Post-Game Talk: The Return of Bozo Funyuns and the Passionless Fruit

[noncents]

an i crazy or did we see lines/pairings change for the better in the 3rd? fox with miller, laf on millers line, etc?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

How come every game the rangers lose I have to hear about how they didn’t want it as much, they didn’t try, they didn’t put in the effort. Maybe all the people who said this team wasn’t that good for years despite all the wins they racked up because of goaltending and special teams were right about something. It’s amazing how the Rangers went from trying to not trying back to trying and are now not trying again. It’s all f***ing bullshit. Also as far as Igor, the league average save percentage is .901, I don’t know what some of you guys expect. It’s not 2012 when .900 meant you were an AHL level goalie. Sure he’s not perfect but the team in front of him f***ing sucks. He shouldn’t have been re-signed but that’s not his fault, it’s the terrible gm’s fault

I love Rangers fans that hate this team doing a victory lap. And yeah, this team sucks this year. And yes Igor is a big reason for it, but so has the rest of the team been. But I love your victory lap that you're doing so you can brag about how you've hated a team that had 107+ points for three straight seasons, including a Presidents' Trophy, and two ECFs. Congratulations, I guess.

 

[Zynbanejad]

I love Rangers fans that hate this team doing a victory lap. And yeah, this team sucks this year. And yes Igor is a big reason for it, but so has the rest of the team been. But I love your victory lap that you're doing so you can brag about how you've hated a team that had 107+ points for three straight seasons, including a Presidents' Trophy, and two ECFs. Congratulations, I guess.

Personally, I’m taking a Mika victory lap around my friends who were mad at me for hating on him the past couple seasons/playoffs

 

[DanielBrassard]

I love Rangers fans that hate this team doing a victory lap. And yeah, this team sucks this year. And yes Igor is a big reason for it, but so has the rest of the team been. But I love your victory lap that you're doing so you can brag about how you've hated a team that had 107+ points for three straight seasons, including a Presidents' Trophy, and two ECFs. Congratulations, I guess.

I don’t hate the team, just the players and the GM.

 

[UnSandvich]

He’s like 3rd or 4th in the league in GSAx, like he is every year

He's 7th, 24th in per 60

I love Rangers fans that hate this team doing a victory lap. And yeah, this team sucks this year. And yes Igor is a big reason for it, but so has the rest of the team been. But I love your victory lap that you're doing so you can brag about how you've hated a team that had 107+ points for three straight seasons, including a Presidents' Trophy, and two ECFs. Congratulations, I guess.

You spent the entirety of last season screaming about how the team wasn't as good as their record, my guy. It got to the point where i'd skip over your posts in PGTs b/c they were always the same. So don't get judgemental about people feeling the similar way this year man

 

[godot]

"this trade will save the team"

 

[will1066]

I love Rangers fans that hate this team doing a victory lap. And yeah, this team sucks this year. And yes Igor is a big reason for it, but so has the rest of the team been. But I love your victory lap that you're doing so you can brag about how you've hated a team that had 107+ points for three straight seasons, including a Presidents' Trophy, and two ECFs. Congratulations, I guess.

I don't understand what you're trying to communicate sometimes.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He's 7th, 24th in per 60



You spent the entirety of last season screaming about how the team wasn't as good as their record, my guy. It got to the point where i'd skip over your posts in PGTs b/c they were always the same. So don't get judgemental about people feeling the similar way this year man

When a team has like 2 months where they're playing like shit and you're pissed in the moment yeah you might be pissed off at them and say that. And not as good as a Presidents' Trophy team is still not "horrible team". If you actually look at them objectively over the course of three seasons, even though they weren't juggernauts they've been a good team. Even if "not as good" or whatever. There's a huge gap between not as good as a Presidents' Trophy and they were a horrible team like some people claim. A HUGE gap.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’ll be honest, my biggest concern right now aside from the LD is Kreider.

He looks awful and has for a while. If his back is truly f***ed, I don’t understand why they aren’t shutting him down for a prolonged period

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I don't understand what you're trying to communicate sometimes.

