Speculation: The price to move the 3rd overall to the Islanders ?

[dj Mahoney]

Since the Islanders would love to walk away from the draft with both Schafer and Hagens what would Davidson want from the Islander's ? I'm guessing the starting point is an unprotected 1st rder for 2026 plus , plus . Another lottery ticket for McKenna has to be intriguing for Davidson .

 

[Hawkaholic]

Since the Islanders would love to walk away from the draft with both Schafer and Hagens what would Davidson want from the Islander's ? I'm guessing the starting point is an unprotected 1st rder for 2026 plus , plus .

Dobson is the only one worthwhile that's on the roster.

 

[Kevin Musto]

2026 unprotected 1st + Holmstrom + the rights to Bednarik

 

[dj Mahoney]

2026 unprotected 1st ,+ the rights to Bednarik , 2026 2nd rder , 2028 2nd rder , would be a nice haul . Blackhawks already aquired 2027 Islander's 2nd rder .

 

[BHFAN92]

Since the Islanders would love to walk away from the draft with both Schafer and Hagens what would Davidson want from the Islander's ? I'm guessing the starting point is an unprotected 1st rder for 2026 plus , plus . Another lottery ticket for McKenna has to be intriguing for Davidson .

ya this is a non starter deal. If the trade is swap of picks we can talk but you cant boot a yr of the rebuild with Bedard already getting anxious

 

[Deputy McRizzy]

How do we get Barzal out of NY? I'd love to have him.

 

[Muffinalt]

How do we get Barzal out of NY? I'd love to have him.

3OA for Barzal + Holmstrom?

Maybes that's too much from Isles.

Barzal + what?

 

[Kevin Musto]

3OA for Barzal + Holmstrom?

Maybes that's too much from Isles.

Barzal + what?

To Chicago:

-Mathew Barzal
-the rights to Danny Nelson

To NYI:

-3rd Overall

 

[x Tame Impala]

Unless we're moving #3 for #1 I'd rather just keep the pick. I think it's a terrible idea to trade it for a Barzal/EP40/B. Tkachuk type. Make the draft selection and keep moving along with the rebuild.



Schaefer


Hagens
2025 TOR 1st
2026 FLA 1st

 

[Muffinalt]

To Chicago:

-Mathew Barzal
-the rights to Danny Nelson

To NYI:

-3rd Overall

Sold.

Actually the more I think about it, this is a really good trade.

Martone, Hagens, Eklund, Desnoyers, Frondell... They all have question marks and don't fit the style that KD/D is going for (Eklund and Hagens do but they will need 3-4 years of physical development).

Barzal is ready, and Bedard is actually the exact type of player he needs. It would be like drafting Misa lol, but in his prime already.

We would add a high level player who fits our style really well, a top line player that helps Bedard right now and going forward.

Islanders can start a small rebuild/retool with Schaefer and local boy Hagens. Can't imagine they see a lot avenues to win anything significant with their current core and Barzal. New management can start a new direction extremely well.

Win-win. I love it.

 

[Muffinalt]

Unless we're moving #3 for #1 I'd rather just keep the pick. I think it's a terrible idea to trade it for a Barzal/EP40/B. Tkachuk type. Make the draft selection and keep moving along with the rebuild.



Schaefer


Hagens
2025 TOR 1st
2026 FLA 1st

Why so you think it's a terrible idea? EP40 I agree, but the other two would be really good adds imo. Realistically our 3OA pick this year is looking at that kind of ceiling as a player but with quite a bit of uncertainty.

Theyre also not old yet to be out of the timeline entirely.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Nothing realistic and I honestly think it would put both teams into the dreaded good but not great space.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Personally speaking I just want to stay at 3 and pick Martone.

One year in college, and he can potentially join the Hawks in 2026 for the last couple games of the season.

But since it's the offseason and there's little to talk about, it's fun to speculate about moving the pick in different scenarios.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Why so you think it's a terrible idea? EP40 I agree, but the other two would be really good adds imo. Realistically our 3OA pick this year is looking at that kind of ceiling as a player but with quite a bit of uncertainty.

Theyre also not old yet to be out of the timeline entirely.

I don't think Barzal at 28 is a timeline fit. It's one thing to sign a 28 year old Marner UFA but it's another thing to trade away 10-15 years of player control for a guy likely to be on the decline when we're contending. Tkachuk is likely not available. EP40 I want absolutely nowhere near this team. Terrible attitude and is way too expensive.

 

[Muffinalt]

I don't think Barzal at 28 is a timeline fit. It's one thing to sign a 28 year old Marner UFA but it's another thing to trade away 10-15 years of player control for a guy likely to be on the decline when we're contending. Tkachuk is likely not available. EP40 I want absolutely nowhere near this team. Terrible attitude and is way too expensive.

To be fair I though Barzal is 27 but I see he has a late May birthday, unfortunate.

I think one player of that age group is fine still, we should be looking to make deeper runs in 2-3 years max. Bedard could use a partner too. For me it's more that I think Barzal is going to be a better and more fitting player to our style than the one we can acquire at 3.

But yeah agree about the other two.

