Louie the Blue
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I remember when they went on a 6 game losing streak prior to playing Chicago in the first round in 2014 after a dominant regular season.
Just need to win 1 of 2.
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Just need to win 1 of 2.
Snubbed4Vezina
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I wouldn't be so sure. I wouldn't be surprised to see Calgary win out. Vegas and LA might not have anything to play for in the Flames final two games and they're not losing to the Sharks.
I think Minnesota wins at least 1 of their next two games, I lean towards a loss tonight on zero rest with a win against the Ducks.
I think the Blues need to win two. If they win just one, that point we didn't get against the Oilers is going to be the reason we miss the playoffs.
CGY 96
MIN 95
STL 95
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Agreed. VGK also has players “injured” right now and they are locked into their spot. Eichel, Petro, Olofsson, Hague are all out and probably won’t play play in their final couple games. They beat a bad Seattle team 2-1 and certainly won’t be going all out to do Minny or the Blues any favors. LA also locked into their spot and will likely rest quite a few regulars their last game as well. Would not surprise me if Calgary wins out. And yes, that last minute goal to the Oilers looms large right now.
Louie the Blue
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Kings still have something to play for as they could lose home ice to Edmonton if they aren’t careful.
In doomsday scenario of a three way tie, if Calgary reaches 96 with 3 wins in regulation, Minnesota hits 96 with a win in regulation and an OT point, and Blues win in OT or shootout and get an OT point, the Blues miss.
However, that still involves a lot going Calgary’s way. Not even in that scenario, they at worst still have to bank on getting 4 out of 6 points as is to even pass Minnesota or St. Louis and for one team to get 0 of 4 points.
I’m not saying the Blues clinch if they win 1 of 2, but they’re in a good spot. If they miss because they can’t win in regulation against Seattle or Utah, they don’t deserve to be in.
I didn't expect them to be in a month and a half ago anyways, don't see a reason for me to panic. We make it, cool, we don't make it, the pick has a little more value to trade.
I have faith in us beating Seattle. The Utah game is what worries me. We play our worst hockey against them, going back to when they were in Arizona. It's almost always a frustrating game when we play them. If we lose to Seattle tonight in regulation, I start getting pretty nervous. If we lose both games, I'd almost rather not make the playoffs because, like others have said, we don't deserve to be there.
Snubbed4Vezina
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Good point. I wasn't thinking about the Kings falling but that's a definite possibility especially if they lose to Edmonton on Monday.
Louie the Blue
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Agreed.
If they lose tonight in regulation, missing the POs becomes a very real possibility. I’m penciling Calgary getting a guaranteed 2 points vs SJ.
It’s after that I think they lose at least one of Vegas or LA. Which if that happens, and they lose in regulation, they tie with the Blues at 94 points and lose the second and third breaker to the Blues.
93 points is playing with fire, 94 makes things still uncomfortable, 95 should be the the target and be OK.
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unfortunately the Sharks used their high scoring luck in their 8-7 OT loss to Minnesota the other night.
Would be nice to see them tap into that offense again today. But as you said I think we can count on Calgary getting points tonight, it really all hinges on their next 2 vs VGK and LA
| Team | Magic Number to clinch Playoffs | Current Points | Games Remaining | Possible Points | RW | ROW |
| Wild | 1 | 95 | 1 | 97 | 33 | 41 |
| Blues | 3 (maybe 2) | 94 | 1 | 96 | 31 | 39 |
| Flames | . | 90 | 3 | 96 | 29 | 34 |
4/13 - Sharks @ Flames
4/14 - no games
4/15 - Utah @ St Louis, Ducks @ Wild, Golden Knights @ Flames
4/16 - no games
4/17 - Flames @ Kings
Of the Flames fail to win in regulation once, or if the Blues win in regulation, the magic number between them is 2. In other words, if the Blues beat Utah in regulation they are in and Calgary’s results are irrelevant.
The Ducks would have to beat the Wild to open that door. They just beat Calgary, so stranger things are possible.
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AjaxManifesto
Pro sports is becoming predictable and boring
At this point is there anything good about this team that merits a playoff spot?
The D is shoddy
The O is anemic
And the G is not making game winning saves
The way they have handled themselves these last 3 games is almost embarrassing. How do you come out flat against the Kraken for 2 periods? How? When everything is on the line. 18, 25, and 89 were terrible tonight. Non-factors.
This may help the youngsters next year. Let this lesson sear into their young brains.
On the flip side, I really like our youngsters. I think Snuggy, Bolduc, Holloway, Neighbors, and Broberg will do very well under Monty.
The D is shoddy
The O is anemic
And the G is not making game winning saves
The way they have handled themselves these last 3 games is almost embarrassing. How do you come out flat against the Kraken for 2 periods? How? When everything is on the line. 18, 25, and 89 were terrible tonight. Non-factors.
This may help the youngsters next year. Let this lesson sear into their young brains.
On the flip side, I really like our youngsters. I think Snuggy, Bolduc, Holloway, Neighbors, and Broberg will do very well under Monty.
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Feeling better after the point in Seattle.
Win on Tuesday, finish the season 13-2-1.
They can do this.
Win on Tuesday, finish the season 13-2-1.
They can do this.
Banked points are waaaay more valuable than potential points. Blues should be fine and likely already have the points they need to clinch the WC2. The Blues have just lost three games in a row that they really wanted more than one combined point. Yet somehow, an inferior Flames squad, running on fumes and having three games in five days is going to win out? Unlikely.
