Confirmed with Link: The Red Wings have signed center Emmitt Finnie to a three-year, entry-level contract beginning with the 2024-25 season

[Indrid Cold]

Benson is a nice player, but he's likely to struggle at playoff style hockey, where Danielson is built for it. Wings already have an undersized scorer in Cat, don't need another one. Just because he is putting up numbers on another team doesn't mean he's a fit for ours's.

 

[TCNorthstars]

I don't know what kinda cars you are talking about but you can buy brand new decent car under 40k

I know this is getting side tracked, but that 70k signing bonus turns into less than 35k after agent fees and taxes. He shouldn't be shooting that whole wad on a car.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

My question is what was the urgency of signing him now? We have him under control for years?

 

[jaster]

My question is what was the urgency of signing him now? We have him under control for years?

Presumably because they see he's ready for pro games, want to give him that exposure, and this way they can put him on an ATO with the Griffins.

I imagine he goes back to the WHL next season (hopefully with a better team eventually), and when his season is over there he gets assigned to GR and never looks back.

 

[DamonDRW]

I know this is getting side tracked, but that 70k signing bonus turns into less than 35k after agent fees and taxes. He shouldn't be shooting that whole wad on a car.

But he will do because he s young American human being

 

[Realgud]

These Benson takes are brutal. If he was on the Red Wings, he'd be our best defensive player. Comparing him to Debrincat and Ennis is unreal. Completely different types of players.

You can be happy about Danielson and Finnie without having to straight up lie about another player to bring them down.

 

[dj4aces]

I like the pick and the signing, but I've always been a big fan of the underdogs. You know, those late draft picks that are unlikely to become a pro hockey player. The ELC is a nod in his direction and a vote of confidence from Stevie that he'll become exactly the kind of player we need, and I'm here for it.

 

[Ezekial]

These Benson takes are brutal. If he was on the Red Wings, he'd be our best defensive player. Comparing him to Debrincat and Ennis is unreal. Completely different types of players.

You can be happy about Danielson and Finnie without having to straight up lie about another player to bring them down.

The post that brought Benson into this conversation solely did it to straight up lie about Danielson to bring him down.

 

[Ezekial]

I like the pick and the signing, but I've always been a big fan of the underdogs. You know, those late draft picks that are unlikely to become a pro hockey player. The ELC is a nod in his direction and a vote of confidence from Stevie that he'll become exactly the kind of player we need, and I'm here for it.

He's 10 months younger than Danielson, which means he is 2 months older than Danielson was at this point in his 2023 WHL season where he put up 78 in 68. Seeming like he could develop into a real NHLer.

 

[Gniwder]

Have you seen what new cars cost these days? Or how much bonuses are taxed? Or did you mean new to him? Who knows, maybe he would enjoy driving a Chevy Traxx.

New to him then, lol. AWD trailblazer runs about $30k plus taxes though. Keep in mind he also gets the $82.5k salary regardless of which league he plays, starting next season. (Yeah, I get that salary doesn't go far nowadays, they probably ought to raise that for the kids in the next CBA.)

I have no idea how the tax system works in Canada, but in the US signing bonuses are taxed the same as regular income, and the employer usually withholds taxes for you. That's been the case all 3 times for me, and I haven't been audited yet. It can put you in a higher tax bracket, and you pay that rate.

 

[Konnan511]

New to him then, lol. AWD trailblazer runs about $30k plus taxes though. Keep in mind he also gets the $82.5k salary regardless of which league he plays, starting next season. (Yeah, I get that salary doesn't go far nowadays, they probably ought to raise that for the kids in the next CBA.)

I have no idea how the tax system works in Canada, but in the US signing bonuses are taxed the same as regular income, and the employer usually withholds taxes for you. That's been the case all 3 times for me, and I haven't been audited yet. It can put you in a higher tax bracket, and you pay that rate.

Only on the amount in the new tax bracket. Your whole salary isn't taxed higher. An absurd amount of people don't know this.

 

[Detroit Knights]

These Benson takes are brutal. If he was on the Red Wings, he'd be our best defensive player. Comparing him to Debrincat and Ennis is unreal. Completely different types of players.

You can be happy about Danielson and Finnie without having to straight up lie about another player to bring them down.

he wouldn't even be in the nhl so this makes no sense regardless

edit: or are you saying he would be our best defensive player because he would have zero (0) goals against because of 0:00 TOI?