People waiting until the team is in downturn to brag about how right they were saying that they were a horrible team for three straight years.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

Lavi consistently rewarding poor play with big minutes and power play time. He does not have the set to sit the Vets.

he loses his job if Mika/Kreider/Igor/Fox don't like him. he is coaching to keep his job first and foremost. fire him

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Even if there are an infinite number of universes, with an infinite number of possibilities, I'm sure the Rangers still suck in all of them.

Funny, true and sad.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Lavi needs to go, take his whole staff with him.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Rough one for Adam Fox on that Game Score thing. He looked the part on the ice too.

 

[Uglybstrd]

Loose to Vegas tomorrow and the season will be over. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

 

[Dfence033]

he loses his job if Mika/Kreider/Igor/Fox don't like him. he is coaching to keep his job first and foremost. fire him

Coaching to keep his job implies coaching to win. The Rangers aren’t going to tolerate a coach doing anything but doing what they can to win. And I don’t think this is all coaching.

The roster has fallen apart - we all see it as evidenced by this very thread. Is it Lav? Or have Kreider, Lindgren, Zibanejad, and Shesterkin sucking suddenly revealed the flaws in the team when 2/3 of your presumptive top line, 1/2 of your top D pair, and your highest ever paid 1G all collectively decline into ass at the same time? Because no team in hockey is going to look good in that scenario, and no Mike Keenan-esque coach is going to change a damned thing about it.

I know it’s easier to fire a coach than trade a team, but Drury, for all the vitriol directed at him, has clearly identified the issues with this team - and also believes it’s not one of coaching.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Coaching to keep his job implies coaching to win. The Rangers aren’t going to tolerate a coach doing anything but doing what they can to win. And I don’t think this is all coaching.

The roster has fallen apart - we all see it as evidenced by this very thread. Is it Lav? Or have Kreider, Lindgren, Zibanejad, and Shesterkin sucking suddenly revealed the flaws in the team when 2/3 of your presumptive top line, 1/2 of your top D pair, and your highest ever paid 1G all collectively decline into ass at the same time? Because no team in hockey is going to look good in that scenario, and no Mike Keenan-esque coach is going to change a damned thing about it.

I know it’s easier to fire a coach than trade a team, but Drury, for all the vitriol directed at him, has clearly identified the issues with this team - and also believes it’s not one of coaching.

We should fire Lavi as well. Get rid of who you can, but Lavi hasn't earned it with the horrible season he's had this year. Mika and Kreider falling off the face of the earth should not have resulted in this ridiculous drop in play. He lost the room. And now if you look player by player, this roster is f***ing better than last year's. With honestly the biggest difference being Panarin and his friends. But we don't have a bunch of players Crosby's age. This is on Lavi as much as anyone.

Edit: I should say the biggest difference from the players not mentioned turning into ECHLers. But if Lavi put Mika and Kreider to the third line, it's not any worse than the third line we had last year with a bad 4th line center on it in Bonnino.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

We should fire Lavi as well. Get rid of who you can, but Lavi hasn't earned it with the horrible season he's had this year. Mika and Kreider falling off the face of the earth should not have resulted in this ridiculous drop in play. He lost the room. And now if you look player by player, this roster is f***ing better than last year's. With honestly the biggest difference being Panarin and his friends. But we don't have a bunch of players Crosby's age. This is on Lavi as much as anyone.

There's absolutely no accountability for the vets on this team, they've let the inmates run the asylum, time to change the coach and kick start this group and change the culture here. Paul maclean would be the ideal guy for us, I wonder if he'd come out of retirement.

 

[Dfence033]

We should fire Lavi as well. Get rid of who you can, but Lavi hasn't earned it with the horrible season he's had this year. Mika and Kreider falling off the face of the earth should not have resulted in this ridiculous drop in play. He lost the room. And now if you look player by player, this roster is f***ing better than last year's. With honestly the biggest difference being Panarin and his friends. But we don't have a bunch of players Crosby's age. This is on Lavi as much as anyone.