Even if Calgary had crazy high odds of winning each game, say 60% in each match-up (which they don’t) the chances of them getting three straight wins is less than 22%. And even if they pulled that off, they’d still need the Blues to choke on home ice in their must-win game being favored over Utah. Even giving the sliding Blues a mere 40% chance of banking two points at home results in a 13% chance of Calgary having all conditions fulfilled to steal the last playoff spot.
Now, of course, 13% is greater than 0%, so it is a possibility of happening…but it’s about a one-in-eight shot Calgary’s going to pull that off…while STL has a 7-in-8 likelihood of clinching. If I were Stillman, I’d feel pretty happy with that and comfortable printing playoff tickets at this point.
Even if Calgary had crazy high odds of winning each game, say 60% in each match-up (which they don’t) the chances of them getting three straight wins is less than 22%. And even if they pulled that off, they’d still need the Blues to choke on home ice in their must-win game being favored over Utah. Even giving the sliding Blues a mere 40% chance of banking two points at home results in a 13% chance of Calgary having all conditions fulfilled to steal the last playoff spot.
Now, of course, 13% is greater than 0%, so it is a possibility of happening…but it’s about a one-in-eight shot Calgary’s going to pull that off…while STL has a 7-in-8 likelihood of clinching. If I were Stillman, I’d feel pretty happy with that and comfortable printing playoff tickets at this point.
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Hofer
5-1-0, 1.83 GAA, .921 SV% last 30 days
(16-8-3, 2.64 GAA, .904 SV% on season)
Binner
7-2-1, 2.19 GAA, .913 SV% last 30 days
(27-22-5, 2.72 GAA, .900 SV% on season)
It will be interesting to see who Monty goes with. I believe it's Hofer's start based on the rotation, but do you throw all that out with the season on the line.
5-1-0, 1.83 GAA, .921 SV% last 30 days
(16-8-3, 2.64 GAA, .904 SV% on season)
Binner
7-2-1, 2.19 GAA, .913 SV% last 30 days
(27-22-5, 2.72 GAA, .900 SV% on season)
It will be interesting to see who Monty goes with. I believe it's Hofer's start based on the rotation, but do you throw all that out with the season on the line.
Louie the Blue
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They lost 3 games. Two of which were to PO teams with Parayko and Holloway missing two of those games. Broberg missed last night.
I don’t think last night’s effort to begin the game was acceptable, but doomsday isn’t here yet. Now, if they miss this year and next the tone is different.
execwrite1
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Exactly. Next year is when they have to deliver. This year is a bonus, and making the playoffs is very important for the ownership balance sheet and to provide experience for the young players.
But the prize is 2025-26 and the years after that. The quest for the Cup (#2) begins then.
Louie the Blue
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Precisely. Making the POs this year would be a bonus but it isn’t necessary for how the FO set up the rebuild.
If the flames win all 3 in regulation, the blues would need to win their game in regulation to have tiebreak over calgary and would lose out with an overtime or shkotout win, unless calgary didnt win all games in regulation.
AjaxManifesto
Pro sports is becoming predictable and boring
If they do that, then they deserve it.
All I know is that we have trouble playing against Utah for some reason and our quality of play has gone downhill.
I hope they prove me wrong and come out with a dominant performance.
Louie the Blue
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In the event Calgary ties Minnesota and the Blues with 96, Minnesota is in no matter what.
Calgary would get in if they won all 3 in regulation AND the Blues beat Utah in a SO or OT.
If Calgary won all 3, but at least one was in a SO or OT, they’d lose the wins in regulation tiebreaker to the Blues and Minnesota and the Blues would be the WCs.
Minnesota is almost in barring them losing in regulation to Anaheim, Calgary winning out, and the Blues beating Utah.
I'll take uhhhhh, Minnesota losing in regulation....and can I get a side of Blues over Utah? Would you like that in regulation or in overtime, sir? Uhhhh, I'll take it in regulation just to be safe. Got it. Anything else for you, sir? Oh yeah, and **** Nazem Kadri.
Bring on Vegas in round 1. I prefer them over the Jets, and if we manage to beat them, I like the potential round 2 matchups in the Pacific more than the Central. Edmonton is already depleted, and I view LA as the weakest team that's in a division spot when healthy. Let Dallas and Colorado beat each other up, and then let whoever wins that and Winnipeg beat each other up in round 2. It would also mean some fresh matchups for us. We've never played the Knights or the Oilers in a playoff series, and if it's LA, well we can get some revenge for the early 2010s.
Bring on Vegas in round 1. I prefer them over the Jets, and if we manage to beat them, I like the potential round 2 matchups in the Pacific more than the Central. Edmonton is already depleted, and I view LA as the weakest team that's in a division spot when healthy. Let Dallas and Colorado beat each other up, and then let whoever wins that and Winnipeg beat each other up in round 2. It would also mean some fresh matchups for us. We've never played the Knights or the Oilers in a playoff series, and if it's LA, well we can get some revenge for the early 2010s.
The only way a tie with Calgary goes their way is if they win all 3 in regulation and the Blues win in OT. Otherwise the Blues have the tiebreaker. If the Blues win in regulation it’s impossible for Calgary to win the tiebreaker, and they’d just be hoping Minnesota loses.
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