 

[Ezekial]

Only on the amount in the new tax bracket. Your whole salary isn't taxed higher. An absurd amount of people don't know this.

Idk what they teach in high schools nowadays but i spent 4 years in various world/us history classes and 0 time learning how I will be taxed the rest of my life.

It's actually a shame what we have decided what is important for kids to know. Don't even need to spend a lot of time on things like that.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

These Benson takes are brutal. If he was on the Red Wings, he'd be our best defensive player. Comparing him to Debrincat and Ennis is unreal. Completely different types of players.

You can be happy about Danielson and Finnie without having to straight up lie about another player to bring them down.

Our best defensive player as a forward at 18 and we have the balls to think we will make the playoffs lol!

 

[Konnan511]

Idk what they teach in high schools nowadays but i spent 4 years in various world/us history classes and 0 time learning how I will be taxed the rest of my life.

It's actually a shame what we have decided what is important for kids to know. Don't even need to spend a lot of time on things like that.

Agreed. If you have paychecks with taxes being taken out...you should spend an hour learning about taxes, the bare minimum.

I bet Emmitt Finnie is about to learn about Progressive Taxes.

 

[Realgud]

Our best defensive player as a forward at 18 and we have the balls to think we will make the playoffs lol!

Might be a slight exaggeration but I know Sabres fan seem to think he's one of their best defensive player almost every game. He has been on their 2nd or 3rd line for most of the season despite not having the best offensive numbers because he is just that good defensively at 18 years old. Very admirable player with many flashes of elite talent. I do agree with the size + speed concerns when it comes to his game but I think he'll overcome those very easily becuase of his intelligence. But I can see why the wings prefer to go a different route with players like Danielson who are also mature, responsible and good defensively but also play center with faster skating and better size to go along with it. Oh and probably a better wrist shot too. All in all, the 2023 draft was insane imo and so many players will end up being great nhlers and that includes both Benson and Danielson.

Finnie also fits what the wings are looking for, tools-wise. I'm happy for him and hope he succeeds!

 

[izlez]

I think a lot of people here are sleeping on this kid. He's gonna be Mazur but with the ability to gain weight.

Now THIS is the best "Helm with hands" type comparison I have seen in a while

 

[jaster]

Helm with hands.

Mazur with protein.

 

[SantosHalper]

Fun fact:
After the draft Draper said that it was Greg Hawgood who "found" Finnie. Draper said that Hawgood lives in Kamloops and saw Finnie play many times.

 

[Run the Jewels]

I don't know what kinda cars you are talking about but you can buy brand new decent car under 40k

You can buy a Fisker electric car for $25,000 but the company probably isn't going to be around much longer.

Fun fact:
After the draft Draper said that it was Greg Hawgood who "found" Finnie. Draper said that Hawgood lives in Kamloops and saw Finnie play many times.

Wooohooo our Kamloops scouting operation finally pays off!

 

[lilidk]

You can buy a Fisker electric car for $25,000 but the company probably isn't going to be around much longer.


Wooohooo our Kamloops scouting operation finally pays off!

Rav4 SE or XLE is 35-38, will last you for very long time

 

[TCNorthstars]

New to him then, lol. AWD trailblazer runs about $30k plus taxes though. Keep in mind he also gets the $82.5k salary regardless of which league he plays, starting next season. (Yeah, I get that salary doesn't go far nowadays, they probably ought to raise that for the kids in the next CBA.)

I have no idea how the tax system works in Canada, but in the US signing bonuses are taxed the same as regular income, and the employer usually withholds taxes for you. That's been the case all 3 times for me, and I haven't been audited yet. It can put you in a higher tax bracket, and you pay that rate.

Actually, in the US, bonuses are considered supplemental income and typically withheld at a higher rate than your regular pay. It offsets at tax time though.

 

[Frk It]

MOD's please update the thread title to -- SUV's, taxes, and Zach Benson.

 

[Gniwder]

Actually, in the US, bonuses are considered supplemental income and typically withheld at a higher rate than your regular pay. It offsets at tax time though.

I just looked it up, supplemental income withholding rate is currently only 22%, which is lower than the tax bracket I'm in. The company paid for my relocation as well so my tax return was pretty messed up, lol.

22% tax bracket is $45k - 95k, so probably wouldn't make much difference to Finnie either, except he'll get a bigger return.

 

[Gniwder]

MOD's please update the thread title to -- SUV's, taxes, and Zach Benson.

I'm sure Zach can afford a better SUV with his NHL salary.