 

[kmwtrucks]

Unless we're moving #3 for #1 I'd rather just keep the pick. I think it's a terrible idea to trade it for a Barzal/EP40/B. Tkachuk type. Make the draft selection and keep moving along with the rebuild.



Schaefer


Hagens
2025 TOR 1st
2026 FLA 1st

the issue is giving up 2 firsts when we are over loaded with LD, Vlasic, Korch, del mastro kaiser, allen, harding,

i think SJ give up a late first and early second to swap.

 

[BHFAN92]

Sold.

Actually the more I think about it, this is a really good trade.

Martone, Hagens, Eklund, Desnoyers, Frondell... They all have question marks and don't fit the style that KD/D is going for (Eklund and Hagens do but they will need 3-4 years of physical development).

Barzal is ready, and Bedard is actually the exact type of player he needs. It would be like drafting Misa lol, but in his prime already.

We would add a high level player who fits our style really well, a top line player that helps Bedard right now and going forward.

Islanders can start a small rebuild/retool with Schaefer and local boy Hagens. Can't imagine they see a lot avenues to win anything significant with their current core and Barzal. New management can start a new direction extremely well.

Win-win. I love it.

Barzal due to age, contract, injury history is worth maybe Toronto 1st and maybe a 2nd...not #3ova

 

[u2wojo]

I just don't see a trade with the Isles where it doesn't involve a swap of the 1st. Next years Isles 1st even unprotected is not likely to be in the top 5 barring another lightning strike random luck. They are more likely to catch the Rags and Columbus (playing in argueably the worst division in NHL) and have a chance at the playoffs as they are to miss and win the lottery.

Ritchie and the Avs 1st (but they have the option to defer to '27) are interesting pieces. I guess if you absolutely love the '26 draft and are indifferent to the anticipated choices at #3 you could probably cobble together something.

#3OA for '26 1st + Ritchie +'26 (or '27) Colorado 1st As crazy as that looks, you probably are trading #3OA for 2 late 1st and something in the teens ('26 Isles pick) which probably isn't enough.

 

[Putt Pirate]

What if the Hawks wanted to move to 1st overall for Misa and the Isle move to 3rd for Hagens? What would we give up for that? That seems more realistic to me.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Stay at 3OA. Any excess assets potentially used in a trade up should go towards acquiring Bedard linemates this year.

Rolling with Donato and Mikheyev or the likes is not acceptable.

 

[u2wojo]

What if the Hawks wanted to move to 1st overall for Misa and the Isle move to 3rd for Hagens? What would we give up for that? That seems more realistic to me.

Seems like a 3 way deal there including San Jose paying a small sweetner too would make sense (again if the Isles are dumb enough to be willing to bypass 2 significantly superior players). If the Isles like Hagens THAT much, it is pretty apparent the best outcome for the Hawks is Misa and for San Jose is Schaefer.

Hawks get 2OA for 3OA and Hawks 2nd
San Jose gets 1OA for 3OA Hawks 2nd and San Jose 2nd
Isles get 3OA Hawks and San Jose 2nd

You could probably replace the Hawk/San Jose 2nds with the Dallas 1st and Toronto 1st so the new Isles Gm can sell they traded the #1OA for Hagens and 2 1st as both San Jose and the Hawks are at the point of needing more quality than quantity.

 

[unbridledid]

Personally speaking I just want to stay at 3 and pick Martone.

One year in college, and he can potentially join the Hawks in 2026 for the last couple games of the season.

But since it's the offseason and there's little to talk about, it's fun to speculate about moving the pick in different scenarios.

I like your thinking.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Seems like a 3 way deal there including San Jose paying a small sweetner too would make sense (again if the Isles are dumb enough to be willing to bypass 2 significantly superior players). If the Isles like Hagens THAT much, it is pretty apparent the best outcome for the Hawks is Misa and for San Jose is Schaefer.

Hawks get 2OA for 3OA and Hawks 2nd
San Jose gets 1OA for 3OA Hawks 2nd and San Jose 2nd
Isles get 3OA Hawks and San Jose 2nd

You could probably replace the Hawk/San Jose 2nds with the Dallas 1st and Toronto 1st so the new Isles Gm can sell they traded the #1OA for Hagens and 2 1st as both San Jose and the Hawks are at the point of needing more quality than quantity.

Kyle, Mike, and Islanders management should all go out for lunch and shake hands on who they want to take

 

[u2wojo]

Kyle, Mike, and Islanders management should all go out for lunch and shake hands on who they want to take

Or you can do what the NBA has done for years....pick the players and then trade them and they can swap hats, jersey/name plates right on the draft floor.

 

[x Tame Impala]

the issue is giving up 2 firsts when we are over loaded with LD, Vlasic, Korch, del mastro kaiser, allen, harding,

i think SJ give up a late first and early second to swap.

We’re not overloaded anywhere on our roster. Vlassic is the only one proven to handle regular top 4/top pairing minutes at the NHL level. The rest of those guys are either not established yet or haven’t proven consistency as a pro. Certainly not to the degree I’d balk at drafting a LD 1st OVR.

Our rebuild is looking good, lots of momentum carrying into next year, but we still SUCK. There’s a long way to go and we need elite talent anywhere and everywhere on the roster.