The Rebuild Started...
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krutovsdonut
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What rebuild? Having 6 picks in a draft and filling the team with overpaid vets isn't rebuilding.
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Frankie Blueberries
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The rebuild started with Gillis in 2013 with Schneider for Horvat and Gillis trying to negotiate a deal with Kesler but being stubborn on the return.
The rebuild was halted until very recently. This was first evidenced by the Miller, Vrbata, Bonino, Vey, Clendening, Sutter, Gudbranson, etc. acquisitions and giving up more draft picks and prospects than we received.
The only aspects of a rebuild from the Benning era is unintentionally finishing bottom of the league while spending to the cap and receiving high picks as a result, as well as the Burrows/Hansen trades (but they weren't going to help us compete at this juncture anyways, so trading them was common sense).
If we were truly rebuilding, we would have acquired more draft picks/prospects and held on to players like Forsling and McCann.
I still don't think we are 'rebuilding' as Benning has consistently maintained that they want to compete every season and still gives up draft picks in trades (Pouliot) and competes in meaningless games where we win and it costs us Zadina.
The rebuild was halted until very recently. This was first evidenced by the Miller, Vrbata, Bonino, Vey, Clendening, Sutter, Gudbranson, etc. acquisitions and giving up more draft picks and prospects than we received.
The only aspects of a rebuild from the Benning era is unintentionally finishing bottom of the league while spending to the cap and receiving high picks as a result, as well as the Burrows/Hansen trades (but they weren't going to help us compete at this juncture anyways, so trading them was common sense).
If we were truly rebuilding, we would have acquired more draft picks/prospects and held on to players like Forsling and McCann.
I still don't think we are 'rebuilding' as Benning has consistently maintained that they want to compete every season and still gives up draft picks in trades (Pouliot) and competes in meaningless games where we win and it costs us Zadina.
will be interesting to see if the Canucks can manipulate the results like they do with other online polls.
There was a good quote (I think by B. Burke) that essentially claimed that you need to be rising quickly, or falling quickly in the NHL cap era at all times if you're going for a cup. This makes sense to everyone, except Aquilini of course
It is just semantics for the most part but, you could say the rebuild started in 2012 or you could say there was a super long and easily predictable decline that was handled exactly like all the armchair fans didn't want it to be handled for the last 6 years (or for those that really loved the Sedins and were delusional 4 years) ... and then the rebuild started this season
What difference does it make?
Who knows what labels Linden and Aquilini use .....
It is just semantics for the most part but, you could say the rebuild started in 2012 or you could say there was a super long and easily predictable decline that was handled exactly like all the armchair fans didn't want it to be handled for the last 6 years (or for those that really loved the Sedins and were delusional 4 years) ... and then the rebuild started this season
What difference does it make?
Who knows what labels Linden and Aquilini use .....
Johnny Canucker
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If we didn’t miss on the Virtanen and Juolevi picks we would be more on track.
Getting no picks for Hamhuis / Vrbata / Vanek set us back huge as well.
Getting no picks for Hamhuis / Vrbata / Vanek set us back huge as well.
Johnny Canucker
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JB has an inability to acquire draft picks. Rangers rebuilt in 1 year. 3 first round picks is how you do it.
Maybe Aquilini truly thought we were "going for it" the last 4 years, and Benning is a genius has been purposefully sabotaging things with his trades and signings and trying to disguise the rebuild? If one had to operate under the parameters of "going for it" but knowing full well a rebuild was in the best instrest, the current GM could be seen as a hero.... that would be quite something
The votes are public, so they could be cross referenced to see if there are a bunch of join dates in the last few days.
Naw this franchise stays away from Russians for the most part.
Benning will start just as soon as he finishes cleaning up this huge mess Gillis left. Thanks Gillis! 
Benning set this franchise back 10 years, that is not a disguised rebuild. Please never refer to him as a genius or hero again...
There is no excuse for throwing away countless players/picks/prospects for crap, then greatly overpaying that crap, and letting good quality players walk for nothing just to replace them with more overpaid crap.
Benning set this franchise back 10 years, that is not a disguised rebuild. Please never refer to him as a genius or hero again...
There is no excuse for throwing away countless players/picks/prospects for crap, then greatly overpaying that crap, and letting good quality players walk for nothing just to replace them with more overpaid crap.
I was cleaning out the closet this past weekend and found my old playoff towels from 2010/11. I silently wept. I know not when I will wave those again.
pgj98m3
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You do realize it is 2018 don't you?????????Benning will start just as soon as he finishes cleaning up this huge mess Gillis left. Thanks Gillis!
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He even put the sarcasm emote and everything...
pgj98m3
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DL44
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After the 2011 run...
It was the beginning of our 12 yr rebuild towards our next cup run in 2023.
It was the beginning of our 12 yr rebuild towards our next cup run in 2023.
xtra
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We just signed 2 guys aged 32 and 28 for culture to our team,
We have 3 guys who last year combined for 22 goals at the average age of 30 tied up for the next 4years at a cap hit of over 12 million dollars.
Please tell me how any of that is considered part of a rebuild.
We have 3 guys who last year combined for 22 goals at the average age of 30 tied up for the next 4years at a cap hit of over 12 million dollars.
Please tell me how any of that is considered part of a rebuild.
If at all, the rebuild started when we traded Burrows and Hansen, got Dahlen, and drafted EP.
But it's probably true that a real rebuild has not yet started. We should be aggressively acquiring draft picks and prospects rather than signing vets to lengthy contracts.
But it's probably true that a real rebuild has not yet started. We should be aggressively acquiring draft picks and prospects rather than signing vets to lengthy contracts.
Wayward Son
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2013 is the obvious answer. Traded NHL players (Schneider) for futures (9th overall pick). Again the next year with Kesler for 24th OV. Just because we have done a very very (very very very) poor job of rebuilding, doesn't mean it hasn't started since we began trading roster players for draft picks. Our one anomaly season where we made the playoffs and got a late pick we ended up with Boeser, so that helped our rebuild the most! lol
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