So the coach is to blame for Kreider, Zibanejad, and Lindgren’s near predictable decline, Panarin deciding he wants to play like it’s the post season for the entire year, and Shesty forgetting his job is to stop the puck, not watch it?

I’m not going to say Lav is the best coach in history. But most of the people on this board have been screaming this was coming for a decade over four coaches. Lav is just the one unfortunate enough to be stuck holding the bag when it finally came true.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Lavi needs to go, take his whole staff with him.

Just like the last three coaches and staffs who failed to motivate and/or get this group to play with even a ounce of sincerity.

 

[Dfence033]

There's absolutely no accountability for the vets on this team, they've let the inmates run the asylum, time to change the coach and kick start this group and change the culture here. Paul maclean would be the ideal guy for us, I wonder if he'd come out of retirement.

How many coaches do you guys need to see have the exact same issues with this roster before you think maybe it’s not all the coaches? Drury seems to think so, or he’d have fired Lav 30 games ago, rather than shipping out malcontents and filling or replacing roster holes (Goodrow, Trouba, Kakko).

 

[SnowblindNYR]

So the coach is to blame for Kreider, Zibanejad, and Lindgren’s near predictable decline, Panarin deciding he wants to play like it’s the post season for the entire year, and Shesty forgetting his job is to stop the puck, not watch it?

I’m not going to say Lav is the best coach in history. But most of the people on this board have been screaming this was coming for a decade over four coaches. Lav is just the one unfortunate enough to be stuck holding the bag when it finally came true.

I feel like coach and goalie are two positions/jobs beyond reproach because if you blame them you can't blame the rest of the roster.

There is NO WAY that even pre-Trouba trade that the locker room should have gone to such shit that they ended up 4-15 in a stretch. And as I said currently how the team is constituted if you put Mika and Kreider on the third line we are almost not worse than the team last year. The Panarin line being the biggest minus. Point is the team declining is one thing, completely self destructing is on the coach.

 

[mrmovies779]

We should fire Lavi as well. Get rid of who you can, but Lavi hasn't earned it with the horrible season he's had this year. Mika and Kreider falling off the face of the earth should not have resulted in this ridiculous drop in play. He lost the room. And now if you look player by player, this roster is f***ing better than last year's. With honestly the biggest difference being Panarin and his friends. But we don't have a bunch of players Crosby's age. This is on Lavi as much as anyone.

Edit: I should say the biggest difference from the players not mentioned turning into ECHLers. But if Lavi put Mika and Kreider to the third line, it's not any worse than the third line we had last year with a bad 4th line center on it in Bonnino.

Theres only so much blame Lav deserves,and he does deserve some....but at some point it's the players who have to look themselves in the mirror and realize this is all on them.Their uninspired,lazy,soft play for nearly 2 months is on every single 1 of them.They made their bed and now they have to lie in it

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Theres only so much blame Lav deserves,and he does deserve some....but at some point it's the players who have to look themselves in the mirror and realize this is all on them.Their uninspired,lazy,soft play for nearly 2 months is on every single 1 of them.They made their bed and now they have to lie in it

I mean either take the @Machinehead approach and hire a trained monkey since no coaches matter anyway or hold the coaches accountable for the collapse of their team. There's never been a team that collapsed and the players were playing well.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

How come every game the rangers lose I have to hear about how they didn’t want it as much, they didn’t try, they didn’t put in the effort. Maybe all the people who said this team wasn’t that good for years despite all the wins they racked up because of goaltending and special teams were right about something. It’s amazing how the Rangers went from trying to not trying back to trying and are now not trying again. It’s all f***ing bullshit. Also as far as Igor, the league average save percentage is .901, I don’t know what some of you guys expect. It’s not 2012 when .900 meant you were an AHL level goalie. Sure he’s not perfect but the team in front of him f***ing sucks. He shouldn’t have been re-signed but that’s not his fault, it’s the terrible gm’s fault

Igor should have stats among the top of the league. I don’t care what the number is but relative to his peers he should be among the best based on how he’s paid and he’s not even close.