse day than KA:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807230915304697887